Well, this was a good deal. Still doesn't make up for taking a friggin punter in the high 4th round.....................https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/125142-49ers-trade-dekoda-watson-sixth-round-broncos-fifth-round-nfl/
49ers trading LB Dekoda Watson and a sixth-round pick (No. 212) to the Broncos for a fifth-round pick (No. 148)
Bosa can have No 97 now
Right when they announced the Punter pick I wondered if they were working on a deal to move into the 5th.Well, this was a great deal. Still doesn't make up for taking a friggin punter in the high 4th round.....................
They have 3 6th round picks. Perfect place to take a punter. If he's gone, not a global killer. I just don't get the thought process.Right when they announced the Punter pick I wondered if they were working on a deal to move into the 5th.
Well it seems Wishnowsky was the highest rated punter in the draft, and now they have a 5th round pick. I think at the least they shoulda/coulda used the 4th rounder on a OL/CB/S, and took the punter in the 5th.They have 3 6th round picks. Perfect place to take a punter. If he's gone, not a global killer. I just don't get the thought process.
I am really trying hard to get behind Lynch. Likable guy, but maybe he just isn't edgy enough to just say "we are not taking a friggin punter here". If he is the one making this decision on his own, then that's a huge problem.
Hilarious that might actually be why they did it. lolhttps://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/125142-49ers-trade-dekoda-watson-sixth-round-broncos-fifth-round-nfl/
49ers trading LB Dekoda Watson and a sixth-round pick (No. 212) to the Broncos for a fifth-round pick (No. 148)
Bosa can have No 97 now
Yeah, I'm sure he's a good punter. He better be.Well it seems Wishnowsky was the highest rated punter in the draft, and now they have a 5th round pick. I think at the least they shoulda/coulda used the 4th rounder on a OL/CB/S, and took the punter in the 5th.
But, whats done is done, I just hope this punter is a diff maker in the field position game.
Better be like Ray Guy & Shane Lechler had a baby, and that baby did nothing but punt footballs from the day he could walk to this morning when he was drafted.Yeah, I'm sure he's a good punter. He better be.
I would have had no issue with this pick in the 5th. But early 4th? No thanks.IF...and thats a big IF, he does for us what Michael Dickson has done for Seattle, we might look back on this pick and say "Ok, it was ill advised but at least it wasnt a wasted pick". Seattle took Dickson in the 5th last year.
Yeah, Im trying to be positive here.
Would have been a great 5th round pick.IF...and thats a big IF, he does for us what Michael Dickson has done for Seattle, we might look back on this pick and say "Ok, it was ill advised but at least it wasnt a wasted pick". Seattle took Dickson in the 5th last year.
Yeah, Im trying to be positive here.
That's the biggest complaint. Could have gotten in the 5th. If not, not like it's a killer.The most optimistic take for getting a punter there is that picks past the 3rd round end up working so rarely that getting a solid starter (even if it is a punter) is worth more than a marginal roster guy or JAG starter. I am not up to snuff on college punters, but surely they could have got him later?
I’m fine with the Samuel pick but after that, I’m unimpressed.And now a mediocre LB.
the 1.02 was a no-brainer. After that Lynch really lost me.
It’s ok. I would have liked an OL or LB there instead.I’m fine with the Samuel pick but after that, I’m unimpressed.
Same. The 4th round punter especially. :Xi feel underwhelmed about this draft
With a day to reflect, feeling better about the draft as a whole. Well, with the exception of a friggin punter in the 4th round.Wingnut said:I'm fine with the first 4 picks, we got 4 players that should step in and contribute right away, although Hurd will be a work in progress. The rest are usually hit and miss anyway.
They should have waited a round on the punter for sure but other than that I'm pumped for the season to start, and I will be at the week 1 game in Tampa, so I'll get to see Bosa in his first game.
GOOOOO NINERS!!!!
A punter?
Had to double check to see if it was April 1st. Jesus Christ.
Because the roster is so strong that a punter was the most pressing need. Jesus H Christ!
Punter Mitch Wishnowsky, Punter, Utah.
3 time Ray Guy award finalist (2016-2018)
2018 2nd team AP All American selection
Hes Australian
Ok. But a punter? In the 4th? He better be the 2nd coming of Andy Lee.
A punter? In round 4?! With this deep of a draft class?!
....still better than the Giants 1st rounder, but...
Yeah, I'm sure he's a good punter. He better be.
Don’t worry, if he’s bad they can replace him in a couple years when he retires. The punter they drafted is 27 years old.Honestly, WTF???
Honestly, not worried about the punters age. He can kick 8-10 years safely and hard to look beyond that.Don’t worry, if he’s bad they can replace him in a couple years when he retires. The punter they drafted is 27 years old.
Yeah, I read Miller isn't a big fan of Lynch, so take it for what it's worth.Shanny calls the report complete bullshiz.
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/125262-49ers-kyle-shanahan-calls-report-lynch-complete/
Of course that's what he's gonna say, but something does seem off. I mean no way both Shanny AND Lynch would think taking a punter in the 4th is a good idea.
There’s lots of issues with it. Age is still one of them.Honestly, not worried about the punters age. He can kick 8-10 years safely and hard to look beyond that.
Drafting a punter early 4th was the issue.
Nope. I hate the pick, but age isn't an issue.There’s lots of issues with it. Age is still one of them.
Assuming he’s an all pro. The 3 oldest punters in the NFL are 37. Of the 39 Punters currently in the NFL, the median age is 27.Nope. I hate the pick, but age isn't an issue.
When the Browns drafted Weeden or the Eagles drafted that 27 year old guard a few years back, those were age issues. A punter, no worries. You get 10 years instead of 15. Not a big deal.
Yeah, age of the punter is one of the dumber things I have seen people being worried about. If he turns out be as good as they hope he could punt for 10 + years.Nope. I hate the pick, but age isn't an issue.
When the Browns drafted Weeden or the Eagles drafted that 27 year old guard a few years back, those were age issues. A punter, no worries. You get 10 years instead of 15. Not a big deal.
I agree with most of this, but he had serious man love for Soloman Thomas. After the trade with Chicago, pretty much everyone knew the Bears were taking Trubisky to give up that much draft capital to move up one spot, yet Lynch is in the 49er war room saying "they are probably taking Soloman" (paraphrase). I was watching, hoping the Bears did, just so SF wouldn't take him over Adams and Lattimore. I really thought they would trade down again. Guess the value offered wasn't to the mythical "chart value".Yeah, age of the punter is one of the dumber things I have seen people being worried about. If he turns out be as good as they hope he could punt for 10 + years.
As for Matt Miller's conjecture, he's turned into a pretty big hack. Claims to have sources with the Niners but never breaks any real news of importance. KS has had his hands all over the drafts/FA acquisitions and it's evident he wants to have a say. Lynch isn't the main personnel guys anyway. People think of him too much like a "normal GM." He really isn't. Peters manages the player evaluations / draft boards. Lynch is there to be the voice of the franchise and help Kyle's vision come to fruition. It's clear just about every offensive addition has been a KS pick. Silly report all around.
As mediocre as Thomas has been (agree he needs to play mostly inside this year) he was pretty much ranked a top 3-5 player by a lot of people heading into that draft. Teams don't draft safeties at 3 overall. In the last 25+ years only two have gone top 5, both at 5, Eric Berry and Sean Taylor. As for Lattimore there was some concern at the time about hamstring issues IIRC. He fell outside of the top 10 and was great score for the Saints. Would I rather have either player today, absolutely, but I get why they drafted Thomas at 3. I doubt that was a Lynch only decision. Looking at drafts in hindsight is pretty worthless IMO anyway. Lynch gets crap for that pick but it was a group effort and a lame year to have the second (3rd) pick. There was one true stud and then the rest. It was supposed to be a "safe pick" at the time. Thomas also hasn't had the best situation thus far. He has been played out of position with poor coaching IMO then loses his sister to suicide heading into year 2. I think the book is still out on him.I agree with most of this, but he had serious man love for Soloman Thomas. After the trade with Chicago, pretty much everyone knew the Bears were taking Trubisky to give up that much draft capital to move up one spot, yet Lynch is in the 49er war room saying "they are probably taking Soloman" (paraphrase). I was watching, hoping the Bears did, just so SF wouldn't take him over Adams and Lattimore. I really thought they would trade down again. Guess the value offered wasn't to the mythical "chart value".
Hope they give Thomas a full season playing inside.
Thomas wasn't an edge and wasn't a power inside guy, so drafting him at 3, even in a weak at the top draft class was a mistake. I was really hoping for another trade down. Rumor (that word again) was Carolina offered 8 overall and their 2nd for 3 overall. Not a great value typically, but in that draft, if true, one they should have taken.As mediocre as Thomas has been (agree he needs to play mostly inside this year) he was pretty much ranked a top 3-5 player by a lot of people heading into that draft. Teams don't draft safeties at 3 overall. In the last 25+ years only two have gone top 5, both at 5, Eric Berry and Sean Taylor. As for Lattimore there was some concern at the time about hamstring issues IIRC. He fell outside of the top 10 and was great score for the Saints. Would I rather have either player today, absolutely, but I get why they drafted Thomas at 3. I doubt that was a Lynch only decision. Looking at drafts in hindsight is pretty worthless IMO anyway. Lynch gets crap for that pick but it was a group effort and a lame year to have the second (3rd) pick. There was one true stud and then the rest. It was supposed to be a "safe pick" at the time. Thomas also hasn't had the best situation thus far. He has been played out of position with poor coaching IMO then loses his sister to suicide heading into year 2. I think the book is still out on him.
They have made a lot of moves that are easy to criticize, I do it all the time, but at the end of the day they built this roster from basically scratch. It was a dumpster fire when they took over. If they can get better luck on the injury front and some of the DB's develop this year they have a shot to make the play-offs as a WC team. I like the overall direction the team is headed. The offense will be fun this year. The defense is going to come down to the DB group IMO and how well they take the next step. The potential is there.
ETA - they just signed that "old" punter btw to a 4 year deal. Things are looking up lol
Well thank goodness for tha-wait what?Don’t worry, if he’s bad they can replace him in a couple years when he retires. The punter they drafted is 27 years old.
I don’t think Lynch is in a position to give Shanahan a hard no on anything. Shanahan basically hired Lynch, so the traditional power structure of the GM having the last word is flipped here.Yeah, I read Miller isn't a big fan of Lynch, so take it for what it's worth.
Agree that it is hard to believe that this was a consensus pick where everyone was on the same page. This is the type of situation where the GM needs to take charge and say, hell no. Not sure if Lynch is edgy enough in his current position to do that. Looks like he doesn't carry the intensity he had as a player over to his role as a GM. In 2017, Lynch had Joe Williams off their board but let Kyle have his way. Turned out Lynch was right. Of course, had they just stayed put with their early 3rd and drafted Kamara, they wouldn't have needed to waste a 4th rounder on Williams.