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Nothing wrong with that.It's just making kids participate in sports with the gender that was listed on their birth cert the day they were born.
Nothing wrong with that.It's just making kids participate in sports with the gender that was listed on their birth cert the day they were born.
Makes perfect sense.It's just making kids participate in sports with the gender that was listed on their birth cert the day they were born.
I understand you're post but I didn't read it like you“The gays?”
What year is this?
This is definitely the right approach IMO. In most of these gender-versus-sex questions, the answer is "gender." Sports is a clear-cut exception.It's just making kids participate in sports with the gender that was listed on their birth cert the day they were born.
Elizabeth Warren promised to run her candidate for Secretary of Education past a random trans child before the senate gets a crack at the nominee. Does that count?Mayor of London @MayorofLondon Feb 16
Trans women are women.
Trans men are men.
Non-binary people are non-binary.
All gender identities are valid.
https://twitter.com/MayorofLondon/status/1229074066369327107
Have any politicians is this country made such a firm statement on trans equality?
I'm sure England will be happy to see men on the next women's World Cup soccer team for 2023Mayor of London @MayorofLondon Feb 16
Trans women are women.
Trans men are men.
Non-binary people are non-binary.
All gender identities are valid.
https://twitter.com/MayorofLondon/status/1229074066369327107
Have any politicians is this country made such a firm statement on trans equality?
This might be Harry Kane's best shot at hardware TBH.I'm sure England will be happy to see men on the next women's World Cup soccer team for 2023
As if he could beat out Ellen White...This might be Harry Kane's best shot at hardware TBH.
Does Cory know?over 25% of the alphabet, impressive.
Rosaria Dawson joined their tribe too.
the K really doesn't belong, no matter how you look at this.
That sounds rather exclusionary.the K really doesn't belong, no matter how you look at this.
You're right, but we should also include Harry Potter fans. To stay inclusive.That sounds rather exclusionary.
Strange things are afoot with that circled K.the K really doesn't belong, no matter how you look at this.
Don't have to change the thread title as LGBT+ covers any and all additional letters.just learned that this got extended to LGBTQIA. Update your notebooks accordingly.
You could make it the entire alphabet and my wife still wouldn’t be down.over 25% of the alphabet, impressive
It’s too late. The train has left the station and you’re too intolerant to stop it.Don't have to change the thread title as LGBT+ covers any and all additional letters.
Transgender people are not an “issue.”Too many shades of gray with the transgender issue to issue one size fits all statements.
Closer now, but they still have not included me.
Do you think that might be intentional?Closer now, but they still have not included me.
Could save a letter by dropping the HPF and going with IV, involuntary virgins.You're right, but we should also include Harry Potter fans. To stay inclusive.
LGBTQIAKHPF+
I am fairly certain that it is. I mean there still have to be some lines, don't there?Do you think that might be intentional?
I thought that meant "plus sized"Don't have to change the thread title as LGBT+ covers any and all additional letters.
I wouldn't want to join a club that would have me as a member anyway.I am fairly certain that it is. I mean there still have to be some lines, don't there?
No, society is. Things have been separated into male and female categories for so long, that adding a third category or gray zone is going to take some time to adjust to. Making blanket statements doesn't help this along.Transgender people are not an “issue.”
HTH.
How long would you like? And “society” changes one person at a time. How about YOU stop referring to trans people as an issue and work from there in your “adjustment.” Just a suggestion.No, society is. Things have been separated into male and female categories for so long, that adding a third category or gray zone is going to take some time to adjust to. Making blanket statements doesn't help this along.
I never called transgendered people an issue. I said the transgendered issue, which included the entire spectrum of what they are going through. I'm sorry you took that as an attack on the transgendered community, that was not the case.How long would you like? And “society” changes one person at a time. How about YOU stop referring to trans people as an issue and work from there in your “adjustment.” Just a suggestion.
I don`t see it as an issue at all anymore. The gays that I know have transitioned quite nicely. It is not even mentioned or discussed. Just business as usual.How long would you like? And “society” changes one person at a time. How about YOU stop referring to trans people as an issue and work from there in your “adjustment.” Just a suggestion.
I think that if you replace "trangendered" in your sentence with other groups, you'd might come to a different conclusion.Max Power said:I never called transgendered people an issue. I said the transgendered issue, which included the entire spectrum of what they are going through. I'm sorry you took that as an attack on the transgendered community, that was not the case.
Until people can have an open and honest discussion, I don't think we're going to see much progress as a society.
Thanks for the feedback, I'll be more cognizant of that in the future.I think that if you replace "trangendered" in your sentence with other groups, you'd might come to a different conclusion.
"The Jewish issue."
"The African-American issue."
"The gay issue."
"The disabled issue."
Hell, you shouldn't really even say "transgendered" as a verb. Do we say "gayed" or "Latino'd?"
Words matter.
This could turn into an interesting case.Keira Bell of the United Kingdom told BBC News she was a tomboy as a child — and the sense she needed to transition to a male occurred gradually as she read about it online.
Bell soon sought the assistance of medicine at age 16, went to a clinic, and after three appointments lasting an hour each she was prescribed puberty blockers, the outlet said.
A year later Bell told the BBC she was prescribed the male hormone testosterone, which developed male characteristics like facial hair and a deep voice — and three years ago, she got her breasts removed.
"Initially I felt very relieved and happy about things," Bell told the outlet. "But I think as the years go on you start to feel less and less enthusiastic or even happy about things."
In the end, she decided to stop taking cross-sex hormones last year. Now at 23, Bell noted to the BBC that she accepts her sex as a female — but she's also angry about what happened to her.
'I should have been challenged'
"I was allowed to run with this idea that I had, almost like a fantasy, as a teenager," Bell told the outlet, adding that "it has affected me in the long run as an adult. I'm very young. I've only just stepped into adulthood, and I have to deal with this kind of burden or radical difference — in comparison to others at least."
More than that, she told the BBC that others should have pushed back against her decision.
"I should have been challenged on the proposals or the claims that I was making for myself," Bell told the outlet. "And I think that would have made a big difference as well. If I was just challenged on the things I was saying."
See you in court
Now Bell is taking legal action against the National Health Service gender clinic, and a judge cleared the way for a full hearing of the case against the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust, the BBC said.
Lawyers will argue that children cannot give informed consent to treatment delaying puberty or helping them to transition, the outlet added.
The clinic based in Hampstead, northwest London — which runs the UK's only gender-identity development service — told the BBC it welcomed an examination of the evidence. But former clinic staff at the clinic have said teens who want to change their genders are given puberty blockers without adequate assessment or psychological work, the outlet added.
Bell herself admitted to the BBC that when she went to clinic years ago, she would say "it was saving me from suicidal ideation and depression in general and at the time I felt it relieved all those mental health issues I was feeling, alongside gender dysphoria."
In addition, Bell told the outlet that if she had felt more accepted by society as a teen, she might not have wanted to change her gender — though she added she wouldn't have wanted to listen to challengers of her transgender desires.
"I feel I could say anything to my 16-year-old self, and I might not necessarily listen at that time," Bell added to the BBC. "And that's the point of this case, when you are that young you don't really want to listen. So I think it's up to these institutions, like the Tavistock, to step in and make children reconsider what they are saying, because it is a life-altering path."
Except none of those groups would agree with you. None of those groups would agree with you comparing them to transgenders.I think that if you replace "trangendered" in your sentence with other groups, you'd might come to a different conclusion.
"The Jewish issue."
"The African-American issue."
"The gay issue."
"The disabled issue."
Hell, you shouldn't really even say "transgendered" as a verb. Do we say "gayed" or "Latino'd?"
Words matter.
Yeah, so I live in Atlanta and have a transgender daughter. I can tell you first hand that the African American community in my neighborhood are pretty supportive of my kid.Except none of those groups would agree with you. None of those groups would agree with you comparing them to transgenders.
I dare you going to a black neighborhood and declare that the transgendered struggle is the same as the African American struggle.
In my opinion, the transgendered issue is overblown. Transgenders represent .000 04% of the population. The left has given too much power to these miniscule professional grievance groups.
Did I say we shouldn't respect people?Yeah, so I live in Atlanta and have a transgender daughter. I can tell you first hand that the African American community in my neighborhood are pretty supportive of my kid.
This isn’t a “grievance group”, it’s my life. It’s not an “issue”. It’s about basic respect.
That is the same argument that has been used against any and all LGBT+ rights since the 60s, which assumes that discrimination is somehow justified depending on size of the minority or the actual percentage of the population they represent.Did I say we shouldn't respect people?
The majority shouldn't conform to a miniscule minority but also should respect people.
I honestly don't know who this benefits other than the insurance companies.:(
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1271542795342245889
Breaking via WSJ:
The Trump admin has released a rule that would roll back Obama-era anti-discrimination protections for transgender patients under the Affordable Care Act.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1271657352882601984squistion said:https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1271542795342245889
Breaking via WSJ:
The Trump admin has released a rule that would roll back Obama-era anti-discrimination protections for transgender patients under the Affordable Care Act.
SO HUGE. I'm happily stunned.https://twitter.com/scotusreporter/status/1272530370056118280
ALERT:
Supreme Court says federal anti-discrimination law protects gay workers. Gorsuch writes opinion, and CJ Roberts and liberals join