Beerguzzler
Footballguy
Could easily be the starter next season with Gates massive cap number and decreased production.McCoy needs to get them both on the field. I don't care how he does it.
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mere blitzianity
Footballguy
If Antonio Gates went down with an injury, does this guy step in and become a big part of the offense? I'm trying to ascertain whether or not to pick him up in my dynasty league. Gates is long in the tooth, and despite playing really well thus far, I can't see him keeping it up beyond this year.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
Hoss Style
Footballguy
He's on my WW in my Keeper League, but I'm watching him closely. All reports point to him being great if/when Gates moves aside.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Hit the WW in one of my dynasties last night too. Had me thinking his value may have fallen some.
mere blitzianity
Footballguy
Thx boys!
socrates
Footballguy
Green intrigues me. He is sitting on my dynasty waiver wire, and I am certain I am not the only owner contemplating adding him. The question becomes, how long do I want to tie up a roster spot while I wait for Green? Green has elite physical skills, but expecting him to step into Gates' shoes and pick up where Gates leaves off might be a little unrealistic. Coming into the NFL, the only real knock on Green was his blocking, if I recall correctly, and hopefully Green is working to bulk up.
hmmmm . . . how much longer to wait . . .
hmmmm . . . how much longer to wait . . .
Restricted
Footballguy
Similar. Gonna have to make a roster spot for him as my waivers end next week. I'm excited about this lottery tix as he seems to be a very nice receiver. You can beat on the blocking all you want but the talent will eventually get in the game, a.e. Orange Julius
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Gates' renaissance probably pushes Green relevance out a bit. If you want him, now is the time to buy. A single 4 catch game will have people remembering why they liked him in the first place.
socrates
Footballguy
Yeah, kicking myself that I had Julius Thomas on my roster last season, then cut him when I needed the roster spot. I did the same with Cameron last season when he was injured. With limited roster spots, it is difficult to justify tying up a spot for a lottery-type TE, until you watch him tearing it up on your opponent's roster. I could certainly see Green going that path as well, so likely to put in a claim for him . . . before it is too late.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
The opportunity just isn't going to be there barring a Gates injury. They have been using him a bit more, but nothing short of a Gates injury will make him relevant in fantasy.
Disclaimer - there is a slight chance that Royal's injury could crack the door SLIGHTLY for a bit more 2 TE sets. It may just be for this game though. Even then, there are a lot of mouths to feed in SD atm.
Disclaimer - there is a slight chance that Royal's injury could crack the door SLIGHTLY for a bit more 2 TE sets. It may just be for this game though. Even then, there are a lot of mouths to feed in SD atm.
socrates
Footballguy
My interest is not in Green getting a few snaps in 2 TE sets, but rather for a potential starting TE for dynasty purposes with significant upside once Gates either retires, moves on or breaks down.
cstu
Footballguy
If you have flex spots using spots on lottery type TE's seem like a good investment these days.
lardonastick
Footballguy
Ladarius Green grows into larger role:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/oct/19/ladarius-green-chargers-rusty-whitt-louisiana/
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/oct/19/ladarius-green-chargers-rusty-whitt-louisiana/
cstu
Footballguy
Had he weighed that at the combine he may have been the #1 TE in the draft over Fleener.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Green, definitely.
But with Bostic, you might know sooner what you have.
If Green is on your ww, jump.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
I've been trying to buy him in the few leagues where I don't already own him -- no dice. Think the "buy almost free" window is pretty much closed.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Saw a guy buy him for 2nd rounder + in two different leagues this week. He's the owner of Green in a few leagues I share with him.
The others I'm in, I'm the Green owner. Picked him up for free on the ww sometime in the last year in all of them.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Yeah, I was trying to send 2nd + choice of non-elite prospect in two seperate leagues and there wasn't a hint of interest. I like the guy, but not sure how I feel about upping the ante too much more than that, mainly because I'm overloaded with similar young TE prospects pretty much everywhere.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Yeah, I wouldn't pay more than that. There's always the chance that he's a guy everyone assumes will be the heir apparent, but is really just preferred as a role player. Especially with this deep TE class coming, and Gates' turnaround, you never know what a team's gonna do.I'm not saying that's necessarily the case, but they aren't highly invested in him and we've seen very little on-field production.
So he's a good speculative buy, but you can only go so high on those or they start becoming more risk then gamble.
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cstu
Footballguy
He's averaging 22 YPR. Granted it's 5 catches but he's only had 7 targets.
Talent - check
Production when given the opportunity - check
Opportunity - that's the big ?
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
In separate leagues...
Offered Fleener for Green: rejected
Offered Eifert + Gresham for Green + (early) 2nd: rejected
Offered Fleener for Green: rejected
Offered Eifert + Gresham for Green + (early) 2nd: rejected
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Wow. As a Green owner in three leagues, I'd take that second deal immediately every time.
Otis
Footballguy
When are we expecting that will happen? We going to have to sit on him a few more years?
GeeYouknit
Footballguy
It would take a mid 1st for me to consider giving this guy up I think. Held him for too long already and now I'm seeing how good he can be. Crazy good.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I can save everyone some time -- don't bother trying to buy after yesterday. His price was already high and 4-81 will have obviously boosted it.
I've said all season that I don't think we'll have to wait until Gates is gone to see Green. He's too good to keep off the field. Yesterday was the next step forward IMO.
I've said all season that I don't think we'll have to wait until Gates is gone to see Green. He's too good to keep off the field. Yesterday was the next step forward IMO.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Gronk and Hernandez co-existed just fine there for a while... at 6'6" with 4.4 speed...Green is a WR-esque matchup nightmare on linebackers that appears to be coming into his own.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Starting to wonder, but it might be hard to actually pull the trigger and put him in a lineup unless we see similar targets/results in Weeks 12/13 -- i.e. that he was startable for three weeks running. Outside of total desperation, there's no way I'd drop him into a playoff lineup without that.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
I would say more, possibly much more. I'd buy buy buy if you can. Gates' new found fountain of youth won't last forever. He's 33 and an injury away from being done.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
[SIZE=medium]I originally posted this question in July 2012. I ended up trading my 2013 R2 in a 10 team TE premium dynasty to get Green. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]I lost the Super Bowl in 2012, so the pick ended up being 2.09. He took Robert Woods WR BUF[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]In a TE premium ( double TE yardage ), I will take that trade. This one may just turn out for me.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]ends up being a hot topic![/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]I lost the Super Bowl in 2012, so the pick ended up being 2.09. He took Robert Woods WR BUF[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]In a TE premium ( double TE yardage ), I will take that trade. This one may just turn out for me.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]ends up being a hot topic![/SIZE]
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
He still has a ways to go apparently to becoming a complete guy, but thy have been moving to more two TE sets with him actually running pass patterns. On top of Brown running yet another bad route that resulted in a pick, I do think they will move toward more two TE sets going forward. He is hands down the biggest mismatch the Chargers have outside of Allen. It's only a matter of time. He'll be a featured player next season even if Gates is on the team.
My expectations are that he becomes more of a focus in the red zone where the team has really struggled this season. There is simply no other player on the roster that has his size/speed combo and they really have missed that since DX went out in the preseason and Floyd during the regular season.
My expectations are that he becomes more of a focus in the red zone where the team has really struggled this season. There is simply no other player on the roster that has his size/speed combo and they really have missed that since DX went out in the preseason and Floyd during the regular season.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Giving Green the old desperation start in a TE premium league. Hoping to look like the unlikely genius at the end of the day.
cstu
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
So...did he actually manage to INCREASE his YPC?? Insane how many big plays this guy makes.
