Dr. Octopus
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You owe Soulfly a new monitor. His has splooge all over now.gianmarco said:
You owe Soulfly a new monitor. His has splooge all over now.gianmarco said:
The pot is a gateway drug to crack and meth. Just give it time. Owners beware.Did he test positive for crack?
This guy is LT only in wide receiver format.I literally watch what he did to Talib every couple weeks, just to put a smile on my face.
It was the most vicious WR play Id seen in... ages.
queued up for your viewing pleasure: https://youtu.be/7vtyfcLYCNk?t=225
I have no idea the source of his problems, but if he's willing to ditch friends that aren't good for him, that can only be seen as really, really positive.Chaka said:That was a very positive tweet, I am glad to see that.JuniorNB said:Good sign. He knows that sometimes it's the company you keep.@JOSH_GORDONXII 3m3 minutes ago
Priority #1 Get back in..
Priority #2 Stay in.. If you're not contributing to that, I gotta disassociate I'm sorry.. #mouthstofeed
I wish my redraft was today and not in September which looks like it will be too late to get him for any kind of value.
Considering that the QBs he's played with are Jason Campbell, Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer, I don't think playing with a new QB could have a negative impact on his numbers. Goff-to-Gordon would be huge.I can see that as his upside, sure, but it's hard not to think the layoff, new offense, and playing with a QB he has never played with before might have SOME negative impact on his numbers.Josh Gordon is going to come in and blow the lid off the damn thing. I dont care about the layoff. He wasnt sitting in prison like a certain dog fighter we all know. He is not a rookie either. Focused, in shape, and guided by a solid offensive mind, Gordon will finish with 85+ receptions, 1400+ yards, and 7+ tds. Take it to the bank. The only ones talking about suspensions will be the haters and they will be talking about it til he is out of the league. Maybe even after.
No, no more than any other team that needs wr help, which is a lot of teams.As mentioned above... Gotta think that if Megatron does retire, Detroit would at least take a shot at landing him, no?
Agree about the QB although I wonder how much the transition from Norv's offense to Hue's will impact that equation.Considering that the QBs he's played with are Jason Campbell, Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer, I don't think playing with a new QB could have a negative impact on his numbers. Goff-to-Gordon would be huge.I can see that as his upside, sure, but it's hard not to think the layoff, new offense, and playing with a QB he has never played with before might have SOME negative impact on his numbers.Josh Gordon is going to come in and blow the lid off the damn thing. I dont care about the layoff. He wasnt sitting in prison like a certain dog fighter we all know. He is not a rookie either. Focused, in shape, and guided by a solid offensive mind, Gordon will finish with 85+ receptions, 1400+ yards, and 7+ tds. Take it to the bank. The only ones talking about suspensions will be the haters and they will be talking about it til he is out of the league. Maybe even after.
He went at WR30, 4.13 (16 teams) in the FBG Winter Survivor League.Ok, Soulfly3 honesty time.
In redraft THIS season, I probably take him AFTER a brown, julio, beckham and deandre.
That's it. No one else I'd rather have.
I am a "risk taker" though. That's just how I play. Fantasy is fun, the money means nothing... It's just the fun of being right in a league w the same 11 other dudes for the past nearly 15yrs.
:soulfly: 16 haters :soulfly:He went at WR30, 4.13 (16 teams) in the FBG Winter Survivor League.Ok, Soulfly3 honesty time.
In redraft THIS season, I probably take him AFTER a brown, julio, beckham and deandre.
That's it. No one else I'd rather have.
I am a "risk taker" though. That's just how I play. Fantasy is fun, the money means nothing... It's just the fun of being right in a league w the same 11 other dudes for the past nearly 15yrs.
Meh, why would Cleveland even listen? They stuck with him this long, his Instagram game is TIGHT, and Johnny Broball is making everyone else look like a choir boy. Why trade him now? Same attitude as dynasty owners, if you have held this long, may as well see if he can get reinstated, and score 9 TDs per game next year.As mentioned above... Gotta think that if Megatron does retire, Detroit would at least take a shot at landing him, no?
There are probably only 4 or 5 receivers I would want over Gordon, period. Brown, OBJ, Julio, Green. I'm not sure I go beyond that before taking Gordon.Dynasty league, pick 4 or Gordon?
If your answer is pick 4, who are your top 4-5 rookies?
WhyyyyyyyyyyyyDynasty league, pick 4 or Gordon?
If your answer is pick 4, who are your top 4-5 rookies?
You're telling me that in a dynasty startup, you'd take Gordon over Amari Cooper? Randall Cobb? DeAndre freakin' Hopkins?There are probably only 4 or 5 receivers I would want over Gordon, period. Brown, OBJ, Julio, Green. I'm not sure I go beyond that before taking Gordon.Dynasty league, pick 4 or Gordon?
If your answer is pick 4, who are your top 4-5 rookies?
I take Gordon over that rookie pick easily.
tough, absolutely yes, and no.You're telling me that in a dynasty startup, you'd take Gordon over Amari Cooper? Randall Cobb? DeAndre freakin' Hopkins?There are probably only 4 or 5 receivers I would want over Gordon, period. Brown, OBJ, Julio, Green. I'm not sure I go beyond that before taking Gordon.Dynasty league, pick 4 or Gordon?
If your answer is pick 4, who are your top 4-5 rookies?
I take Gordon over that rookie pick easily.
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Gorden over Cooper might be possible from a talent perspective, but not from an expected future value perspective. Gordon hasn't even been reinstated, and has a moderate-to-high probability of screwing up again in the future.tough, absolutely yes, and no.You're telling me that in a dynasty startup, you'd take Gordon over Amari Cooper? Randall Cobb? DeAndre freakin' Hopkins?There are probably only 4 or 5 receivers I would want over Gordon, period. Brown, OBJ, Julio, Green. I'm not sure I go beyond that before taking Gordon.Dynasty league, pick 4 or Gordon?
If your answer is pick 4, who are your top 4-5 rookies?
I take Gordon over that rookie pick easily.
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Gordon is top 5-6 for me as well.
His salary is cheap and he can be kept as a RFA for cheap in 2017.What do you think his NFL trade value is?....if CLE wants to (but isn't desparate to)move him.....think a team could get him with a 4th?
Well, considering it appears that MOST of the fantasy world values pick 4 more than Gordon, I think it' s a rather valid question.WhyyyyyyyyyyyyDynasty league, pick 4 or Gordon?
If your answer is pick 4, who are your top 4-5 rookies?
Hey, look on the bright side! He just went off the board at WR23 (3.08) for the clearly-more-enlightened group participating in WSL2.:soulfly: 16 haters :soulfly:He went at WR30, 4.13 (16 teams) in the FBG Winter Survivor League.Ok, Soulfly3 honesty time.
In redraft THIS season, I probably take him AFTER a brown, julio, beckham and deandre.
That's it. No one else I'd rather have.
I am a "risk taker" though. That's just how I play. Fantasy is fun, the money means nothing... It's just the fun of being right in a league w the same 11 other dudes for the past nearly 15yrs.
Just got him at 5.05 in a dynasty startup (12 team PPR). Would've taken him earlier if I felt like I needed to.Hey, look on the bright side! He just went off the board at WR23 (3.08) for the clearly-more-enlightened group participating in WSL2.:soulfly: 16 haters :soulfly:He went at WR30, 4.13 (16 teams) in the FBG Winter Survivor League.Ok, Soulfly3 honesty time.
In redraft THIS season, I probably take him AFTER a brown, julio, beckham and deandre.
That's it. No one else I'd rather have.
I am a "risk taker" though. That's just how I play. Fantasy is fun, the money means nothing... It's just the fun of being right in a league w the same 11 other dudes for the past nearly 15yrs.
Full disclosure: that's only because I didn't have the stones to grab him at 3.07. Thought about it, though.
After reading the coaches thoughts, he's destined for either another suspension or knee injury.You're telling me that in a dynasty startup, you'd take Gordon over Amari Cooper? Randall Cobb? DeAndre freakin' Hopkins?There are probably only 4 or 5 receivers I would want over Gordon, period. Brown, OBJ, Julio, Green. I'm not sure I go beyond that before taking Gordon.Dynasty league, pick 4 or Gordon?
If your answer is pick 4, who are your top 4-5 rookies?
I take Gordon over that rookie pick easily.
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If he's "hopeful" that means he's not "confident" and I wouldn't expect him to reinstate someone he doesn't believe gets it. So he either isn't sold or hasn't gotten enough info. Is an interview with Gordon part of the process? Has that happened? Or do we just have a written appeal filed so far.Goodell acknowledged that the league received Gordon’s letter asking for re-instatement, but also added “...where he is and where he's been, but most importantly, where he is going,’’ Goodell said. "When these things happen, it's about trying to avoid them in the future. Our number one issue here is to prevent these things from happening.
"I'm hopeful that Josh understands that he's going to have to conduct himself differently going forward to be a member of the NFL and to be representing the Cleveland Browns or any other team in the NFL."
Gordon, I've already done this trade.Dynasty league, pick 4 or Gordon?
If your answer is pick 4, who are your top 4-5 rookies?
That would be the dumbest thing ever. Goodell can't not reinstate him if he has done everything asked of him since his last offense. Goodell can't say I think you will have a relapse or another incident that hasn't happened yet. If he did I am sure Gordon would appeal it and the NFLPA/courts would have another field day with a Goodell suspension and make him look like an idiot again.Based on what?
If he's "hopeful" that means he's not "confident" and I wouldn't expect him to reinstate someone he doesn't believe gets it. So he either isn't sold or hasn't gotten enough info. Is an interview with Gordon part of the process? Has that happened? Or do we just have a written appeal filed so far.Goodell acknowledged that the league received Gordon’s letter asking for re-instatement, but also added “...where he is and where he's been, but most importantly, where he is going,’’ Goodell said. "When these things happen, it's about trying to avoid them in the future. Our number one issue here is to prevent these things from happening.
"I'm hopeful that Josh understands that he's going to have to conduct himself differently going forward to be a member of the NFL and to be representing the Cleveland Browns or any other team in the NFL."
That's exactly the point. We don't know if he has. Or if he hasn't. We don't know anything yet, because they haven't announced anything yet. I doubt a decision has been been made or that he's reviewed the details of Gordon's appeal. They are focusing on the Super Bowl right now, not the impact Gordon would have on some donkey's FF team.That would be the dumbest thing ever. Goodell can't not reinstate him if he has done everything asked of him since his last offense. Goodell can't say I think you will have a relapse or another incident that hasn't happened yet. If he did I am sure Gordon would appeal it and the NFLPA/courts would have another field day with a Goodell suspension and make him look like an idiot again.Based on what?
If he's "hopeful" that means he's not "confident" and I wouldn't expect him to reinstate someone he doesn't believe gets it. So he either isn't sold or hasn't gotten enough info. Is an interview with Gordon part of the process? Has that happened? Or do we just have a written appeal filed so far.Goodell acknowledged that the league received Gordon’s letter asking for re-instatement, but also added “...where he is and where he's been, but most importantly, where he is going,’’ Goodell said. "When these things happen, it's about trying to avoid them in the future. Our number one issue here is to prevent these things from happening.
"I'm hopeful that Josh understands that he's going to have to conduct himself differently going forward to be a member of the NFL and to be representing the Cleveland Browns or any other team in the NFL."
This seems like a last ditch effort attempt to cast uncertainty and doubt on a situation that is clearly trending in Gordon's favor. Unfortunately nobody in the forum shares this wishful sentiment.That's exactly the point. We don't know if he has. Or if he hasn't. We don't know anything yet, because they haven't announced anything yet. I doubt a decision has been been made or that he's reviewed the details of Gordon's appeal. They are focusing on the Super Bowl right now, not the impact Gordon would have on some donkey's FF team.That would be the dumbest thing ever. Goodell can't not reinstate him if he has done everything asked of him since his last offense. Goodell can't say I think you will have a relapse or another incident that hasn't happened yet. If he did I am sure Gordon would appeal it and the NFLPA/courts would have another field day with a Goodell suspension and make him look like an idiot again.Based on what?
If he's "hopeful" that means he's not "confident" and I wouldn't expect him to reinstate someone he doesn't believe gets it. So he either isn't sold or hasn't gotten enough info. Is an interview with Gordon part of the process? Has that happened? Or do we just have a written appeal filed so far.Goodell acknowledged that the league received Gordons letter asking for re-instatement, but also added ...where he is and where he's been, but most importantly, where he is going, Goodell said. "When these things happen, it's about trying to avoid them in the future. Our number one issue here is to prevent these things from happening.
"I'm hopeful that Josh understands that he's going to have to conduct himself differently going forward to be a member of the NFL and to be representing the Cleveland Browns or any other team in the NFL."
Not hard to figure out. He will play for cleveland.What will the Browns do with him if/when he's reinstated? Organizationally, they have to be moving away from players like Gordon as a philosophy at this point.
Correct. Cutting him would be straight idiotic, and he likely doesnt have much trade value.He's no Manziel. What they have to do is play him and reap the rewards of their patience.
Find new ways to aid him in ruining his career?What will the Browns do with him if/when he's reinstated? Organizationally, they have to be moving away from players like Gordon as a philosophy at this point.
Uncertainty is all there is. How is it trending in any direction? There's no info at all.This seems like a last ditch effort attempt to cast uncertainty and doubt on a situation that is clearly trending in Gordon's favor. Unfortunately nobody in the forum shares this wishful sentiment.That's exactly the point. We don't know if he has. Or if he hasn't. We don't know anything yet, because they haven't announced anything yet. I doubt a decision has been been made or that he's reviewed the details of Gordon's appeal. They are focusing on the Super Bowl right now, not the impact Gordon would have on some donkey's FF team.That would be the dumbest thing ever. Goodell can't not reinstate him if he has done everything asked of him since his last offense. Goodell can't say I think you will have a relapse or another incident that hasn't happened yet. If he did I am sure Gordon would appeal it and the NFLPA/courts would have another field day with a Goodell suspension and make him look like an idiot again.Based on what?
If he's "hopeful" that means he's not "confident" and I wouldn't expect him to reinstate someone he doesn't believe gets it. So he either isn't sold or hasn't gotten enough info. Is an interview with Gordon part of the process? Has that happened? Or do we just have a written appeal filed so far.Goodell acknowledged that the league received Gordons letter asking for re-instatement, but also added ...where he is and where he's been, but most importantly, where he is going, Goodell said. "When these things happen, it's about trying to avoid them in the future. Our number one issue here is to prevent these things from happening.
"I'm hopeful that Josh understands that he's going to have to conduct himself differently going forward to be a member of the NFL and to be representing the Cleveland Browns or any other team in the NFL."