100%. Both of those are excellent and give a nice roundup of the news.
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100%. Both of those are excellent and give a nice roundup of the news.
At the top of a thread there is the title and then a 1, 2, 3, 4 etc horizontally to designate the number of pages the thread includes (assuming it's more than 1 page). And to the right of the numbers is the "Jump to new" button.
Also, a thread from a couple of years ago that might be useful. And feel free to add to it. https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...ul-tips-for-how-to-best-use-the-forum.805529/
Thank you for the suggestions on the political forum. That one I cannot do. I appreciate and think I understand the desire for it though. Just not here.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Pictures would be interesting just because that would be new for us - I think we may have had them briefly for a while a long time ago, but I barely remember. It would be fun to see what sort of shtick naturally emerges with the arrival of a new medium.
But I'd expect it to implode from a moderation standpoint. No way that works and stays PG and non political.
But I'd expect it to implode from a moderation standpoint. No way that works and stays PG and non political.
Thanks. If you see those, please click the "report" button and let us know and we can see about moving.
jhib
Footballguy
This. It seems more and more often lately, I find myself saying to my wife and/or kids, "This is why we can't have nice things." In all kinds of situations, some people just can't help themselves but to do something stupid and ruin it for everyone else as the powers that be decide that it's just not worth it.
This place (especially the FFA) is a nice thing, and I really appreciate that Joe adjusts it to make it work for him (while keeping core) rather than just pulling the cord on it all.
squistion
Footballguy
The election coming up is not only the most important one of our lifetimes, but arguably the most important in the history of this Republic, but you would never know it if you got most of your non-football news from this forum. And I am not being hyperbolic about the threat posed to our experiment in Democracy.
I have expressed my feelings before about this decision to exclude all political discussion here, so I won't revisit it again. Nor will I give my thoughts on how this forum can be better as I doubt it would change anything.
Cheers!
From the Shark Pool forum where I posted this same question: https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...-be-better-your-thoughts.812249/post-24897780
Ok. Thanks for reading then.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I wouldn't mind this if a subscription gave us ad-free forums. Seems reasonable to me.
Someone said we don't listen. I was reminded on this of a discussion we had a couple of years ago in the Shark Pool about how we organize topics. https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...hreads-on-specific-topics-please-help.798813/.
At the time, I felt like we should change some of the structure and not have the giant threads where each player gets his own thread and all the news stays there instead of creating new threads to talk topics. I don't like it when a story breaks that includes several players and it's difficult to know where to discuss. And I think lots of discussion happens around current events or breaking news that often isn't clear when the forum just lists all the players with no mention of the event.
We discussed it back and forth for several pages and in the end, I listened to lots of different points and we decided to not do what I was proposing and keep the forum mostly organized by player threads. And I think that's worked well. And a good example I think of all sides listening and discussing.
At the time, I felt like we should change some of the structure and not have the giant threads where each player gets his own thread and all the news stays there instead of creating new threads to talk topics. I don't like it when a story breaks that includes several players and it's difficult to know where to discuss. And I think lots of discussion happens around current events or breaking news that often isn't clear when the forum just lists all the players with no mention of the event.
We discussed it back and forth for several pages and in the end, I listened to lots of different points and we decided to not do what I was proposing and keep the forum mostly organized by player threads. And I think that's worked well. And a good example I think of all sides listening and discussing.
beer 30
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure when the board migrated from Old Yeller we had embedded pics for a brief few days, maybe a week. It devolved exactly as you described above, took longer than I thought it would.
The Gator
Footballguy
The last two software upgrades also allowed this for a few days iirc.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
And it went about as well as expected each time
-OZ-
Footballguy
It’s been a long time since I went there but I thought the one I’m thinking of was a forum. (Could definitely be misremembering)
Dezbelief
Footballguy
A poster who hasn't been hanging out here lately has a kid who has been waiting for a few days to get his username approved.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
gets me every time
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
I find it funny that you highlight what is by any reasonable definition a political discussion.
Interesting. I didn't find it to too political. I see it as more sociological. I guess anything that has potential laws involved could be political but the discussion seemed to be way more about society. And certainly, it didn't feel partisan.
Regardless, I thought it was a good smart discussion.
Thanks. I'll ask the mods to take a look. I know with the recent bot registrations, they've been slower to onboard.
How good the forum is or can become is really a product of the community as a whole. The posts make up the entirety of the forum, so worthwhile, thought provoking posts will add substantially to the value of the forum. I don’t have the answer as to how to enhance the posts, but I will say that a lot of the FFA has become stale. This staleness is really just a natural by-product of the vast majority of the prolific posters having been here 10, 15, 20+ years. This is not necessarily a shot at anyone in particular, but there is just no evolution.
A few cases in point would be on the off chance that someone posts a topic in the wrong forum, for instance asking for lineup advice in the FFA, well, you get the same, tired 20-30 posts from the same posters all the time and it’s just HILARIOUS every single time. Let me see your rooster. Where’s Gates, etc… Dude hasn’t played a down in 6 years, but it’ so funny when someone makes a mistake to get the same old jokes told.
You scroll down the threads and there are countless threads about songs from a specific year. It’s fun to discuss music, I love music, but I don’t feel the need to have thread after thread after thread about so and so’s tastes in music. There have been some awesome music threads, don’t get me wrong. But the good music threads had a LOT of thought and work put into them and had a lot of good discussions within.
And then of course you have probably on the order of 80% of the posts in a specific forum made by the same 1-2% of the posters. Of course hearing the same people post over and over and over again is going to get stale.
Personally, I have become a less and less frequent contributor here. And when I do, I stay to specific threads only where I feel a) an interest and b) can make a positive contribution in my post that can hopefully help someone else (arguable, I know). If someone starts a Beyonce thread (oh look another music thread) and someone gets banned, well, I couldn’t tell you who it was, because it doesn’t interest me.
I think having a political forum was great, because frankly, I can’t stand politics, and I could just ignore it altogether. But I totally understand the reasons for not having it back as well. One forum I frequent has an “invisible” political forum where only registered members can post and they must ask for and be granted access to this forum and if they go off the rails in there, they are whacked. It works for that site just fine. All in all, FBG’s have stated what they wanted and have adhered to it, so that’s just fine. I know it’s terrible to look at attractive females, but if that’s their prerogative, they’ve said as much. It’s nice to be excellent to each other. It would be great if people didn’t lose their minds over politics so much so they could have a place to go, but they can’t help themselves I suppose.
A few cases in point would be on the off chance that someone posts a topic in the wrong forum, for instance asking for lineup advice in the FFA, well, you get the same, tired 20-30 posts from the same posters all the time and it’s just HILARIOUS every single time. Let me see your rooster. Where’s Gates, etc… Dude hasn’t played a down in 6 years, but it’ so funny when someone makes a mistake to get the same old jokes told.
You scroll down the threads and there are countless threads about songs from a specific year. It’s fun to discuss music, I love music, but I don’t feel the need to have thread after thread after thread about so and so’s tastes in music. There have been some awesome music threads, don’t get me wrong. But the good music threads had a LOT of thought and work put into them and had a lot of good discussions within.
And then of course you have probably on the order of 80% of the posts in a specific forum made by the same 1-2% of the posters. Of course hearing the same people post over and over and over again is going to get stale.
Personally, I have become a less and less frequent contributor here. And when I do, I stay to specific threads only where I feel a) an interest and b) can make a positive contribution in my post that can hopefully help someone else (arguable, I know). If someone starts a Beyonce thread (oh look another music thread) and someone gets banned, well, I couldn’t tell you who it was, because it doesn’t interest me.
I think having a political forum was great, because frankly, I can’t stand politics, and I could just ignore it altogether. But I totally understand the reasons for not having it back as well. One forum I frequent has an “invisible” political forum where only registered members can post and they must ask for and be granted access to this forum and if they go off the rails in there, they are whacked. It works for that site just fine. All in all, FBG’s have stated what they wanted and have adhered to it, so that’s just fine. I know it’s terrible to look at attractive females, but if that’s their prerogative, they’ve said as much. It’s nice to be excellent to each other. It would be great if people didn’t lose their minds over politics so much so they could have a place to go, but they can’t help themselves I suppose.
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100% agree how good the forum is is how good the posters are. Always has been.
I don't necessarily agree we haven't evolved. I think we have. I also think it's easy to get complacent and even stale if we let it. That's part of why I'm asking here for feedback.
One big thing I think we can add is making the forum more welcoming. Nobody here is rude, but it can be a little tough for a new poster to break in when there are so many inside jokes or old friendships. Not sure the best way to do that but it's something I'd like to see us maybe do more.
Sounds cheesy but maybe some sort of welcome thing? I don't know.
Al Czervik
Not wearing pants
I personally hate politics and like that we don't allow it here. However, for those that are asking for it, maybe you could have one (maybe pinned) thread for the 2024 Presidential Election. Since it's a big 4-year event, perhaps it could be an exception and give some posters the avenue for discussion that they are looking for.
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The Gator
Footballguy
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beer 30
Footballguy
I could resurrect my old welcome to the forum schtick for a small fee
Let people be funny again. Guys like Tanner, McSomething or other, Finless (rip), etc…brought the hahas. Most of them eventually moved on after being banned too many times.
Maybe have another non-PG FFA forum but with a big disclaimer on top (or that you need to click and accept) acknowledging that posts with that forum are intended for adults.
Maybe have another non-PG FFA forum but with a big disclaimer on top (or that you need to click and accept) acknowledging that posts with that forum are intended for adults.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Let offdee be offdee, and I'm not just saying that cause I bought a watch off of him. No politics is cool and no pics is probably smart, but puritanism is too teetotal-y for me. Give me a little edginess.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
@McGarnagle
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
He was no Bored Stormtrooper
I realize other opinions may differ, but I don't think a bunch of old guys with anonymous screen names yucking it up about "Riding her like a scooter" is "edgy".
And I don't think asking folks not to do that is "Puritanism."
Again, I understand not everyone feels that way.
Rich Conway
Footballguy
Middle-aged, sir. Middle-aged,
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
I agree that that's crossing a line, but there is little tolerance for anything risqué here. That's the puritanism I'm referring to.
Captain Cranks
Footballguy
After more than a year running the Discord that was prompted by the closure of the PSF, I've come to the conclusion that political discussions that involve both conservative and liberal viewpoints can stay civil for only brief periods of time. We're too hellbent on winning the debate and ignore the need to listen to others with an open mind.
Political debates need to be moderated with the skill of a marriage counselor which is obviously not feasible.
Political debates need to be moderated with the skill of a marriage counselor which is obviously not feasible.
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Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
Yeah, middle-aged assuming you live to be 100.
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rockaction
Footballguy
The only thing I would wish for to make the boards better is to get new blood in here, but it seems that is impossible and if it weren't impossible we'd just haze the crap out of them anyway until they left, so we're stuck with us.
I also think that this election is the most important of our lifetimes, but I don't think anybody can keep it civil, and that extends into real life. It's not just this message board that bans politics—almost every board does now, which is a shame because there is a ton of stuff out there that absolutely should be discussed before anything else in life.
Yes, in life.
Yes, it's that important.
But to suggest that the board needs politics is inaccurate. It's a real problem everywhere and it's a partisan issue at its core. So how to do it? How can we avoid all this?
We can't. I've been harassed at the voting booth for merely asking about a political party and an open primary vote. So forget having any reasonable discussion either online or in meatspace. Really. Forget it.
It's so sickening I can't even . . .
We're seriously screwed.
Peace, fellas. Best to all of you.
I also think that this election is the most important of our lifetimes, but I don't think anybody can keep it civil, and that extends into real life. It's not just this message board that bans politics—almost every board does now, which is a shame because there is a ton of stuff out there that absolutely should be discussed before anything else in life.
Yes, in life.
Yes, it's that important.
But to suggest that the board needs politics is inaccurate. It's a real problem everywhere and it's a partisan issue at its core. So how to do it? How can we avoid all this?
We can't. I've been harassed at the voting booth for merely asking about a political party and an open primary vote. So forget having any reasonable discussion either online or in meatspace. Really. Forget it.
It's so sickening I can't even . . .
We're seriously screwed.
Peace, fellas. Best to all of you.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Shutting down the political forum probably the right call from Joe’s perspective as a mod. Probably also better for my personal mental health as not sure how I’d react to someone spouting conspiracy theories over certain recent events (probably close to how I reacted when a former FBG owner started posting Pizzagate stuff and nearly caused me to leave this site completely, but I digress).
There are times that I think suspensions are the right call. And sometimes I think get it wrong (where maybe some innocent joshing that got interpreted wrong), and turns off some good posters who then decide to leave. I can’t say that I envy the mod needing to make that judgment on what’s innocent and what’s got malicious intent, but, since you asked for opinions, that’s my view of things anyway.
There are times that I think suspensions are the right call. And sometimes I think get it wrong (where maybe some innocent joshing that got interpreted wrong), and turns off some good posters who then decide to leave. I can’t say that I envy the mod needing to make that judgment on what’s innocent and what’s got malicious intent, but, since you asked for opinions, that’s my view of things anyway.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
Why not a private opt in politics thread?
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I'll see myself out......
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