ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
OK, not sure if this will work or not, but I've been wanting to try it and lately I've seen people quote highlight times in discussions of the RBs this year, so let's see if we can find some common ground.
I'll post a YouTube video, in this case of CJ Spiller, and break down the first couple of plays as well as possible given the format. Then other posters can break down the same couple of plays the way they see it. Hopefully this leads to some good discussion.
NOTE - I am not saying that YouTube highlights are the best way to scout prospects. Seeing their bad runs, fumbles, fakes and pass pro plays in full game tape is much better. But YouTube is much easier to share on a message board.
The video is
. It has some extraneous stuff at the beginning, so bear with it. The first real play starts at 1:04. Play 1 - 1.04 - Against Boston College - Clemson 18 yard line
Spiller runs out to the right sideline at the snap and catches a pass. He runs up the sideline for a bit and then cuts it back across the field to go all the way for the TD.
Can't tell how easily he catch it because he's behind the ESPN graphic, LOL. But he makes a smooth transition up field. Beats a defender up the sideline at 1:12. Gears down at 1:13 for a cut, really too much almost standing straight up at the end, although he does make the defender miss. Transitions his weight forward well and gets back up to speed quickly. Makes a real nice juke to the right at 1:15 that is done without gearing down and gets by another defender. Does a good job at 1:16 with long vision and seeing more space to the left (although to be fair, the sideline limits where he can go, LOL). Makes another nice juke right and then an ole move to the left to get by a defender at 1:17, gearing down a little bit, but not really too much as I think it helped sell the juke. Almost gets run over by a OL coming down field at 1:19, but gets back up to speed quickly and out runs everyone to the end zone.
Play 2 - 1:31 - Against Wake Forest - Clemson 28 yard line
Spiller takes a hand off on a play designed to go off right tackle, goes through the hole, bounces by a defender and then out runs everyone down the right sideline for a TD.
He takes the hand off and goes right toward the designed hole. He seems to stutter step a bit at 1:36 as though checking his options, but he doesn't slow down enough to miss the hole. He gets through the hole and into the second level and then plants his left leg at 1:37 before lowering his shoulder as a defender tries to tackle him from the left front. He manages to avoid the tackle with minimal contact, regain his balance and get back up to speed quickly. He turns on the jets and out runs a defender that seems to have an angle for the TD. One thing I can't tell from the video is whether Spiller intended to fake the defender at the second level with the left leg plant or whether he did that because he was thinking of going that way. Either way, he ran by a tackle (I wouldn't call that running through a tackle) and scored. One note is that the WR (Ford?) is coming around on a reverse run so there is some misdirection on the play. But it looks like it really only fooled one defender.
Play 3 - 1:56 - Against Georgia Tech - 50 yard line
Spiller takes the hand off, runs through a hole up the middle, and isn't touched as he goes for the TD.
Spiller takes the hand off and heads right up the middle. At 1:58 it looks like he considers going right but plants his foot and goes left with very little gear down. Then he just circles around a couple of defenders a little bit while getting up to speed and is gone. Not a ton to say about this one other than it is up the middle. He has a nice hole but I think he shows good vision here by heading left a little and then curling back toward the center of the field so the CB can't quite get there. Not much in the way of power or moves here, just some nice vision and pure speed.
So anyway, there are the first three plays. So I'm hoping some other people can break those down or just tell us what else you saw in them or where you agreed or disagreed with my take.
Thanks!
I'll post a YouTube video, in this case of CJ Spiller, and break down the first couple of plays as well as possible given the format. Then other posters can break down the same couple of plays the way they see it. Hopefully this leads to some good discussion.
NOTE - I am not saying that YouTube highlights are the best way to scout prospects. Seeing their bad runs, fumbles, fakes and pass pro plays in full game tape is much better. But YouTube is much easier to share on a message board.
The video is
. It has some extraneous stuff at the beginning, so bear with it. The first real play starts at 1:04. Play 1 - 1.04 - Against Boston College - Clemson 18 yard line
Spiller runs out to the right sideline at the snap and catches a pass. He runs up the sideline for a bit and then cuts it back across the field to go all the way for the TD.
Can't tell how easily he catch it because he's behind the ESPN graphic, LOL. But he makes a smooth transition up field. Beats a defender up the sideline at 1:12. Gears down at 1:13 for a cut, really too much almost standing straight up at the end, although he does make the defender miss. Transitions his weight forward well and gets back up to speed quickly. Makes a real nice juke to the right at 1:15 that is done without gearing down and gets by another defender. Does a good job at 1:16 with long vision and seeing more space to the left (although to be fair, the sideline limits where he can go, LOL). Makes another nice juke right and then an ole move to the left to get by a defender at 1:17, gearing down a little bit, but not really too much as I think it helped sell the juke. Almost gets run over by a OL coming down field at 1:19, but gets back up to speed quickly and out runs everyone to the end zone.
Play 2 - 1:31 - Against Wake Forest - Clemson 28 yard line
Spiller takes a hand off on a play designed to go off right tackle, goes through the hole, bounces by a defender and then out runs everyone down the right sideline for a TD.
He takes the hand off and goes right toward the designed hole. He seems to stutter step a bit at 1:36 as though checking his options, but he doesn't slow down enough to miss the hole. He gets through the hole and into the second level and then plants his left leg at 1:37 before lowering his shoulder as a defender tries to tackle him from the left front. He manages to avoid the tackle with minimal contact, regain his balance and get back up to speed quickly. He turns on the jets and out runs a defender that seems to have an angle for the TD. One thing I can't tell from the video is whether Spiller intended to fake the defender at the second level with the left leg plant or whether he did that because he was thinking of going that way. Either way, he ran by a tackle (I wouldn't call that running through a tackle) and scored. One note is that the WR (Ford?) is coming around on a reverse run so there is some misdirection on the play. But it looks like it really only fooled one defender.
Play 3 - 1:56 - Against Georgia Tech - 50 yard line
Spiller takes the hand off, runs through a hole up the middle, and isn't touched as he goes for the TD.
Spiller takes the hand off and heads right up the middle. At 1:58 it looks like he considers going right but plants his foot and goes left with very little gear down. Then he just circles around a couple of defenders a little bit while getting up to speed and is gone. Not a ton to say about this one other than it is up the middle. He has a nice hole but I think he shows good vision here by heading left a little and then curling back toward the center of the field so the CB can't quite get there. Not much in the way of power or moves here, just some nice vision and pure speed.
So anyway, there are the first three plays. So I'm hoping some other people can break those down or just tell us what else you saw in them or where you agreed or disagreed with my take.
Thanks!