Government Response To The Coronavirus (1 Viewer)

[Sand]

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Do you have any thoughts of your own on the matter?   

Many, but lunch is about over.  Obviously things moved from a socialist ideal to an autocratic, despotic rule.  But the theory is still there in the background - the germination, the impetus.

 

[Henry Ford]

Are they testing for it ?

Yes.

 

[Jackstraw]

For some reason I laugh at this as all I can think of as a counterpoint is "This is a big ####### deal..."

Love ya', Joe.

An overheard congratualtory aside comment directly to the President. Not a press conference to the American people. 

But you knew that.  

He's a creepy little toady. https://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/pence-mirrors-trump-clearing-his-water-bottle-from-meeting-table-1250081347911

 

[zoonation]

Many, but lunch is about over.  Obviously things moved from a socialist ideal to an autocratic, despotic rule.  But the theory is still there in the background - the germination, the impetus.

So you think western liberal democracies (outside of America) all took their “theory” from Communist Russia?  

In starting to think you don’t know what communism is.  

 

[Amused to Death]

This is a time when for profit medicine/pharmaceuticals and tens of millions of people with no health insurance coverage seems especially perverse. 

I wonder how many immigrants will delay treatment/testing for fear of deportation.

 

[Megla]

I wonder how many immigrants will delay treatment/testing for fear of deportation.

Why would an immigrant be deported

 

[HellToupee]

I wonder how many immigrants will delay treatment/testing for fear of deportation.

Why would an immigrant be deported?
 

Btw there is a distinct difference between an immigrant and an illegal immigrant 

 

[Amused to Death]

Why would an immigrant be deported

Why would an immigrant be deported?
 

Btw there is a distinct difference between an immigrant and an illegal immigrant 

Because there have been legal immigrants deported?

 

[parrot]

So you think western liberal democracies (outside of America) all took their “theory” from Communist Russia?  

In starting to think you don’t know what communism is.  

I'm sure Canada and the Nordic countries are about to go full old school Soviet Union any day now, what with their draconian national health care and all.  

 

[mrip541]

Marshall Cohen‏ @MarshallCohen 2h2 hours ago (CNN Reporter)

Rush Limbaugh and right-wing fringe sites are attacking Dr. Nancy Messonnier, a top CDC official handling the coronavirus response, because she is Rod Rosenstein's sister. They're spreading the lie that she's part of the deep state and trying to tank the markets to weaken Trump.

https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1232733193175998464

Wonder how long it'll be until they're claiming the release of the virus itself is part of the deep state conspiracy.

 

[zoonation]

I'm sure Canada and the Nordic countries are about to go full old school Soviet Union any day now, what with their draconian national health care and all.  

A little concerned that the government hasn’t released economic quotas for 2020 yet.  It is almost March.  How will we as a society know what to produce?   

 

[Megla]

Because there have been legal immigrants deported?

LOL, well I wonder why that happened, it certainly wasn't their immigration status that caused them to get deported was it?

I mean, using that logic you might as well say I wonder how many Americans will delay treatment for fear of arrest

 

[Leroy Hoard]

If only China had a wall

We should've known it was there for a reason.

 

[James Daulton]

Wonder how long it'll be until they're claiming the release of the virus itself is part of the deep state conspiracy.

Oh I'm quite sure we'll be seeing our Trump supporting friends parroting this claim before to long. 

 

[Phil Elliott]

Schumer and Pelosi are b#tching about Trump’s incompetence and not doing enough. But they don’t seem to be offering any recommendations except, its a time to work together and not politicize it; and lets throw more money at it. Just spell it for the incompetent fool you are complaining about. What would Nancy and Schumer do exactly?

 

[JAA]

And based on what we know of Sanders...

• he wouldn't have eliminated the pandemic response team or made cuts to the CDC
  
• he would have already reduced the cost of prescription drugs so there wouldn't be any worry about paying for vaccines if this becomes a real issue
  

What else am i missing?

a wall ?

 

[Stealthycat]

Just for fairness:

We have a vaccine for the flu that prevents many of the most serious strains of the flu.  Take away the flu vaccine and I wonder what the mortality is then.  

this is true

I've also read what if it mutates into an untreatable strain

 

[JAA]

Schumer and Pelosi are #####ing about Trump’s incompetence and not doing enough. But they don’t seem to be offering any recommendations except, its a time to work together and not politicize it; and lets throw more money at it. Just spell it for the incompetent fool you are complaining about. What would Nancy and Schumer do exactly?

This progressive agrees with you

 

[zoonation]

Pence’s first action: censuring the CDC (or what’s left of it).  This is going to be an epic disaster.  

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

And based on what we know of Sanders...

• he wouldn't have eliminated the pandemic response team or made cuts to the CDC
  
• he would have already reduced the cost of prescription drugs so there wouldn't be any worry about paying for vaccines if this becomes a real issue
  

What else am i missing?

He probably would have put a leading expert in charge of overseeing the response, not Mike Pence.

 

[roadkill1292]

Some discussion this morning that the Olympic Games won’t happen. That would really suck. 

The only thing that will happen is that its regularly scheduled time will pass largely unnoticed. 

 

[msommer]

Good to see you ignore Tim's comment and jump here on the obvious socialist-socialist connection.

Of course he won't kill millions of people.  He's old and has a bad heart.  I'd be surprised if he makes it through the first two years.

Hey, Pol Pot achieved killling millions in his first two years. Stalin was a slacker in the 20'ies...

 

[msommer]

a wall ?

No one needs that wall

 

[msommer]

Some discussion this morning that the Olympic Games won’t happen. That would really suck. 

Nope. I would feel sorry for some of the athletes, though.

 

[James Daulton]

Pence’s first action: censuring the CDC (or what’s left of it).  This is going to be an epic disaster.  

Censuring for curse words like "damn" and "hell"?

Or censuring for any mention of science? 

 

[jm192]

He probably would have put a leading expert in charge of overseeing the response, not Mike Pence.

Of course:  If the President or VP isn't leading it--that's bad too.  They're not taking it seriously enough.

I believe he put Pence over it to show just how seriously the white house is taking this and their commitment to it.

 

[Jackstraw]

Pence’s first action: censuring the CDC (or what’s left of it).  This is going to be an epic disaster.  

And Larry Flipping KUDLOW is on the coronavirus task force. That's all I needed to know. A financial talk show host? 

 

[joffer]

Of course:  If the President or VP isn't leading it--that's bad too.  They're not taking it seriously enough.

I believe he put Pence over it to show just how seriously the white house is taking this and their commitment to it.

man if you really think the anti-Trump posters here would say that....you've gone round the bend.

 

[Skoo]

Pence’s first action: censuring the CDC (or what’s left of it).  This is going to be an epic disaster.  

Really? What for?

 

[JbizzleMan]

Really? What for?

It sounds like they’re more concerned with spooking the markets than actually getting out information to save lives and stem the spread.

 

[Megla]

Pence’s first action: censuring the CDC (or what’s left of it).  This is going to be an epic disaster.  

You keep calling for these "epic disasters" but they never seem come to fruition, wonder why?

 

[joffer]

i'm so pissed one of the two most scientifically illiterate politicians of all time wasn't put in charge.  maybe they could have called Michelle Bachmann out of the bullpen.

 

[timschochet]

Why would an immigrant be deported?
 

Btw there is a distinct difference between an immigrant and an illegal immigrant 

Ok have it your way: so illegal immigrants avoid being tested for fear of deportation. 

How does this make us safer? 

 

[Skoo]

It sounds like they’re more concerned with spooking the markets than actually getting out information to save lives and stem the spread.

The CDC? How are they spooking the markets? By reporting the facts?

 

[roadkill1292]

As usual, Don is on top of this.

 

[timschochet]

You keep calling for these "epic disasters" but they never seem come to fruition, wonder why?

Because patriotic, heroic public health officials work overtime, beyond the call, to make up for Trump’s stupid cuts and irrational firings. So far we’ve survived. 

 

[JbizzleMan]

The CDC? How are they spooking the markets? By reporting the facts?

It would seem so. Dangerous stuff.

 

[Amused to Death]

Why would an immigrant be deported?
 

Btw there is a distinct difference between an immigrant and an illegal immigrant 

Ok have it your way: so illegal immigrants avoid being tested for fear of deportation. 

How does this make us safer? 

I was going to pose that question as well. You want limit it to *undocumented* immigrants? Fine. Just as scary. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Debbie Birx, will now be the White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator.

- I take it she will actually be running things which is good news.

 

[Megla]

As usual, Don is on top of this.

OK, that's funny

 

[Jackstraw]

It would seem so. Dangerous stuff.

The President controls information not in the best interest of the public, but in the best interest of himself? No WAY!   

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Marshall Cohen‏ @MarshallCohen 2h2 hours ago (CNN Reporter)

Rush Limbaugh and right-wing fringe sites are attacking Dr. Nancy Messonnier, a top CDC official handling the coronavirus response, because she is Rod Rosenstein's sister. They're spreading the lie that she's part of the deep state and trying to tank the markets to weaken Trump.

https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1232733193175998464

Rush Limbaugh Suggests CDC Official is Out to Get Trump Because She’s Rod Rosenstein’s Sister

 

[Jackstraw]

This is a time when for profit medicine/pharmaceuticals and tens of millions of people with no health insurance coverage seems especially perverse. 

Poeple will hold off on a diagnosis/treatmment for fear of financial ruin. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/health-care/article240476806.html

Health and human Services Secretary just couldn't commit to an afforadable vaccine because we need the private sector to profit ERRRRRR invest. 

We literally have a national crisis and we need to look out for private industry FIRST. 

NUTBALLS. Immoral.    

Hey also a nation with no universal sick leave policy makes great sense too. Got a bad cough and a fever but can't afford to not work? Suck it up and get in there Tiger!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Anthony Fauci and Anne Schuchat are two people I think we can rely on.

 

[The Commish]

Why would an immigrant be deported

Primarily because the perception is this administration doesn't seem to care if they are "illegal" or not?

 

[The Commish]

Debbie Birx, will now be the White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator.

- I take it she will actually be running things which is good news.

I heard this on NPR....all I can say is thank God....

 

[Megla]

Primarily because the perception is this administration doesn't seem to care if they are "illegal" or not?

Who's perception is that?

 

[The Commish]

Who's perception is that?

That of many immigrants.....this isn't exactly news.

 

[Megla]

That of many immigrants.....this isn't exactly news.

Care to back that up with something other than you opinion?

 

[tonydead]

I heard this on NPR....all I can say is thank God....

God didn't appoint her.