Eagles trade for #2 overall pick (1 Viewer)

[Bigboy10182000]

Browns receive:

1st and 4th this year

1st, 3rd, 4th and 7th

 

[Insein]

And a 2nd in 2018

 

[Arodin]

Seems awfully risky to do that before the Rams make their pick.  Unless they are equally thrilled with either of two players, which seems unlikely.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Oooff

 

[Run It Up]

Browns send 1.02, 2017 4th

Eagles send 1.08, 3.77, 4.100, 2017 first, 2018 second

Move back 6 spots, get an extra pick this year, an extra first next year, and an extra second the year after.

I'm convinced Cleveland will find a way to #### this up, great trade for Cleveland

 

[RUSF18]

Seems awfully risky to do that before the Rams make their pick.  Unless they are equally thrilled with either of two players, which seems unlikely.

If Browns were actively shopping the pick, it doesn't leave them much choice. 

 

[ghostguy123]

I likey

 

[Bracie Smathers]

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Eagles trade for No. 2 overall pick in 2016 NFL Draft


Posted by Darin Gantt on April 20, 2016, 1:51 PM EDT
The Eagles are going to be able to get a quarterback.

They just have to wait to see which one they get.

The team announced they had traded with the Browns for the second overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, guaranteeing them a shot at eitherJared Goff or Carson Wentz, depending on who the Rams want at No. 1.

The Eagles will give up their first-round pick (eighth overall), their third (77th) and fourth (100th), along with their 2017 first-rounder and their 2018 second-rounder. They will get the Browns’ fourth-rounder this year as well as the second pick.

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Eagles give up:

• 2016 1st round pick #8
  
• 2016 3rd round pick #77
  
• 2016 4th round pick #100 
  
• 2017 1st round pick
  
• 2018 2nd round pick
  

Browns give up:

• 2016 1st round pick #2
  
• 2016 4th round pick #99 EDIT:  The Browns give up their 2017 4th round pick, NOT their 2016 4th round pick
  

 

[ghostguy123]

So we basically got pick 8, 77, 2017 1st, and 2018 2nd(cancelling out the 4ths).

Works for me

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Nice move for both teams. Like Philly didn't stand back just because they have Bradford & Daniel already [either of which they can still move to get back pick(s)]

 

[MattFancy]

Like this for the Browns

 

[ghostguy123]

Now call the titans

 

[msudaisy26]

How much money do the Eagles have tied up in quarterbacks now?

 

[Bri]

The Eagles now have the following picks in this year’s draft:

1st Round - No. 2 overall (from Cleveland)

3rd Round - No. 79 overall (from Detroit in 2015 trade)

5th Round - No. 153 overall

5th Round - No. 164 overall (from Pittsburgh in Brandon Boykin trade)

6th Round - No. 188 overall

7th Round - No. 233 overall

7th Round - No. 251 overall (From Arizona in Matt Barkley trade)

 

[Bri]

What is this trade in terms of Kiko, Maxwell, and DeMarco? 

Like the picks they got for those players plus what other picks?

 

[Steed]

Nice move for both teams. Like Philly didn't stand back just because they have Bradford & Daniel already [either of which they can still move to get back pick(s)]

 Wouldn't they have some big cap ramifications moving either qb after just giving them big contracts?

i think this a historical blunder, going after a small school qb, albeit with great tools, that already has 2 concussions.

 

[Bri]

Kelly tried to get the #2 last year for Mariota. Some writers hated that but love this trade? Is that genuine? Or just kelly hatred? Mariota seems better than these two but I don't know

 

[Bri]

 Wouldn't they have some big cap ramifications moving either qb after just giving them big contracts?

i think this a historical blunder, going after a small school qb, albeit with great tools, that already has 2 concussions.

contract goes with them when traded

 

[zeeshan2]

Does this help Mathews(both of them?)

 

[Pipes]

Like this for the Browns

Love this for the Browns

 

[Steed]

contract goes with them when traded

Guaranteed money doesn't get accelerated against this year's cap?

 

[Insein]

How much money do the Eagles have tied up in quarterbacks now?

Since rookies don't make much the same as before.

 

[zeeshan2]

Ian Rapoport 


 
✔‎@RapSheet



The #Eagles aren't trading Sam Bradford. Instead, they created a situation where their rookie QB doesn't have to play for a year (or two).


1:12 PM - 20 Apr 2016

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The Eagles now have the following picks in this year’s draft:

1st Round - No. 2 overall (from Cleveland)

3rd Round - No. 79 overall (from Detroit in 2015 trade)

5th Round - No. 153 overall

5th Round - No. 164 overall (from Pittsburgh in Brandon Boykin trade)

6th Round - No. 188 overall

7th Round - No. 233 overall

7th Round - No. 251 overall (From Arizona in Matt Barkley trade)

When looking at this does it appear as if we gave up a ton?

Seems like a good deal for both teams

 

[Steed]

Ian Rapoport 


 
✔‎@RapSheet



The #Eagles aren't trading Sam Bradford. Instead, they created a situation where their rookie QB doesn't have to play for a year (or two).


1:12 PM - 20 Apr 2016

If that's the case, they may have just paid 2 top 10picks plus all the second and third rounders to move up 6 spots.

eagles got smoked

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Does this help Mathews(both of them?)

Maybe helps ryan because the eagles dont have alot of resources to waste on rbs in the draft now

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

contract goes with them when traded

Yes and no. Bradford got an $11M bonus and Daniel a $3M bonus which would accelerate onto this year's cap for the Eagles even if they traded either of them.

I can't see the Eagles as willing to swallow that chunk of change to move Bradford, but for Daniel that would leave another team on the hook for just $9M in guaranteed money over 2 seasons, which for someone who thinks he can be a serviceable starter, would be a bargain.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Ian Rapoport 


 
✔‎@RapSheet



The #Eagles aren't trading Sam Bradford. Instead, they created a situation where their rookie QB doesn't have to play for a year (or two).


1:12 PM - 20 Apr 2016

Dont buy this for a second. Bradford goes to sf. Nyj or denver during draft

 

[Phase of the Game]

Good trade for both...not as much pressure on Cleveland to mess up again with an early draft pick!

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

 Wouldn't they have some big cap ramifications moving either qb after just giving them big contracts?

i think this a historical blunder, going after a small school qb, albeit with great tools, that already has 2 concussions.

I'm sure the signing bonus would go to Eagles but not stating they'll necessarily deal Bradford/Daniel this year. Can't expect Wentz to be ready immediately.

As much need as their is for QBs around the league, it's a good problem for Eagles to have. Certainly better than the 3 RB debacle of last year.

 

[MattFancy]

So the real winner of this trade is RG3, right?

 

[JaxBill]

So the real winner of this trade is RG3, right?

Until the Browns use one of those picks to take Cardale Jones.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Nice move for both teams. Like Philly didn't stand back just because they have Bradford & Daniel already [either of which they can still move to get back pick(s)]

With their bloated contracts that seems doubtful, unless they get back very late picks.

 

[Bri]

Yes and no. Bradford got an $11M bonus and Daniel a $3M bonus which would accelerate onto this year's cap for the Eagles even if they traded either of them.

I can't see the Eagles as willing to swallow that chunk of change to move Bradford, but for Daniel that would leave another team on the hook for just $9M in guaranteed money over 2 seasons, which for someone who thinks he can be a serviceable starter, would be a bargain.

your numbers seem off

5.5 mil signing bonus, 4 mil roster bonus

I didn't realize the roster bonus was March not late August

So I think that means they'd eat 9.5.

I agree with your sentiment that's a lot to eat, probably too much.

Chase has 1 mil salary, 1 mil signing bonus, and 3 mil roster bonus. Is that August? End of preseason? I imagine that would (if so) be paid by a receiving team.

7+1 each of next two years

 

[Willie Neslon]

Man, I don't get this one. Kelly took all kinds of flack for wanting to deal up for mariota last year.  Now they go and do this for a qb who's nowhere near the prospect mariota was?

 

[Bri]

Guaranteed money doesn't get accelerated against this year's cap?

I was too brief, wrongly presented previous. 

13mil should go to new team, 9.5 eagles would eat

 

[MattFancy]

Until the Browns use one of those picks to take Cardale Jones.

You think Jones would play this year?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Since rookies don't make much the same as before.

Mariota made $4.5MM last season with $24,213,974 fully guaranteed over the contract.

 

[Insein]

Mariota made $4.5MM last season with $24,213,974 fully guaranteed over the contract.

I have faith that Howie knows how the cap works.

 

[Bri]

Mariota made $4.5MM last season with $24,213,974 fully guaranteed over the contract.

Yeah it's all slotted. Within a small window of error, you could predict what every rookie will make with the draft scale.

 

[Braktastic]

Until the Browns use one of those picks to take Cardale Jones. see RG3 play.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

I was too brief, wrongly presented previous. 

13mil should go to new team, 9.5 eagles would eat

No math on my part - pulling the numbers straight from OTC - don't know if they're 100% accurate of course:


Player
(71 total)


Base Salary
(Guaranteed)


Bonuses


Cap
Number


 


Dead Money & Cap Savings
Trade


Prorated


Roster


Workout


Other


Sam Bradford


$7,000,000
$7,000,000


$5,500,000


$0


$0


$0


$12,500,000


 


$11,000,000


$1,500,000


Jason Peters


$8,050,000
$1,000,000


$1,000,000


$500,000


$250,000


$0


$9,737,500


 


$3,000,000


$6,737,500


Lane Johnson


$675,000
$3,112,242


$5,016,146


$2,437,242


$0


$0


$8,128,388


 


$13,016,146


($4,887,758)


Fletcher Cox


$7,799,000
$7,799,000


$0


$0


$0


$0


$7,799,000


 


$0


$7,799,000


Connor Barwin


$6,750,000
$3,000,000


$600,000


$0


$0


$0


$7,350,000


 


$1,200,000


$6,150,000


Malcolm Jenkins


$2,500,000
$2,500,000


$3,166,668


$0


$0


$0


$5,666,668


 


$9,166,668


($3,500,000)


Jason Kelce


$4,000,000
$2,602,000


$1,200,000


$0


$0


$0


$5,200,000


 


$3,600,000


$1,600,000


Brandon Graham


$4,000,000
$4,000,000


$1,000,000


$0


$0


$0


$5,000,000


 


$3,000,000


$2,000,000


Chase Daniel


$1,000,000
$4,000,000


$1,000,000


$3,000,000


$0


$0


$5,000,000


 


$3,000,000


$2,000,000

It's entirely possible they don't think Wentz is pro-ready either and don't plan to play him at all this season, in which case this is a moot point anyway.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The big loser in all of it is Laremy Tunsil. Goes from probable #1 overall to possibly outside of top 5.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Man, I don't get this one. Kelly took all kinds of flack for wanting to deal up for mariota last year.  Now they go and do this for a qb who's nowhere near the prospect mariota was?

Except quite a few have both ranked higher than Mariota...

 

[Bri]

No math on my part - pulling the numbers straight from OTC - don't know if they're 100% accurate of course:


Player
(71 total)


Base Salary
(Guaranteed)


Bonuses


Cap
Number


 


Dead Money & Cap Savings
Trade


Prorated


Roster


Workout


Other


Sam Bradford


$7,000,000
$7,000,000


$5,500,000


$0


$0


$0


$12,500,000


 


$11,000,000


$1,500,000


Jason Peters


$8,050,000
$1,000,000


$1,000,000


$500,000


$250,000


$0


$9,737,500


 


$3,000,000


$6,737,500


Lane Johnson


$675,000
$3,112,242


$5,016,146


$2,437,242


$0


$0


$8,128,388


 


$13,016,146


($4,887,758)


Fletcher Cox


$7,799,000
$7,799,000


$0


$0


$0


$0


$7,799,000


 


$0


$7,799,000


Connor Barwin


$6,750,000
$3,000,000


$600,000


$0


$0


$0


$7,350,000


 


$1,200,000


$6,150,000


Malcolm Jenkins


$2,500,000
$2,500,000


$3,166,668


$0


$0


$0


$5,666,668


 


$9,166,668


($3,500,000)


Jason Kelce


$4,000,000
$2,602,000


$1,200,000


$0


$0


$0


$5,200,000


 


$3,600,000


$1,600,000


Brandon Graham


$4,000,000
$4,000,000


$1,000,000


$0


$0


$0


$5,000,000


 


$3,000,000


$2,000,000


Chase Daniel


$1,000,000
$4,000,000


$1,000,000


$3,000,000


$0


$0


$5,000,000


 


$3,000,000


$2,000,000

It's entirely possible they don't think Wentz is pro-ready either and don't plan to play him at all this season, in which case this is a moot point anyway.

I apologize. I ...I don't know I put 2017 and 2016 notes together and messed this up.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/sam-bradford/

I totally botched this

 

[zeeshan2]

Ed Wood ‎@Edwin_IV


The #eagles essentially traded two 1sts, two 2nds, a 3rd, a 4th, Byron Maxwell, and Kiko Alonzo to go from 13 to 2. That's insane


1:03 PM - 20 Apr 2016

 

[Bri]

Except quite a few have both ranked higher than Mariota...

Did you notice this before the Rams trade?

I saw a couple change and I was...wait a second

 

[Willie Neslon]

Except quite a few have both ranked higher than Mariota...

Seemed just a little while ago some scouts didn't even think Wentz was a 1st rounder. Goff wasn't #1 overall on any mocks.  What are the odds both guys pan out?  15%?

 

[RUSF18]

Jeff Darlington @JeffDarlington

Howie makes point about future drafts I've heard from a number of NFL offices: QB position looks murky in next couple drafts after this one.

If I was an Eagles fan, this thought process would terrify me.

 

[Kiddnets]

Bradford is hugely overpaid....I doubt he gets moved at all.  Very questionable move by the Eagles but I do like the rookie QB being able to sit and learn for at least a full season.  That is a rare thing that usually pays off.