I think it's just right myself.Can you assist me in determining the value of SMITH-NJIGBA in a 1 QB, PPR 12-team league when trading for him? I am offering 1.10, is that too low or too high? just right?
Good thoughts, I was looking at Aaron Jones as well though he has a lot of uncertainty in the offenseHenry and Mixon are popular choices, I appreciate Pollard's value, he was surprisingly affordable in some leagues where I picked him up.
A.Jones is another affordable choice. I believe that after the NFL draft, there might be 2-3 more running backs available at discounted prices.Good thoughts, I was looking at Aaron Jones as well though he has a lot of uncertainty in the offenseHenry and Mixon are popular choices, I appreciate Pollard's value, he was surprisingly affordable in some leagues where I picked him up.
Not going out on a limb to suggest that's most people's dynasty RB1 and TE1 so interesting.FFPC, which is TEP who does everyone prefer - Bijan or Laporta?
I typically like to build my teams around WR and TE and mix in older cheaper RBs but we are talking about Bijan so I am unsure myself
Have you got a gauge on how people are valuing Josh Jacobs with Green Bay? Value dipping given 2nd team deal and drop off in production or excitement about the new offense?A.Jones is another affordable choice. I believe that after the NFL draft, there might be 2-3 more running backs available at discounted prices.Good thoughts, I was looking at Aaron Jones as well though he has a lot of uncertainty in the offenseHenry and Mixon are popular choices, I appreciate Pollard's value, he was surprisingly affordable in some leagues where I picked him up.
I think Dallas making an aggressive move for a RB could push Bowers back a spot. Especially if Bowers ends up in Indy where they are likely to have a low pass volume offense with a lot of rushes going to the QB and RB, a target hog possession WR and a talented young slot WR.So in 1 QB leagues the pretty obvious consensus top 4 guys are MH, Nabers, Odunze, and Bowers.
What if anything realistic on draft day could change that?
There are only a few RB1s left in the NFL landscape, and Bjan is definitely one of them. TEP has raised Laporta's value to match Bjan's, but I truly believe Bjan is set to shine this season and establish himself as a top RB for years to come. Despite that, Laporta remains my top choice. In my TEP leagues, it's always a struggle to even start discussions about trading for a top TE - it usually requires offering a significant amount of value. In my experience, acquiring a top TE is much more challenging than getting a top RB.FFPC, which is TEP who does everyone prefer - Bijan or Laporta?
I typically like to build my teams around WR and TE and mix in older cheaper RBs but we are talking about Bijan so I am unsure myself
I'm a bit surprised that I haven't come across any favorable deals involving Jacobs in my leagues. Many are still holding onto the hope that his numbers will improve, and match his performance two years ago.Have you got a gauge on how people are valuing Josh Jacobs with Green Bay? Value given 2nd team deal and drop off in production or excitement about the new offense?A.Jones is another affordable choice. I believe that after the NFL draft, there might be 2-3 more running backs available at discounted prices.Good thoughts, I was looking at Aaron Jones as well though he has a lot of uncertainty in the offenseHenry and Mixon are popular choices, I appreciate Pollard's value, he was surprisingly affordable in some leagues where I picked him up.
That is fair. Also, one could make a pretty fair case for Bijan vs Breece vs Gibbs as RB1. LaPorta seems pretty locked in at TE1.There are only a few RB1s left in the NFL landscape, and Bjan is definitely one of them. TEP has raised Laporta's value to match Bjan's, but I truly believe Bjan is set to shine this season and establish himself as a top RB for years to come. Despite that, Laporta remains my top choice. In my TEP leagues, it's always a struggle to even start discussions about trading for a top TE - it usually requires offering a significant amount of value. In my experience, acquiring a top TE is much more challenging than getting a top RB.FFPC, which is TEP who does everyone prefer - Bijan or Laporta?
I typically like to build my teams around WR and TE and mix in older cheaper RBs but we are talking about Bijan so I am unsure myself
I look at Dallas taking someone like a Brooks, Benson type in round 2 and the Bills grabbing a Brian Thomas Jr as specific/realistic examples. In both cases this seems realistic/possible even if you added some other RB's and WR's to these teams. Its the ideal landing spots to change value, would think even if the consensus 4 held as a whole you'd see players who landed in these spots in those rounds creep into the top 4 in at least some places.I think Dallas making an aggressive move for a RB could push Bowers back a spot. Especially if Bowers ends up in Indy where they are likely to have a low pass volume offense with a lot of rushes going to the QB and RB, a target hog possession WR and a talented young slot WR.So in 1 QB leagues the pretty obvious consensus top 4 guys are MH, Nabers, Odunze, and Bowers.
What if anything realistic on draft day could change that?
Warren, chubaIf you have a win now team, who are the RBs you target for cheap?
I have Bijan in a league & wouldn’t move him for LaPorta - and I love me some LaPorta.There are only a few RB1s left in the NFL landscape, and Bjan is definitely one of them. TEP has raised Laporta's value to match Bjan's, but I truly believe Bjan is set to shine this season and establish himself as a top RB for years to come. Despite that, Laporta remains my top choice. In my TEP leagues, it's always a struggle to even start discussions about trading for a top TE - it usually requires offering a significant amount of value. In my experience, acquiring a top TE is much more challenging than getting a top RB.FFPC, which is TEP who does everyone prefer - Bijan or Laporta?
I typically like to build my teams around WR and TE and mix in older cheaper RBs but we are talking about Bijan so I am unsure myself
Ok, I really like this answer. We are talking cheap here for sure.Warren, chubaIf you have a win now team, who are the RBs you target for cheap?
RS might still be a buy low but likely not cheap.
Also dudes in CHI behind Swift.
I think it's just right myself.Can you assist me in determining the value of SMITH-NJIGBA in a 1 QB, PPR 12-team league when trading for him? I am offering 1.10, is that too low or too high? just right?
He's probably be my WR5 if I had to line them up and draft right now but he's not in what I'd view as an overly great situation and I expect with some post-draft clarity the odds are higher he'll fall lower then higher from that spot. Mix in a few RB's, Bowers and a maybe your league typically sees a QB or two go that high and all in all it seems right to me, right in the sense if you threw him back in the draft that's the range I think he'd go, give or take a pick or two.
Ok, I really like this answer. We are talking cheap here for sure.Warren, chubaIf you have a win now team, who are the RBs you target for cheap?
RS might still be a buy low but likely not cheap.
Also dudes in CHI behind Swift.
Ok, I really like this answer. We are talking cheap here for sure.Warren, chubaIf you have a win now team, who are the RBs you target for cheap?
RS might still be a buy low but likely not cheap.
Also dudes in CHI behind Swift.
FFPC, which is TEP who does everyone prefer - Bijan or Laporta?
I typically like to build my teams around WR and TE and mix in older cheaper RBs but we are talking about Bijan so I am unsure myself
You trying to tell me something?If we're looking at the best RB you might be able to get straight up for LaPorta, I'd probably say Gibbs.
Where does McBride fall in dynasty TE ranks for everyone? What would you be willing to give up for him in a 1.5 TE Premium that you can start multiple TE’s?
I’m trying to work on the McBride owner in my league and I’m considering Ferguson, 2025 1st and 2nd.
Edit: current TE room: Pitts, Ferguson, Musgrave, Chig
I agree Bijan is superior asset even in TEP. As a result I was able to move Bijan, AJ Brown, Allgeier and Cade Otton and got Laporta, Garrett Wilson, 1.07 and 2.02 in return.FFPC, which is TEP who does everyone prefer - Bijan or Laporta?
I typically like to build my teams around WR and TE and mix in older cheaper RBs but we are talking about Bijan so I am unsure myself
Purely in terms of trade value, I'm taking Bijan. In FFPC, the perception, to me, has always been that RB1 >>> TE1, even if it's TE-premium. In the shorter windows in which I like to work in FFPC, I think Bijan will hold his value better. TEs ebb and flow too much. Even Jonathan Taylor, who was RB1 at one point but has had two disappointing seasons in a row, is still a top-5 RB in startups.
If we're looking at the best RB you might be able to get straight up for LaPorta, I'd probably say Gibbs.
Late to the party, but I have darnold in the 2.09-3.01 range assuming 12 team SF. I can see a path to serviceability, but I can also see him out of the league next season. I've always kinda routed for the guy because I think he was absolutely traumatized by his time with the Jets, but he needs to start producing or he'll be bagging groceries next season.Value check on Sam Darnold?
Subject to dramatic swing depending on the NFL draft I’m assuming?
While I admit I don’t know the IDP value of Thib I think in TE+ Kincaid slightly > AJB Puts me in “I’ll take door # 1” please. (A)16 team PPR, SF, TE-P, IDP
Which side ya like?
A - Kincaid + Tee Higgins + 2026 2nd (likely mid, but who knows)
-or-
B - AJB + Thibadeaux + 2026 1st (likey
late but who knows)
Thib is a 23 y/o considered top 10 DE. Definitely a valuable IDP asset, especially in “big play” scoring systems. E.g. capable of 40+ point games with SFL, TFL, etc,While I admit I don’t know the IDP value of Thib I think in TE+ Kincaid slightly > AJB Puts me in “I’ll take door # 1” please. (A)16 team PPR, SF, TE-P, IDP
Which side ya like?
A - Kincaid + Tee Higgins + 2026 2nd (likely mid, but who knows)
-or-
B - AJB + Thibadeaux + 2026 1st (likey
late but who knows)
The mid 2 late 1 is minor
Great trade for you. In my home league give me LaPorta for the next 11 years over Bijan for the next 6 years. I got Wilson over Brown but the 2 picks put it severely on your side. But my home league only need 1 RB and can start 3 TEs instead. RBs are going 15th pick overall at earliest this year. Sanders, Sinnott, Johnson might go ahead if better draft capital and landing spot over Brooks, Benson, Wright or Corum.I agree Bijan is superior asset even in TEP. As a result I was able to move Bijan, AJ Brown, Allgeier and Cade Otton and got Laporta, Garrett Wilson, 1.07 and 2.02 in return.FFPC, which is TEP who does everyone prefer - Bijan or Laporta?
I typically like to build my teams around WR and TE and mix in older cheaper RBs but we are talking about Bijan so I am unsure myself
Purely in terms of trade value, I'm taking Bijan. In FFPC, the perception, to me, has always been that RB1 >>> TE1, even if it's TE-premium. In the shorter windows in which I like to work in FFPC, I think Bijan will hold his value better. TEs ebb and flow too much. Even Jonathan Taylor, who was RB1 at one point but has had two disappointing seasons in a row, is still a top-5 RB in startups.
If we're looking at the best RB you might be able to get straight up for LaPorta, I'd probably say Gibbs.
In my home league scoring giv3 me the Kincaid side easily. TE just so hard to find. DE with MFL putting edge rushers there is easy to find. Bowers going top 5 in upcoming rookie in my mocks. Sanders, Sinnott are between 14-25 depending on capital and spot. Turner/Verse/Murphy/Chop starting at 33 to 40 depending on how Off lines up16 team PPR, SF, TE-P, IDP
Which side ya like?
A - Kincaid + Tee Higgins + 2026 2nd (likely mid, but who knows)
-or-
B - AJB + Thibadeaux + 2026 1st (likey
late but who knows)
I think at least one of the big 4 (includes Bowers) is going to be drafted by a team with an anemic passing game, and that will tank their value. Meanwhile, if the Bolts takes one of the big 4 that guy probably challenges MHJr for the 1.01.So in 1 QB leagues the pretty obvious consensus top 4 guys are MH, Nabers, Odunze, and Bowers.
What if anything realistic on draft day could change that?
I think at least one of the big 4 (includes Bowers) is going to be drafted by a team with an anemic passing game, and that will tank their value. Meanwhile, if the Bolts takes one of the big 4 that guy probably challenges MHJr for the 1.01.So in 1 QB leagues the pretty obvious consensus top 4 guys are MH, Nabers, Odunze, and Bowers.
What if anything realistic on draft day could change that?
The Bills and Chiefs probably end up with WRs from the second tier, and that is going to excite the FF world. I mean, Xavier Worthy on the Bills, or Brian Thomas on the Chiefs, vs Nabers on the Giants?
B16 team SF TE-P
A. AJ Brown + 2026 1st
B. Minshew + DJ Moore + Kyle Pitts
Which side do you like?
A16 team PPR, SF, TE-P, IDP
Which side ya like?
A - Kincaid + Tee Higgins + 2026 2nd (likely mid, but who knows)
-or-
B - AJB + Thibadeaux + 2026 1st (likey
late but who knows)
AA16 team PPR, SF, TE-P, IDP
Which side ya like?
A - Kincaid + Tee Higgins + 2026 2nd (likely mid, but who knows)
-or-
B - AJB + Thibadeaux + 2026 1st (likey
late but who knows)
Same. I’ve got the 1.09 in a 1QB and am either trying to move up to 4-5 or out of the 1st completely.I’m not sure why, but I’m suddenly very luke warm on almost this entire class now. It just seems like the landing spots aren’t the greatest, and a lot of these guys are falling in behind legit vets.
I’ve lost my 2024 rookie mojo.
I'm very opposite, I'm really liking this rookie draft now. Lots of offensive players went 1st round in the NFL draft and many to teams of need. I think the landing spots are good due to need. Moreover there will be some very very good players available at the top/mid second round of rookie drafts.I’m not sure why, but I’m suddenly very luke warm on almost this entire class now. It just seems like the landing spots aren’t the greatest, and a lot of these guys are falling in behind legit vets.
I’ve lost my 2024 rookie mojo.
If you can indeed get Caleb at 1.02 that would be great for your team. I don't think you can go wrong with adding Caleb who should be put in a great position to succeed. I think it is a fair deal but I would be fine if you stayed with your 2 picks too.Edited to add: made the trade
Was offered 1.02 for my 1.06 and 1.12 in a SF TE+ large bench league. 100% rebuild team. I think the trade value is there to make this deal, but I really could use warm bodies, especially at QB.
Pre draft I was looking at odunze at 1.06, JJM at 1.07 and bpa at 1.12 with the idea that I won't really compete until 2026.
Now, though there's a significant chance that 4 QBs and MHJ will be gone before my pick which leaves me with Nabers/Odunze at 1.06, BPA at 1.07 and maybe Bo Nix at 1.12.
If I make the trade, the 1.02 spot is pretty desirable. Dude with the 1.01 has 3 solid starting QBs so he may take MHJ.
Still confused on the direct to take. Any words of wisdom?
2.3 will land a good player who pays dividends now, so I can see rejecting that. But if you are in good shape and can wait on Fields, I do think long term the 2.3 for him is a fair if not good price to buy.Was offered 2.03 for Fields in 16 team SF
Very tempting but I rejected. Should I have?
You are echoing the things that were and have been running through my mind! If, indeed the 1.01 takes Caleb then I'll happily take a share of MHJ with the 1.02 and sweat profusely over QB until the 1.07. I'd suspect one of Maye or JJM will be there at the 1.07. If for some reason both are gone, then I'll likely try to trade back into the upper second and snag Nix. I guess I could also punt taking a QB until 2025, but that pushes out the timeline for contending a year or two.If you can indeed get Caleb at 1.02 that would be great for your team. I don't think you can go wrong with adding Caleb who should be put in a great position to succeed. I think it is a fair deal but I would be fine if you stayed with your 2 picks too.Edited to add: made the trade
Was offered 1.02 for my 1.06 and 1.12 in a SF TE+ large bench league. 100% rebuild team. I think the trade value is there to make this deal, but I really could use warm bodies, especially at QB.
Pre draft I was looking at odunze at 1.06, JJM at 1.07 and bpa at 1.12 with the idea that I won't really compete until 2026.
Now, though there's a significant chance that 4 QBs and MHJ will be gone before my pick which leaves me with Nabers/Odunze at 1.06, BPA at 1.07 and maybe Bo Nix at 1.12.
If I make the trade, the 1.02 spot is pretty desirable. Dude with the 1.01 has 3 solid starting QBs so he may take MHJ.
Still confused on the direct to take. Any words of wisdom?
There is still a chance a QB is there at 1.06 and if not Nabers and then maybe Bowers at 1.07 could set you up long term with good weapons. Then take Penix or Nix at 1.12 for your QB.
All depends if adding 2 players is better for your team and league considering it has big benches. The question comes though if Caleb is gone at 1.01 what do you do with 1.02? you probably would have rather had 1.06 and 1.12. I think it really depends if Caleb is that 100% guaranteed. If not I'd stay put and see what drops at 1.06.
I've got Fields valued as a 24 mid 2nd rounder, so I think you could argue it both ways. Trade and take the value now (possibly Nix, Coleman, Pennix). Those guys, especiallly Coleman and Nix excite me more than Fields at the moment. On the other hand, holding until he takes the reigns would certainly yield more value, even if it's just the excitement of him starting in 2025 when PIT jettisons Russ.Was offered 2.03 for Fields in 16 team SF
Very tempting but I rejected. Should I have?
Might not hurt to send a message to 1.01 guy and see if they might share who they are taking? Like you said too Maye or JJ might drop if someone doesn't like the landing spot (Maye) or the player (JJ).You are echoing the things that were and have been running through my mind! If, indeed the 1.01 takes Caleb then I'll happily take a share of MHJ with the 1.02 and sweat profusely over QB until the 1.07. I'd suspect one of Maye or JJM will be there at the 1.07. If for some reason both are gone, then I'll likely try to trade back into the upper second and snag Nix. I guess I could also punt taking a QB until 2025, but that pushes out the timeline for contending a year or two.If you can indeed get Caleb at 1.02 that would be great for your team. I don't think you can go wrong with adding Caleb who should be put in a great position to succeed. I think it is a fair deal but I would be fine if you stayed with your 2 picks too.Edited to add: made the trade
Was offered 1.02 for my 1.06 and 1.12 in a SF TE+ large bench league. 100% rebuild team. I think the trade value is there to make this deal, but I really could use warm bodies, especially at QB.
Pre draft I was looking at odunze at 1.06, JJM at 1.07 and bpa at 1.12 with the idea that I won't really compete until 2026.
Now, though there's a significant chance that 4 QBs and MHJ will be gone before my pick which leaves me with Nabers/Odunze at 1.06, BPA at 1.07 and maybe Bo Nix at 1.12.
If I make the trade, the 1.02 spot is pretty desirable. Dude with the 1.01 has 3 solid starting QBs so he may take MHJ.
Still confused on the direct to take. Any words of wisdom?
There is still a chance a QB is there at 1.06 and if not Nabers and then maybe Bowers at 1.07 could set you up long term with good weapons. Then take Penix or Nix at 1.12 for your QB.
All depends if adding 2 players is better for your team and league considering it has big benches. The question comes though if Caleb is gone at 1.01 what do you do with 1.02? you probably would have rather had 1.06 and 1.12. I think it really depends if Caleb is that 100% guaranteed. If not I'd stay put and see what drops at 1.06.
I'm with ya'll but would imagine this conversation is very different in one QB leagues vs others, and to that was we know not all one QB leagues are equal. In the 12 team smaller roster sizes I play they just not that valuable.Same. I’ve got the 1.09 in a 1QB and am either trying to move up to 4-5 or out of the 1st completely.I’m not sure why, but I’m suddenly very luke warm on almost this entire class now. It just seems like the landing spots aren’t the greatest, and a lot of these guys are falling in behind legit vets.
I’ve lost my 2024 rookie mojo.
I would pay 2.03 for him.2.3 will land a good player who pays dividends now, so I can see rejecting that. But if you are in good shape and can wait on Fields, I do think long term the 2.3 for him is a fair if not good price to buy.Was offered 2.03 for Fields in 16 team SF
Very tempting but I rejected. Should I have?