gianmarco
Footballguy
Just looked and his pack actually has a water bottle holder that you can reach easily from the side. Will likely go that route.
The pack is also reservoir compatible so I only need to get a bladder if we opt that route.
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Campingguys -- Any and all advice welcome for upcoming trip (1 Viewer)
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The pack is also reservoir compatible so I only need to get a bladder if we opt that route.
Jaysus
Good times!
I usually carry two bottles with me... I keep a 1L bottle in that pocket and use an AquaClip to keep a 750ml on a shoulder strap. My shoulders do not like reaching back to that pocket for anything other than refills of the smaller bottle. (I also carry a 2L dirty water bag that I use for filtering or long water carries.
gianmarco
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Looks awesome. Are you dropping him off?
If so, this place is a must. Thai me up. Melvin brewery, with awesome Thai food.
If so, this place is a must. Thai me up. Melvin brewery, with awesome Thai food.
gianmarco
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
My daughter went to maui this year, On her own. Also her first time, She loved it.
She went to see the cousin, that she’s going to camp with.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Will there be females his age on the trip?
He's 16--a condom or two may be wise.
Now, I would put the odds of a bear attack and him getting lucky in the woods as equal. But I bet one of the counselors will bring bear spray--so make sure your son is prepared for the other possibility.
He's 16--a condom or two may be wise.
Now, I would put the odds of a bear attack and him getting lucky in the woods as equal. But I bet one of the counselors will bring bear spray--so make sure your son is prepared for the other possibility.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Yes, just the bladder. Trust me. Go this route. Much easier to sip and drink while hiking. And if he's at altitude, he will want to be drinking often.
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
Has anyone mentioned the name Steve yet?
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
Osaurus
Footballguy
Same with me. Went to school out there and took a while acclimating from 200 feet to 7,200 feet of elevation. And then I went to Rocky Mtn Natl Park. 
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Is he taking the Owen Spalding route to the summit of Grand Teton? That’s the easiest route I believe, but it still requires roped climbing. And if he’s never been at altitude, ~14k feet will be tough. Although I’m sure they’ll account for acclimatization, you may want to get him some Diamox. Everyone handles altitude differently, but he’ll surely feel some symptoms if he spends any time above 8-10k feet.gianmarco said:
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I rarely wear hiking boots, but someone unaccustomed to hiking uneven terrain with a reasonably heavy pack is an ankle sprain waiting to happen.BassNBrew said:
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Most modern packs have a sleeve for a hydration bladder. It’d definitely get one, probably 3L as you have a ton of insensible losses at elevation in dry climates.gianmarco said:
Don’t get me wrong, I’d bring an insulated bottle as well, but it’s nice to keep moving while you drink, as establishing a consistent pace without a ton of stops is crucial in mountaineering.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Oh my gawd I'm so jealous. Always wanted to do a back country hike up around the summit of the Tetons.gianmarco said:
I'm sure the guides have everything covered but I know 'some parts' of those climbs require crampons since some go over ice fields.
And he'll definitely be in griz country on that hike. I've camped in the Tetons before in the back country and without any doubt he will be in griz country.
Also he is going to be in one of the best places in the lower 48 for night sky viewing if they catch clear skies at night. Even if it weighs a couple of pounds look into camera gear that gets a low enough exposure with a slow pan that he can set up and point to the stars to get a shot THIS
BassNBrew
Footballguy
INov8 is a nice shoe. I've raced in the standard Roclites.DaVinci said:
Looks like I'm in the minority, but i just don't see it. I roll my ankle on cracks in the sidewalk or during gentle breeze and wouldn't consider boots for long hikes. I've worn boots turkey hunting the Appalachians and must prefer the train shoes for day treks. I think once you add in the trekking poles the ankle concerns go completely away. The suggestion above is a nice compromise. Nothing worse than hiking in waterlogged boots.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Have you ever hiked on scree/talus?
I am blessed with cankles which are virtually indestructible, but I wouldn’t backpack in the mountains with trail runners.
Agree the Innov8s + poles is a good compromise. There’s also a decent chance he’ll encounter some ice/snow, cross streams, etc. so whatever he uses should probably be waterproof.
ETA not trying to be argumentative, and it seems he’s already chosen his footwear, so all of this is moot anyway
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Correct on your last statement, still an interesting discussion.
No to your first question. More roots and rocks here. More of a premium on foot placement and agility than powering through that stuff/debris. We get a lot of summer thunderstorms in the east. Waterproof boots are great for snow but are no match for storms and streams. With the humidity it takes forever for things to dry. Probably a regional thing as I see as many trail shoes as boots on the AP trail.
gianmarco
Footballguy
These are the shoes we got when they were on sale for under $100. Definitely not changing shoes at this point.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but those stupid looking toe socks are great at preventing blisters. Injini is one brand I've used.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Rustoleum
Footballguy
Love my Keens, but I need to replace them. I walk a little on the outsides of my feet and I finally cut up the sole a little on one of them because of it. Might wanna add some shoe goo to the packing list if the guides don’t include it in the group gear.
Rustoleum
Footballguy
Somehow my son has managed to lose the left sock of three pairs of those and he refuses to just turn one of the other ones inside out.
gianmarco
Footballguy
He comes home Friday. Can't wait to hear. I otherwise have no idea right now except some pictures. He looks happy, though.
Jaysus
Good times!
Let us know what you find out, I am curious to hear how things went for him... the weather sounds like it may have made things interesting.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Oh, definitely. Not sure what you mean on the weather. Warm/hot during the day, cool at night, but I thought that was expected.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
it was 103 degrees, at 9:30am, when i dropped my daughter off on the 27th.gianmarco said:
it has since cooled off, into the 90's.same deal, seems happy in pics. lots and lots of pics of the kids in the water.
pick her up Saturday. excited to hear about her 2 weeks.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
I think we'd all love to see some posed pictures if possible. 
gianmarco
Footballguy
Here's some pictures taken that don't show the kid's faces.
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
It looks like some were taken from Yellowstone and I can tell they hiked on the Western side of the Tetons.
Have to post some more when you can.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
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Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
Do they always hike in the same order or did he just happen to follow pink shorts for two pics?
Osaurus
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
Poke_4_Life
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SteelCurtain
Footballguy
This is so awesome. I have a feeling this experience will have transformed him permanently.
My son and I did a 12 day backpacking trip in 2019. When I asked the kids where they wanted to go on vacation this summer, my oldest said he wanted to explore some national parks. As a dad, this made me tear up. So we are heading to Zion and Bryce Canyon in a few weeks. (Yes, I know it will be hot, but this is what he picked.)
I can't wait to hear how @gianmarco Jr felt about this trip.
gianmarco
Footballguy
He got back yesterday.
Overall, had a great trip. Parts of the outdoor experience he wasn't a fan of. The hiking through backcountry as well as the kayaking. That said, he said it was beautiful. No issues with the physical part of it with one exception. All the gear we got worked out well. He didn't use the trekking poles but did use everything else. The entire trip went smoothly for the whole group. Heard stories of waking up to a moose 20ft from their tents to eating tons of peanut butter to getting charcoal from a tree on him while trying to poop.
The one thing he couldn't finish was the summit of Grand Teton. He got within 200 ft but then apparently was pretty sick from the altitude and couldn't walk in a straight line. He had to head back down at that point with one of the other campers who had the same thing. That was the only physical part that didn't go well.
But, the best part he said was the friendships he made. They've all been chatting with each other since they got back. He said all the kids were awesome and they all got along great and became friends from the start. The two leaders were also great. That's the part that made me the happiest.
After not showering for almost two weeks, he surprisingly didn't smell in the car on the way home. His bag, unfortunately, got tagged incorrectly and ended up in DC. They were able to locate it and we got it back this morning. The one it got switched with was some kid that was going to DC for the start of a camping trip. Delta called that mother when they realized what happened and she was freaking out. Felt bad for them. Luckily for us it happened at the end of the trip so it didn't matter at all.
Anyway, great experience and hopefully provide memories that'll last a long time.
Thanks to all here for the advice to help make it awesome.
Overall, had a great trip. Parts of the outdoor experience he wasn't a fan of. The hiking through backcountry as well as the kayaking. That said, he said it was beautiful. No issues with the physical part of it with one exception. All the gear we got worked out well. He didn't use the trekking poles but did use everything else. The entire trip went smoothly for the whole group. Heard stories of waking up to a moose 20ft from their tents to eating tons of peanut butter to getting charcoal from a tree on him while trying to poop.
The one thing he couldn't finish was the summit of Grand Teton. He got within 200 ft but then apparently was pretty sick from the altitude and couldn't walk in a straight line. He had to head back down at that point with one of the other campers who had the same thing. That was the only physical part that didn't go well.
But, the best part he said was the friendships he made. They've all been chatting with each other since they got back. He said all the kids were awesome and they all got along great and became friends from the start. The two leaders were also great. That's the part that made me the happiest.
After not showering for almost two weeks, he surprisingly didn't smell in the car on the way home. His bag, unfortunately, got tagged incorrectly and ended up in DC. They were able to locate it and we got it back this morning. The one it got switched with was some kid that was going to DC for the start of a camping trip. Delta called that mother when they realized what happened and she was freaking out. Felt bad for them. Luckily for us it happened at the end of the trip so it didn't matter at all.
Anyway, great experience and hopefully provide memories that'll last a long time.
Thanks to all here for the advice to help make it awesome.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Heh... It was fine. Yeah, a decent chunk of the trip, and it wasn't that he hated it, but it was just a lot of it. He enjoyed the climbing. He enjoyed the white water rafting. And the stuff they saw while hiking was pretty amazing, he said.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Glad he had a great trip. Too bad he just missed the Teton summit - if he ever desires to try something like that again, Diamox does wonders to mitigate AMS.
I have a friend who attempted Maura Kea (13,600 ft) multiple times, only to be turned back at 12k with headache, nausea and vomiting. He finally took acetazolamide prophylactically when we went, and easily submitted. I guess some people consider it a PED, but there’s enough suffering intrinsic to mountaineering, I don’t see much harm doing what you can to make it more pleasant.
I have a friend who attempted Maura Kea (13,600 ft) multiple times, only to be turned back at 12k with headache, nausea and vomiting. He finally took acetazolamide prophylactically when we went, and easily submitted. I guess some people consider it a PED, but there’s enough suffering intrinsic to mountaineering, I don’t see much harm doing what you can to make it more pleasant.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
You know he will regret not reaching the summit so plan on a trip. 200 feet, ugh.gianmarco said:
That is it. Things don't matter but memories remain forever.
Oh and more pictures please.
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