Adult Woman and Teenage boys (1 Viewer)

[dhockster]

I have been noticing a lot more items in the news about female teachers having sex with their teenage male students.

Now, today, is the story of the ex-cheerleader, 47, having sex with a 15 year old.

All this seemed somewhat amusing from the outside because, you know, what teenage boy would not want to have sex with an adult woman?

Last week, this hit closer to home, and it has had devastating consequences. My wife is friends with a couple who co-pastor a protestant church in Arkansas. It is a small church (several hundred members),

and the couple do the majority of work at the church. They just found out the part-time or volunteer Youth leader, a woman, was sexually abusing their own teenage son. I am not privy to all the details, but apparently this had gone on for awhile before the boy finally came to his parents and told them what was going on. The couple has had to take a leave of absence from the Church. When the story was told to the congregation one of the men in attendance commented "what's the big deal? The boy got laid". The couple doesn't know if they will be able to continue working at the Church, which in turn may cause the Church to shut down.

I think there is definitely something going on in our society with woman becoming more sexualized. The youth pastor at my Church in Houston has told me that porn is not just a problem with teenage boys but teenage girls as well. I think School districts are going to have to start addressing the age of the woman teaching high school as many of the cases we are hearing about are woman in their 20's with 15-17 year old boys. I wonder how soon it will be before the head-shrinking industry to come up with some sort of name or "syndrome" for this condition.

I am the only one who thinks we are going to see more and more of this? Any thoughts on what society could do to prevent this?

And no, I don't have any pictures.

 

[Henry Ford]

I have been noticing a lot more items in the news about female teachers having sex with their teenage male students.

Now, today, is the story of the ex-cheerleader, 47, having sex with a 15 year old.

All this seemed somewhat amusing from the outside because, you know, what teenage boy would not want to have sex with an adult woman?

Last week, this hit closer to home, and it has had devastating consequences. My wife is friends with a couple who co-pastor a protestant church in Arkansas. It is a small church (several hundred members),

and the couple do the majority of work at the church. They just found out the part-time or volunteer Youth leader, a woman, was sexually abusing their own teenage son. I am not privy to all the details, but apparently this had gone on for awhile before the boy finally came to his parents and told them what was going on. The couple has had to take a leave of absence from the Church. When the story was told to the congregation one of the men in attendance commented "what's the big deal? The boy got laid". The couple doesn't know if they will be able to continue working at the Church, which in turn may cause the Church to shut down.

I think there is definitely something going on in our society with woman becoming more sexualized. The youth pastor at my Church in Houston has told me that porn is not just a problem with teenage boys but teenage girls as well. I think School districts are going to have to start addressing the age of the woman teaching high school as many of the cases we are hearing about are woman in their 20's with 15-17 year old boys. I wonder how soon it will be before the head-shrinking industry to come up with some sort of name or "syndrome" for this condition.

I am the only one who thinks we are going to see more and more of this? Any thoughts on what society could do to prevent this?

And no, I don't have any pictures.

Stop treating ephebophilia as normal and funny?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Hint: add Tumblr after your Google search and you should find what you're looking for

 

[Tom Servo]

I think there is definitely something going on in our society with woman becoming more sexualized.

I think there's a lot to youth in general being sexualized.

 

[dhockster]

I think there is definitely something going on in our society with woman becoming more sexualized.

I think there's a lot to youth in general being sexualized.

Wouldn't you say that in most of these cases the women are initiating the sex?

 

[Scoresman]

i had a few teachers i would've loved to give my shaft. something about taking someone who has such authority over you and having your way with them right on their desk. i'd release all over the blackboard too, so that every time she wrote something over the stain, i'd let out a little giggle.

 

[Black Box]

Teach women not to rape.

 

[Fennis]

What were the ages of the woman and the kid?

I see how the church and the parents were impacted in your description, but how about the kid? how was he impacted by this?

 

[McGarnicle]

I dreamed of this phenomenon when I was younger, and now it's happening, but it's bad. Getting old sucks. :(

 

[dhockster]

What were the ages of the woman and the kid?

I see how the church and the parents were impacted in your description, but how about the kid? how was he impacted by this?

I think he is 15 or 16. I think he was pretty upset about it, as he was the one who came to his parents to tell them what was going on.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

My wife is friends with a couple who co-pastor a protestant church in Arkansas. It is a small church (several hundred members),and the couple do the majority of work at the church. They just found out the part-time or volunteer Youth leader, a woman, was sexually abusing their own teenage son

Unpossible.

 

[IC FBGCav]

I don't think this is anything new, just made public more. As for the more sexualized, back in the early 80s when I was in elementary school kids were having sex in the 6th grade. Not a lot but some.

 

[Tom Servo]

I think there is definitely something going on in our society with woman becoming more sexualized.

I think there's a lot to youth in general being sexualized.

Wouldn't you say that in most of these cases the women are initiating the sex?

I'm not necessarily talking about sex. I'm talking about an overly sexualized culture. Some people even want to teach sex ed to kindergardeners.

There's no sense of letting a child be innocent.

 

[zed2283]

I noticed you used the word "abused" regarding your friends' son. Was he actually being abused or just in a sexual relationship. I know many people think it's the same thing, but I don't and the clarification would help me form an opinion.

 

[cstu]

I think there is definitely something going on in our society with woman becoming more sexualized.

I think there's a lot to youth in general being sexualized.

Try going A&F without seeing half naked teenage boys. Then when you leave take a look at the signs out front.

 

[cstu]

What were the ages of the woman and the kid?

I see how the church and the parents were impacted in your description, but how about the kid? how was he impacted by this?

I think he is 15 or 16. I think he was pretty upset about it, as he was the one who came to his parents to tell them what was going on.

So she wasn't hot?

 

[Tom Servo]

I think there is definitely something going on in our society with woman becoming more sexualized.

I think there's a lot to youth in general being sexualized.

Try going A&F without seeing half naked teenage boys. Then when you leave take a look at the signs out front.

That's what I'm talking about.

 

[Black Box]

I'm not necessarily talking about sex. I'm talking about an overly sexualized culture. Some people even want to teach sex ed to kindergardeners.

There's no sense of letting a child be innocent.

I largely agree. As our society pushes back sexual 'taboos', expect to see it more and more. JMHO.

 

[Al O'Pecia]

They just found out the part-time or volunteer Youth leader, a woman, was sexually abusing their own teenage son.

Well, she did lead him to orgasm. Church should have been more specific in her job duties.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I think there is definitely something going on in our society with woman becoming more sexualized.

I think there's a lot to youth in general being sexualized.

Wouldn't you say that in most of these cases the women are initiating the sex?

I'm not necessarily talking about sex. I'm talking about an overly sexualized culture. Some people even want to teach sex ed to kindergardeners.

There's no sense of letting a child be innocent.

What does this have to do with older women going after teenage boys?

 

[Fennis]

What were the ages of the woman and the kid?

I see how the church and the parents were impacted in your description, but how about the kid? how was he impacted by this?

I think he is 15 or 16. I think he was pretty upset about it, as he was the one who came to his parents to tell them what was going on.

I think the issue is, so many guys think back to being 15 or 16 and know we would literally have done anything to have sex with a 20 or 30 year old woman. Reality clearly isn't the same as the fantasy, but that's the disconnect and the reason most guys don't see him as a victim.

 

[Al O'Pecia]

OP, how is attractive is the woman in question? Is she married and does she have kids of her own? I think it adds a level of weirdness when the older woman is riding a boy who's her son or daughter's age.

 

[Insein]

I noticed you used the word "abused" regarding your friends' son. Was he actually being abused or just in a sexual relationship. I know many people think it's the same thing, but I don't and the clarification would help me form an opinion.

This is a big stipulation. If she was preying on him and forcing him against his will then yea, that's rape. If he willingly entered the relationship, I'm a bit hesitant to say he's a victim.

Still an adult in a position of authority needs to have better judgment. They are the responsible ones. Teenagers think with the wrong head often times.

 

[Guest]

I don't think this is anything new, just made public more. As for the more sexualized, back in the early 80s when I was in elementary school kids were having sex in the 6th grade. Not a lot but some.

This is what I am wondering. Has this always been a thing? Is it because we have so much more information available? Is it because criminal charges are now being brought up versus keeping it hush-hush, and transfering the teacher or running her out of town?

When I was in HS in the mid-80s, there was a female teacher in a neighboring town that liked the HS boys. I didn't know anything about it until after I graduated.

 

[(HULK)]

What were the ages of the woman and the kid?

I see how the church and the parents were impacted in your description, but how about the kid? how was he impacted by this?

I think he is 15 or 16. I think he was pretty upset about it, as he was the one who came to his parents to tell them what was going on.

I just don't understand this.

I remember being 15 or 16. If some church lady wanted to sex me up, one of two things would've happened. One, if she was hot, I'd have banged her silly. Two, if she wasn't, I'd have laughed in her face. She has 0 authority over me, and a 15/16 year old is more than capable of giving consent or not.

The teacher/student thing is a different ballgame because of the impact a teacher can hold over a kid's head. But something like this, there is no authority to abuse. And hence, its not rape. The kid probably consented and then later changed his mind about it for whatever reason. Thats not rape.

 

[(HULK)]

We're way too sexually uptight in this country. It borders on ridiculousness.

 

[dhockster]

I noticed you used the word "abused" regarding your friends' son. Was he actually being abused or just in a sexual relationship. I know many people think it's the same thing, but I don't and the clarification would help me form an opinion.

my guess (like I said, I don't have all the information) is she inititated having sex with him and he felt he couldn't say no because she was an authority figure. I don't think he came to his parents to tell them because he wanted them to know what a great time he was having with all the sex.

"Sexually Abused" was the phrase told to my wife by the pastor

 

[Charlie Steiner]

I don't think this is anything new, just made public more. As for the more sexualized, back in the early 80s when I was in elementary school kids were having sex in the 6th grade. Not a lot but some.

This is what I am wondering. Has this always been a thing? Is it because we have so much more information available? Is it because criminal charges are now being brought up versus keeping it hush-hush, and transfering the teacher or running her out of town?

When I was in HS in the mid-80s, there was a female teacher in a neighboring town that liked the HS boys. I didn't know anything about it until after I graduated.

It's been this way since at least the Summer of '42.

 

[Al O'Pecia]

a 15/16 year old is more than capable of giving consent or not.

Not according to the law.

 

[dhockster]

OP, how is attractive is the woman in question? Is she married and does she have kids of her own? I think it adds a level of weirdness when the older woman is riding a boy who's her son or daughter's age.

Unfortunately, I don't have any more details.

 

[trogg78]

i saw some old comics and Betty Boop used to pick up young boys all the time.

 

[dhockster]

Maybe this has been going on for a long time, but is just being exposed more due to social media.

 

[(HULK)]

I noticed you used the word "abused" regarding your friends' son. Was he actually being abused or just in a sexual relationship. I know many people think it's the same thing, but I don't and the clarification would help me form an opinion.

my guess (like I said, I don't have all the information) is she inititated having sex with him and he felt he couldn't say no because she was an authority figure. I don't think he came to his parents to tell them because he wanted them to know what a great time he was having with all the sex.

"Sexually Abused" was the phrase told to my wife by the pastor

Youth Leader is a far cry from an authority figure, unless you're in some sort of cult.

Furthermore, a male's biology prevents having sex you don't want to have. If he wasn't into it on some level, he wouldn't have had an erection imo.

 

[BroadwayG]

I smell another No More ad campaign coming on

 

[StrikeS2k]

a 15/16 year old is more than capable of giving consent or not.

Not according to the law.

Well thank god this is a message board then!

 

[(HULK)]

a 15/16 year old is more than capable of giving consent or not.

Not according to the law.

Depends on the state.

And where the age of consent is higher than 14, the law is stupid imo. And even then, a 14 year old can consent to having sex with another 14 year old, but not with say a 19 year old. Its capricious and arbitrary imo.

 

[Guest]

I don't think this is anything new, just made public more. As for the more sexualized, back in the early 80s when I was in elementary school kids were having sex in the 6th grade. Not a lot but some.

This is what I am wondering. Has this always been a thing? Is it because we have so much more information available? Is it because criminal charges are now being brought up versus keeping it hush-hush, and transfering the teacher or running her out of town?

When I was in HS in the mid-80s, there was a female teacher in a neighboring town that liked the HS boys. I didn't know anything about it until after I graduated.

It's been this way since at least the Summer of '42.

Yeah, I'm starting to think it's more the publicity than a new issue. How many HS teachers are female and under the age of 30? Very small percentage have or will bang a student. Sorry kids.

 

[(HULK)]

30 something women banging 15 year old boys in every country but this one = zero cares.

We're backwards about sex in the US.

 

[dhockster]

What were the ages of the woman and the kid?

I see how the church and the parents were impacted in your description, but how about the kid? how was he impacted by this?

I think he is 15 or 16. I think he was pretty upset about it, as he was the one who came to his parents to tell them what was going on.

I just don't understand this.

I remember being 15 or 16. If some church lady wanted to sex me up, one of two things would've happened. One, if she was hot, I'd have banged her silly. Two, if she wasn't, I'd have laughed in her face. She has 0 authority over me, and a 15/16 year old is more than capable of giving consent or not.

The teacher/student thing is a different ballgame because of the impact a teacher can hold over a kid's head. But something like this, there is no authority to abuse. And hence, its not rape. The kid probably consented and then later changed his mind about it for whatever reason. Thats not rape.

How about the kid tries it one time because he is curious about it. He then doesn't like it or feels guilty about it and decides he's not going to do it anymore. When he tells that to the teacher/authority figure she's says he better or she is going to say that he tried to rape her. I am not saying this happened in this instance but adults find ways to manipulate kids all the time into doing what they want.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

i saw some old comics and Betty Boop used to pick up young boys all the time.

This is one comic strip that Hollywood could have done something with. Maybe a somewhat younger Jen Tilly as Ms. Boop.

 

[rockaction]

a 15/16 year old is more than capable of giving consent or not.

Not according to the law.

Depends on the state.

And where the age of consent is higher than 14, the law is stupid imo. And even then, a 14 year old can consent to having sex with another 14 year old, but not with say a 19 year old. Its capricious and arbitrary imo.

 

[rockaction]

i saw some old comics and Betty Boop used to pick up young boys all the time.

This is one comic strip that Hollywood could have done something with. Maybe a somewhat younger Jen Tilly as Ms. Boop.

"...a somewhat younger Jen Tilly as Ms. Boop"

The specificity of that

 

[HughHoney]

I'd bet most people here heard rumors of a student hooking up with a teacher when they were in high school. All the stories that are out today, I'd assume most of them were actually true.

 

[Guest]

Is the publicity making the issue worse? When I was in HS I never would have thought about hitting on one of the hot young teachers. If I was in HS now, I might be thinking, "hmmmm, maybe there's a chance?"

 

[Jutz]

[SIZE=medium]Since I like to blame the feminists for everything… I blame this on them.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]For what seems like forever we’ve seen a lot of marriages follow a similar path. Marriage. Man moves along is his career and makes more and more money. Has kids. Wife has less desire for sex. Man has money and goes through a mid life crisis so he decides to go after young tail. 40 year old men end up dating 20 somethings. Ex wives attempt to get as much $ from them as possible.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Women’s movement tells women… I am woman hear me roar. Anything a man can do, you can do better. Women take this idea too literally and start to actually do what men do. They become promiscuous and say ‘men do it, so why can’t I?’ They are correct in this statement but fail to realize it doesn’t really do them any good to copy a bad behavior and do it better. These women have seen their husbands leave them for very young women. The women again think ‘if he can do it, I can do it’. So they find young boys and do the same thing.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]The main thing leading to it is a desperate need for women to feel young and desirable. Something perpetuated by media and western culture. I think they feel if they are able to bed a young boy, it validates their attractiveness, and makes them feel better about themselves… at least temporarily. Until they actually stop and think about what they did.[/SIZE]

 

[Al O'Pecia]

a 15/16 year old is more than capable of giving consent or not.

Not according to the law.

Depends on the state.

And where the age of consent is higher than 14, the law is stupid imo. And even then, a 14 year old can consent to having sex with another 14 year old, but not with say a 19 year old. Its capricious and arbitrary imo.

I agree with your overall take, but fourteen years old seems too young. In many states the age of consent is seventeen. I think sixteen seems like a happy medium.

I always thought it would be funny to run for office as the guy who wants to lower the statutory rape age.

a 15/16 year old is more than capable of giving consent or not.

Not according to the law.

Well thank god this is a message board then!

 

[dhockster]

I noticed you used the word "abused" regarding your friends' son. Was he actually being abused or just in a sexual relationship. I know many people think it's the same thing, but I don't and the clarification would help me form an opinion.

my guess (like I said, I don't have all the information) is she inititated having sex with him and he felt he couldn't say no because she was an authority figure. I don't think he came to his parents to tell them because he wanted them to know what a great time he was having with all the sex.

"Sexually Abused" was the phrase told to my wife by the pastor

Youth Leader is a far cry from an authority figure, unless you're in some sort of cult.

Furthermore, a male's biology prevents having sex you don't want to have. If he wasn't into it on some level, he wouldn't have had an erection imo.

I think that depends on what type of personality the kid has. If they are a rule follower, they might have trouble saying no to a youth leader no matter how lenient the actually authority is.

I disagree with your second point. I think the penis can respond to physical stimulation without the mental will to have sex. I have nothing to back that up other than I just disagree.

 

[rockaction]

I'd bet most people here heard rumors of a student hooking up with a teacher when they were in high school. All the stories that are out today, I'd assume most of them were actually true.

We had one that overtly sexualized the students. She even made a sexual comment to me and my girlfriend one time. She wasn't hot. She was also funny, and I think it was something you either thought was funny or rolled your eyes about if you were the subject of it. We were around sixteen or so, and I don't think anybody our age would have felt scandalized if someone were to have done the deed with her. But that could be just me.

I don't get all snarky one way or the other about it. I once got offended on these boards when the sexual recipient was twelve years old, because that's just way too young, IMO. That could be pre-pubescent molestation if bodily circumstances are in a certain way.

As far as position of authority arguments go, I'd go with the cop out of totality of the circumstances. The age/the nature of the relationship/the generally recognized standards of such relationship, etc. They'd be factors to consider.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

When I was in HS I never would have thought about hitting on one of the hot young teachers. If I was in HS now, I might be thinking, "hmmmm, maybe there's a chance?"

We considered ourselves lucky if they were wearing short skirts and forgot to cross their legs.

 

[cstu]

a 15/16 year old is more than capable of giving consent or not.

Not according to the law.

Depends on the state.

And where the age of consent is higher than 14, the law is stupid imo. And even then, a 14 year old can consent to having sex with another 14 year old, but not with say a 19 year old. Its capricious and arbitrary imo.

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