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☹ Official 2020 Las Vegas Raiders thread ☹ (3 Viewers)
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Hot Diggity Dog
Footballguy
One thing thst is going to be very interesting to see with the new stadium is how much of a home field advantage the Raiders will end up having. It sure seems like being in Vegas means other teams are going to have a lot of fans who are motivated to travel there to watch the games. Then you're going to have hotels and casinos buying tickets for corporate giveaways. I could see this new stadium being the best game day in the NFL, but also the worst home field advantage for any team. Seems like there could be a pretty high price point for the hardcore Raider fan to attend each game.
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SDJohnny
Footballguy
Now that Houston is out the Raiders picks are set.
https://walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2020.php
Round 1
12. Las Vegas (7-9)
19. Las Vegas - from Chicago (8-8)
Round 2-None.
Round 3
16. Las Vegas (7-9) (80 Overall)
17. Las Vegas - from Chicago (8-8) (81 Overall)
26. Las Vegas - from Houston* (10-6) (91 Overall)
Round 4
15. Las Vegas (7-9) (111 Overall)
Round 5
14. Las Vegas (7-9)(142 Overall)
Round Six-None
Round 7
12. Las Vegas (7-9) (204 Overall)
https://walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2020.php
Round 1
12. Las Vegas (7-9)
19. Las Vegas - from Chicago (8-8)
Round 2-None.
Round 3
16. Las Vegas (7-9) (80 Overall)
17. Las Vegas - from Chicago (8-8) (81 Overall)
26. Las Vegas - from Houston* (10-6) (91 Overall)
Round 4
15. Las Vegas (7-9) (111 Overall)
Round 5
14. Las Vegas (7-9)(142 Overall)
Round Six-None
Round 7
12. Las Vegas (7-9) (204 Overall)
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joey
Footballguy
will be very interesting to see if they move up into the 2nd or early 3rd with all those 3rd round picks.
Gonna be an exciting draft.
joey
Footballguy
I'm worried about this as well. BUT...we have long time Raider fans who went from Oak to LA when they moved to LA. And LA to OAK when they moved back to OAK. So I gotta imagine the combo of diehards traveling from BOTH Oak and LA, plus new local fans, will at least fill up 3/4s of the new stadium. PLUS, Raiders fans from everywhere will have a "destination" game to attend. Fingers crossed.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Much more likely that I travel to LV for a weekend compared to Oakland. Nothing wrong wrong with CA but it's not Vegas.
joey
Footballguy
I’m with you. Heck, I live in Marin County, CA, only 45 minutes from the Colosseum, and I haven’t been to a game in over a decade, choosing my couch over that dump. But their move to Vegas has me and some buddies talking about taking a trip next season for a Guy's Weekend and a Raider game.
LawFitz
Footballguy
From what I've been hearing/reading, Vegas locals have already embraced the team. And as others have already suggested, there will be Raider fans from across the world flying in for games in LV, whereas most of them wouldn't have even considered a trip to Oakland (or even L.A. - at the Coliseum). The key to the home field advantage will the be competitiveness of the team. If they rock, so too will the fans. If they don't, then they will see a stadium half (or more) filled with opposing colors, rather than half or more empty. Either way, miggitty Mark makes the cash he needs to fund this operation. Finally.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I'd like to imagine Mayock has been on the phone for weeks now trying to sow the seeds of doing just that already. Hell, I wonder if we try to use our first round picks to move up further to try and grab a guy like Jeudy.joey said:
DocHolliday
Footballguy
This draft is loaded with WR. Moving up is fine but there is no need to give up much. It’s highly possible that the 4th or 5th WR taken is very productive and could even match the production of the first WR taken.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
We have fired Buckner and set to hire Rod Marinelli as DL coach.
I liked Buckner. I got the feeling that the players loved Buckner. I think Buckner will be a rising star. That all being said.... Marinelli is a proven stud coach on D. Wish the best to Buckner. Hope we can keep Marinelli on board and he doesn't get a DC next year somewhere else. (or maybe this is an heir apparent move for Guenther if we do not see major improvement on the D side this next year?)
I liked Buckner. I got the feeling that the players loved Buckner. I think Buckner will be a rising star. That all being said.... Marinelli is a proven stud coach on D. Wish the best to Buckner. Hope we can keep Marinelli on board and he doesn't get a DC next year somewhere else. (or maybe this is an heir apparent move for Guenther if we do not see major improvement on the D side this next year?)
silentmark
Footballguy
I though Buckner did a good job this year. Leaps and bounds better than last year and this gets you fired ?
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I did too, the guy brought us from a truly bottom barrel D with the least amount of sacks to, well, decidedly not that.
And totally agree @Chadstroma, seemed like a player's coach and will land somewhere.
I guess I would be surprised that such a solid performance would get you fired...until I remembered that Marinelli was Gru's assistant coach and oversaw the D-line for their run to the SB with the Bucs.
Rod better bring huge improvement -- otherwise I am going to be upset that we chose the "our" guy approach rather than the "right" guy approach.
curta2
Footballguy
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/nfl-draft/nfl-draft-would-close-las-vegas-strip-for-3-days-source-says-1938095/
Latest draft news. More news to come on Tuesday.
Latest draft news. More news to come on Tuesday.
curta2
Footballguy
I live here in Vegas. I get mixed reviews on how much the city is embracing the team. Some are concerned about traffic, the tax money spent, & also Raiders fans don’t have the best reputation. Lol. I really don’t think traffic will be a huge problem since it’s only 8 home games. Parking, however, will be an issue.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
When the Raiders acquired Brown the roster had 5 All-pro or former All-pro players on the offensive line. Shell, Upshaw, Otto, Mix, Brown.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Fans always dream of trading up to get a brand names in a draft. Arguably the team's biggest needs is a true #1 WR. This draft has strong talent at the position so there is no need to move up. Hell, very early mocks have Ruggs going around 19th. Someone with that type of speed would have a major impact on the complexion of the pass game. But, specific players aside, the point is there is strong depth at the position so no need to trade up.
If anything, I would anticipate the team trades one of their 3rd round picks to acquire more picks in later rounds. The fans should applaud that sort of move if last year's results are any indication. Crosby, Renfro and Moreau were all selected after the 3rd round.
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
I know that I’m repeating myself here but I’ totally agree with you. The draft is loaded at WR and the Raiders can stay put in the first round and land their starting WR. At the same time, I don’t think acquiringmore picks with one of the third round picks is necessary either. There could be some value in the third round and the Raiders could snag an immediate starter or two on D which would be huge.32 Counter Pass said:
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Mayock on 1st Year: Opportunities Lost
Once regarded for his ability to analyze prospective draft picks on the small screen, Raiders general manager delivered a critique upon the big picture that was his first season with the Silver and Black.
"Opportunities lost," Mayock said via the team website. "I mean, we're six and four. We lost five of our last six. I think what it did was illuminate to me that we, our depth has to get better. We got beat up a little bit. And in the NFL, everybody gets beat up. I've got to do a better job of, of helping Jon [Gruden] have enough depth to get through a season at a high level."
Though they needed an abundance of help, the Raiders were alive for a playoff spot in Week 17.
But that was a very slim silver lining for the Silver and Black, which finished its last season in Oakland with a loss on the road to the Broncos to finish the year at 7-9. With the Titans winning -- and continuing to win as they roll into Sunday -- the stumble in the last week wouldn't have mattered as it related to the Raiders' minimal postseason hopes. Still, the 16-15 defeat was more evidence to Mayock's position of opportunities lost.
One particular strong suit was the Raiders' 2019 draft class -- it's first with Mayock.
It began with a trio of first-round picks in defensive end Clelin Ferrell, running back Josh Jacobs and safety Johnathan Abram. Ferrell disappointed a bit, Abram was lost to injury, but Jacobs is an NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year contender. And the rest of the draft was strong, with defensive end Maxx Crosby (fourth round) emerging as a Defensive Rookie of the Year candidate, wide receiver Hunter Renfrow (fifth) turning in a terrific first campaign and cornerback Trayvon Mullen (second) emerging as a starter.
Adding youth and depth to fortify the Raiders going forward is paramount for Mayock as attention turns to free agency and the 2020 NFL Draft.
"I really think in my mind, we wanna build off the success we had," Mayock said. "We wanna add to that foundation with more quality, with young players in our rookie class this year. You know, we talk a lot about foundations both on and off the field. We wanna bring great people into our building both in free agency and the draft. We wanna have better depth than we had last year and, and we wanna finish. And I think that's and important to word to me, wanna finish every practice, every game and ultimately the season in the correct fashion."
At it relates to forming the franchise going forward, there are other avenues up for pondering.
There's long been speculation surrounding quarterback Derek Carr and if he's indeed long for the Raiders under the Gruden umbrella.
Mayock believes adding outside options for Carr is what's needed more than anything. After all, the Antonio Brown experiment ended disastrously before the season even began. The Raiders' other big free agent at wide receiver was Tyrell Williams. Williams looked good at times, but was ultimately plagued by injuries. Nonetheless, Mayock believes Carr's play was a plus.
"As far as Derek is concerned, look, it, Jon demands a lot from his quarterbacks," Mayock said. "People don't understand how much. Just from a verbiage standpoint all the way to control, pre-snap at the line of scrimmage, you know, his percentage of completions, his ability to command the huddle, his ability to command the pre-snap process at the line of scrimmage, his accuracy. He's got arm talent. You look at his development between him and Darren Waller, you know, Darren Waller had 90 catches for over 1,000 yards. Darren Waller is a Pro Bowl tight end by any definition. And then the chemistry he developed with Hunter Renfrow. I think we've got a good offensive line and what we have to do is a better job of supporting him with some more wide receiver talent, the ability to catch the football, uh, the ability to spread the ball around a little bit. You know, Derek handled everything Jon threw at him mentally. I thought he progressed at a rapid rate in year two in Jon's system."
The second year for Mayock in Gruden's system isn't all that far away, now.
Looking back, perhaps there were some lost opportunities, but there was also a promising foundation laid and plenty to learn from.
"It was really a learning process," Mayock said. "It was exhilarating and, you know, I had, I had a lot to learn and I'm really appreciative of the fact that I get a year under my belt now and hopefully I can do a better job next year."
Once regarded for his ability to analyze prospective draft picks on the small screen, Raiders general manager delivered a critique upon the big picture that was his first season with the Silver and Black.
"Opportunities lost," Mayock said via the team website. "I mean, we're six and four. We lost five of our last six. I think what it did was illuminate to me that we, our depth has to get better. We got beat up a little bit. And in the NFL, everybody gets beat up. I've got to do a better job of, of helping Jon [Gruden] have enough depth to get through a season at a high level."
Though they needed an abundance of help, the Raiders were alive for a playoff spot in Week 17.
But that was a very slim silver lining for the Silver and Black, which finished its last season in Oakland with a loss on the road to the Broncos to finish the year at 7-9. With the Titans winning -- and continuing to win as they roll into Sunday -- the stumble in the last week wouldn't have mattered as it related to the Raiders' minimal postseason hopes. Still, the 16-15 defeat was more evidence to Mayock's position of opportunities lost.
One particular strong suit was the Raiders' 2019 draft class -- it's first with Mayock.
It began with a trio of first-round picks in defensive end Clelin Ferrell, running back Josh Jacobs and safety Johnathan Abram. Ferrell disappointed a bit, Abram was lost to injury, but Jacobs is an NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year contender. And the rest of the draft was strong, with defensive end Maxx Crosby (fourth round) emerging as a Defensive Rookie of the Year candidate, wide receiver Hunter Renfrow (fifth) turning in a terrific first campaign and cornerback Trayvon Mullen (second) emerging as a starter.
Adding youth and depth to fortify the Raiders going forward is paramount for Mayock as attention turns to free agency and the 2020 NFL Draft.
"I really think in my mind, we wanna build off the success we had," Mayock said. "We wanna add to that foundation with more quality, with young players in our rookie class this year. You know, we talk a lot about foundations both on and off the field. We wanna bring great people into our building both in free agency and the draft. We wanna have better depth than we had last year and, and we wanna finish. And I think that's and important to word to me, wanna finish every practice, every game and ultimately the season in the correct fashion."
At it relates to forming the franchise going forward, there are other avenues up for pondering.
There's long been speculation surrounding quarterback Derek Carr and if he's indeed long for the Raiders under the Gruden umbrella.
Mayock believes adding outside options for Carr is what's needed more than anything. After all, the Antonio Brown experiment ended disastrously before the season even began. The Raiders' other big free agent at wide receiver was Tyrell Williams. Williams looked good at times, but was ultimately plagued by injuries. Nonetheless, Mayock believes Carr's play was a plus.
"As far as Derek is concerned, look, it, Jon demands a lot from his quarterbacks," Mayock said. "People don't understand how much. Just from a verbiage standpoint all the way to control, pre-snap at the line of scrimmage, you know, his percentage of completions, his ability to command the huddle, his ability to command the pre-snap process at the line of scrimmage, his accuracy. He's got arm talent. You look at his development between him and Darren Waller, you know, Darren Waller had 90 catches for over 1,000 yards. Darren Waller is a Pro Bowl tight end by any definition. And then the chemistry he developed with Hunter Renfrow. I think we've got a good offensive line and what we have to do is a better job of supporting him with some more wide receiver talent, the ability to catch the football, uh, the ability to spread the ball around a little bit. You know, Derek handled everything Jon threw at him mentally. I thought he progressed at a rapid rate in year two in Jon's system."
The second year for Mayock in Gruden's system isn't all that far away, now.
Looking back, perhaps there were some lost opportunities, but there was also a promising foundation laid and plenty to learn from.
"It was really a learning process," Mayock said. "It was exhilarating and, you know, I had, I had a lot to learn and I'm really appreciative of the fact that I get a year under my belt now and hopefully I can do a better job next year."
ICON211
Footballguy
TOM BRADYQB, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Raiders will pursue Tom Brady if he doesn't re-sign with the Patriots.
The Raiders are the second team connected to Brady after NFL Network linked the Chargers as a "legitimate option." The interest isn't surprising — Brady was spotted with Raiders owner Mark Davis in Las Vegas last month — but whether they can lure Brady from New England "remains uncertain." The Patriots are willing to pay Brady in excess of $30 million to stay in New England, so money won't be the only deciding factor of where Brady plays next season. Brady is expected to make a decision on his future well before the free-agent period begins on March 18.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Raiders will pursue Tom Brady if he doesn't re-sign with the Patriots.
The Raiders are the second team connected to Brady after NFL Network linked the Chargers as a "legitimate option." The interest isn't surprising — Brady was spotted with Raiders owner Mark Davis in Las Vegas last month — but whether they can lure Brady from New England "remains uncertain." The Patriots are willing to pay Brady in excess of $30 million to stay in New England, so money won't be the only deciding factor of where Brady plays next season. Brady is expected to make a decision on his future well before the free-agent period begins on March 18.
joey
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I cannot believe the Raiders would be so stupid but this is a move the dumb Raiders would make. Brady is not good enough to bother with or throw over $30 million towards.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’ve been heckling my raider fan friends all day with this.
if moving to Vegas didn’t shake em, this sure AF will.
there is much anger in raider nation today.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Carr is a better QB right now if you give him the weapons & let him run a little.
brady will be one year older, and one year less effective. I don’t expect improvement between 2020-2021. Might as well roll with Carr & draft someone.
joey
Footballguy
IMO, Moving to Vegas is a nice shot in the arm with the new stadium and a promising young team.
I don’t see it as a negative at all.
but I didn’t grow up in Oakland or the Bay Area, so I might be alone on this one.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
(If money is not an issue).....meaning it doesn’t really hurt you elsewhere.....I’m trying to think of when adding Brady to your team is not a good thing.....sign Brady......trade Carr.....draft a young guy to sit for a year or so....
only thing is.....I don’t think Brady wants any part of Mahomes/Reid twice a year.......I don’t think Brady wants any part of the AFC west.....because you are basically going to be fighting for at best the 5th seed in the playoffs for the foreseeable future.....
only thing is.....I don’t think Brady wants any part of Mahomes/Reid twice a year.......I don’t think Brady wants any part of the AFC west.....because you are basically going to be fighting for at best the 5th seed in the playoffs for the foreseeable future.....
SDJohnny
Footballguy
Free Agency wish list. If Raiders shore up these spots they can sit back and take BPA. Jones is the cream of the crop. Post Super Bowl he was talking about staying in KC and building a dynasty. $40mill to Mahomes might make that hard for KC to do. Hopefully a huge pile of cash and tickets to KA can change his mind.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-free-agency-2020-rankings-best-players-by-position/qyh7txt8tytt1e9e5e76mip61
2. Chris Jones, DT, Chiefs (25)
Jones has proved to be a highly disruptive inside pass rusher in two schemes over two massive seasons. He's an explosive talent for any front and the Chiefs may need to franchise-tag him (at around $15.5 million guaranteed) for 2020. The challenges to giving him a big contract are a past one to Frank Clark and a monster future one for Patrick Mahomes while working with limited cap space.
13. Cory Littleton, ILB, Rams (26)
Littleton is a highly active tackler and one of the best cover men at his position because of his quickness, range and instincts. He also can be effective going after the quarterback as a blitzer.
30. Robby Anderson, WR, Jets (26)
Anderson is much like Perriman, given his spike also came in December, but he's more of a pure field-stretcher coming off a 52-catch, 779-yard, 5-TD season. The supply of wideout help is limited enough where demand can get him a generous deal, but likely out of New York.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-free-agency-2020-rankings-best-players-by-position/qyh7txt8tytt1e9e5e76mip61
2. Chris Jones, DT, Chiefs (25)
Jones has proved to be a highly disruptive inside pass rusher in two schemes over two massive seasons. He's an explosive talent for any front and the Chiefs may need to franchise-tag him (at around $15.5 million guaranteed) for 2020. The challenges to giving him a big contract are a past one to Frank Clark and a monster future one for Patrick Mahomes while working with limited cap space.
13. Cory Littleton, ILB, Rams (26)
Littleton is a highly active tackler and one of the best cover men at his position because of his quickness, range and instincts. He also can be effective going after the quarterback as a blitzer.
30. Robby Anderson, WR, Jets (26)
Anderson is much like Perriman, given his spike also came in December, but he's more of a pure field-stretcher coming off a 52-catch, 779-yard, 5-TD season. The supply of wideout help is limited enough where demand can get him a generous deal, but likely out of New York.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Love the first two but I’m not a fan of Anderson. Inconsistent fast WRs that open up the field should not be a priority and should not be where a decent amount of money is spent.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
The donkeys have probably found their QB and have some young, decent talent but I wouldn’t crown them champs of the AFC W in 2020 just yet.
SDJohnny
Footballguy
It's a particularly weak WR free agent class. I'd actually prefer they sign E. Sanders to a 2 year deal to add some veteran leadership for whoever we draft.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
A top WR is likely drafted in the first round. That moves Tyrell to his correct WR 2 spot and Renfrow looks like a great slot WR. Adding another WR from FA for depth is necessary but should not be at much cost. The Raiders need LBs and a CB badly. The D line can never be good enough either. Getting young depth at the O line should occur as well.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I think you nailed it -- the ONLY way this REMOTELY makes sense is if the team sheds Carr for a rookie QB that Brady can groom. Even then, this makes absolutely zero sense to me as Carr right now>>>paying more money than is reasonable for a breaking-down Brady for a year and the off chance that a rookie can become, what, a slightly better Carr?
I have to think Gru and Mayock have better sense and are just f'n with the media.
@DocHolliday took the words from my mouth - would love Jone/Littleton, or a Van Noy, Shaq Barrett or Jamie Collins. Robbie Anderson is sound but not so much separation b/w him as a WR1 and Ty Williams as a WR2. I would really want to see us somehow land Lamb (not likely) or Ruggs (slightly more likely) but they are no guarantees either, but - as @SDJohnny astutely points out -- they are better bets than a really thin WR FA class. Ironically Amari Cooper is likely the best WR FA.
SDJohnny
Footballguy
(RotoWire) Richard (ankle) signed a two-year contract extension with the Raiders on Wednesday, Scott Bair of NBC Sports Bay Area reports.
Analysis: Richard has spent his entire four-year NFL career in Oakland, and he's now set to remain with the Raiders as the team transitions to Las Vegas. The 26-year-old plays a valuable change-of-pace role in the Raiders' offense, and he also offers upside in the kick return game on special teams. In the event that workhorse running back Josh Jacobs (shoulder) manages to improve as a pass-catcher in his sophomore season, however, it could detract from Richard's usage out of the backfield. Richard appeared to suffer an ankle injury during the 2019 season-finale against Denver, and the details of his recovery remain undisclosed.
2 years, $7 mil for Richard. $4.6 mil guaranteed.
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
The #Raiders and RB Jalen Richard have agreed on a contract extension, as @RapSheet tweeted. Will back up Josh Jacobs. Gruden has compared Richard to Charlie Garner, so you knew there was a great chance he was back.
Seems like a lot for him. Great pass catcher, didn't see him breaking a lot of tackles. Sure as heck don't see the Garner comp when I watch him.
Analysis: Richard has spent his entire four-year NFL career in Oakland, and he's now set to remain with the Raiders as the team transitions to Las Vegas. The 26-year-old plays a valuable change-of-pace role in the Raiders' offense, and he also offers upside in the kick return game on special teams. In the event that workhorse running back Josh Jacobs (shoulder) manages to improve as a pass-catcher in his sophomore season, however, it could detract from Richard's usage out of the backfield. Richard appeared to suffer an ankle injury during the 2019 season-finale against Denver, and the details of his recovery remain undisclosed.
2 years, $7 mil for Richard. $4.6 mil guaranteed.
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
The #Raiders and RB Jalen Richard have agreed on a contract extension, as @RapSheet tweeted. Will back up Josh Jacobs. Gruden has compared Richard to Charlie Garner, so you knew there was a great chance he was back.
Seems like a lot for him. Great pass catcher, didn't see him breaking a lot of tackles. Sure as heck don't see the Garner comp when I watch him.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I don’t see the Garner comp either. I see a small, electric RB that is only useful as a pass catcher. Raiders still need a big RB to wear down defenses and to spell Jacobs.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I am with you on Chris Jones. Jones, Hurst, Hankins and Hall could be a deadly rotation lead by Jones. That is assuming that the Chefs do not franchise him but as it is mentioned above, it is going to start getting very tight for them to make deals work and structure them to keep all the guys they have around. If he is available, I would be happy making him our top priority even though other positions are of higher need than DT. If we get more of a consistent push up the middle that would help Ferrell and Crosby on the edges for sure as well as I believe if you have a guy like Jones and can rotate Hurst, Hankins and Hall it will elevate all of their games. I like Armistead as a close plan B and Hargrave as plan but priority wise, I think if we miss on Jones then this position isn't as important to fill as the others below.
Littleton would be a good get. LB is clearly a need. I still like Burfict in the middle but at this point if he looks at someone wrong he is going to be gone. I would say that Littleton is an upgrade over him anyways. Schobert and Martinez could be looked at if he we ended up not landing him.
I might even put Van Noy over Littleon on the priority list. More so because Van Noy over Morrow is a huge upgrade versus the upgrade we would have with Littleton over Burfict (assuming Burfict doesn't get suspended). There isn't a whole lot there. Collins is another option.
We need to sign a CB. Brody, Waynes, Ryan, or Bradberry... we need to add to that player group. Actually likely two with a guy like Apple or Joseph we well to add depth to that position.
We need a kicker.
We do the above and knowing we need a #1 WR (which there seem to be several available) then go pretty much BPA.
I am fine with skipping a guy like Anderson. The draft is full of WR's that we can grab with one of our 1st rounders and should project as a true #1. I have to disagree with Anderson. He is a guy that is actually very similar to Williams and neither is truly built to be a number 1 wide out. I think we have a decent chance to get Lamb with our first 1st rounder but if not there are very good consolidation prize there. I am not seeing a WR that screams to me as a difference maker. I don't see Anderson making a huge difference for what I expect the money to be asked for. I sure wouldn't mind him on the team but I don't see it as a FA priority.
kaso
Footballguy
This signing surprised me. Figured only one of Richard or Washington would be extended. The contract likely doesn't mean that Richard is a Raider over the next two years. Just figured that they'd keep Jacobs + FA + Washington + Crowell (?) + Ingold
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Henry is about to get a big fat contract (well, for RB's). I can't see that happening though it would be fun to see.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
SDJohnny
Footballguy
Completely agree that we need a back up with some power. I think there will be someone there in the 3rd round they can get.
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Gruden likes Richard's football acumen. He picked up the scheme right away in Gruden's 1st year and maybe he just wants to use him as a stop gap on 3rd down's until he has the same trust in Jacobs. No need to bring in a FA 3rd down back that may not take the the offense as well as what he has on hand if the ultimate goal is to have Jacobs be the workhorse. So now we just need that backup early down back.
I hung onto Washington on a dynasty team for the sliver of a chance that he signs with Az where he put up big number for Kingsbury in college.
I hung onto Washington on a dynasty team for the sliver of a chance that he signs with Az where he put up big number for Kingsbury in college.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I think you have it. Gruden is a fan, and kept him around for his contribution and fit to scheme, as opposed to upside.
I hate this time of year as the mock drafts start to ramp up.
Seeing mocks where the Raiders easily snag Jeudy/Lamb then Simmons, or Simmons/Ruggs really get my heart pounding too fast and my excitement up too high. Need more doses of reality.
That said, I do think it's possible that that could happen. I see 4 QBs going before our pick. Bengals, Miami, Chargers, Panthers (I think Cam will leave in FA). Giants and Cards are likely to go OL to protect up and coming franchise QBs. WAS gets Chase at #2 overall.
That leaves the Lions at pick 3, Jags and CLE at 9/10, and the Jets. Lions are likely to go Okudah to shore up their worst pass D in the league in ypg, and can see CLE perhaps going OL or DL.
Jets likely take a WR.
So that does give us the choice of Simmons and one of Jeudy/Lamb.
ICON211
Footballguy
I'd be happy with Lamb or Jeudy at 12, but I think there is a chance both will be off the board. I hope not, but Cards and Jets could both take WRs. I wouldn't rule out the Jags taking a WR either. If Simmons is there at 12 I think I would run the pick up and take WR at 19. If Simmons is gone and Lamb or Jeudy are there then take WR at 12 and someone like Kenneth Murray at 19.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
The first round picks should fall right into the Raiders lap. Icons logic is sound. The Raiders must have a WR 1 and this draft is full of potential great WRs. The other pick in the first round should start the process of taking the BPA on D for most of the remaining picks in the draft. Oline and RB can be addressed in the mid to late rounds but FA may help here.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Agree, I am hoping that this turns out like 2014 when Mack dropped right to us.
I think there is a real possibility that Lamb, Jeudy, and Simmons are all gone before our pick.
If so, I hope we look at BPA D, preferrably a DT. Derrick Brown may be there but doubt it, so maybe a guy like Kinlaw and target Ruggs for the 19th?
We could use some thumpers inside on the D line.
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