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Surtain and Sewell are the surest bets if they stay put at #8.Draft time. Thoughts on the #8 pick?
If Sam is the new QB and no more moves for QB is in the works, I'd like to see:
1. Kyle Pitts - Maybe the best weapon that can line up anywhere on the field. Certain mismatch for LBs.
2. Patrick Surtain - Best CB in the draft.
3. Penei Sewell - Best OT in the draft. Might as well protect Sam as much as possible.
4. One of the WR (Ja'Marr Chase, Jaylen Waddle, Devonta Smith).
Or if one of the QBs slip (Trey Lance), do you grab him? I'm leery of Lance, Mac Jones and J. Fields.
If they decide to trade back for future picks... maybe a Jaycee Horn (CB) will be available.
Sewell, Slater then SurtainDraft time. Thoughts on the #8 pick?
If Sam is the new QB and no more moves for QB is in the works, I'd like to see:
1. Kyle Pitts - Maybe the best weapon that can line up anywhere on the field. Certain mismatch for LBs.
2. Patrick Surtain - Best CB in the draft.
3. Penei Sewell - Best OT in the draft. Might as well protect Sam as much as possible.
4. One of the WR (Ja'Marr Chase, Jaylen Waddle, Devonta Smith).
Or if one of the QBs slip (Trey Lance), do you grab him? I'm leery of Lance, Mac Jones and J. Fields.
If they decide to trade back for future picks... maybe a Jaycee Horn (CB) will be available.
Weird injuries, terrible coaching, terrible oline, terrible weapons and thrown straight to the wolves at the age of 20 from the jump with no acclimation period.I really liked Darnold coming out of college. Between his getting mono and the ####show that is the NYJ, he never really had a chance in NY. I think he is going to be a very good QB. He can make all the throws and has a very good attitude. I'm pulling for the kid. I think Panther fans are going to be happy as he develops.
Thanks for starting a new thread. Apparently I ran the old one into the ground and chased off all the Panther fans.Hoping for a fresh start in 2021. The old thread is linked here.
It wasn't run into the ground. We did seem to lose some Panther fans, not sure why that is... or just the posting frequency slowed down. Haven't heard from NCCommish in a long time. Hope he is doing well.Thanks for starting a new thread. Apparently I ran the old one into the ground and chased off all the Panther fans.
This board in general is dripping dry. I think Joe is handing out 6 month bans in lieu of his new "be nice" mentality. It is what it isIt wasn't run into the ground. We did seem to lose some Panther fans, not sure why that is... or just the posting frequency slowed down. Haven't heard from NCCommish in a long time. Hope he is doing well.
With the exception of cmac (which was an insane hurney deal) they are all on cheap contracts
I like it. Chinn may as well be a first rounder.With the exception of cmac (which was an insane hurney deal) they are all on cheap contracts
ThisIf they keep the 8th pick, I still lean to getting one of the two OT. Give Darnold a chance and some protection. If not OT then Pitts if there, but we need offensive line help.
If defense, Surtain.
If they trade back for picks, hopefully they can get someone like J. Horn later in the 1st.
One interesting scenario I heard was them trading the 8th to NE for a pick package to include Stephon Gilmore. Doubt NE would do that but who knows? Gilmore is up for extension soon and his price will certainly go up. Heard he was only making 7M per. Not sure the Panthers would go for it. He's still one of the best CBs in the league.
Just don't see them drafting a QB with Darnold... but having two young QBs to compete (or the rookie sit a year or two) might not be a bad thing, if one of them pans out. Not sure who I like better, Lance or Fields.
If they stick with the 8th and select the OT, that will be a fine start.
Maybe, but it made a lot more sense to me when they took a chance on Darnold and had a decent backup option with Teddy B. Trading him away is a mistake IMO. Even if I'm not a fan.There has been a ton of chatter on Bridgewater and Darnold on their individual player threads. Both are on the first and second page.
But since you started a new thread, CAR apparently doesn’t think Darnold is trash and he’s been a target for them for a long time. He’s basically still close in age to the rookies but comes with three years NFL experience. So the Panthers are looking at it that they are getting a seasoned guy that was a top rated recruit and a #3 pick.
That’s the feel could perspective, other opinions will vary. I am more skeptical. But it looks like they won’t be taking a QB in the draft now and could potentially move back for someone looking to move up.
I think Fields would be a very solid move, but what are the odds they don't trade down for some haul from a team like Chi or NE?I'm thinking Fields.
I'm ok with a trade down but they won't get the type of haul that Miami got from SF. Most of the talk is about NE moving up but I can see Chicago moving up and offering more than NE for one of the QBs. If Lance and/or Fields is available at 8, it puts the Panthers in a nice position. Could get very interesting tonight.I think Fields would be a very solid move, but what are the odds they don't trade down for some haul from a team like Chi or NE?
I think Rhule & Tepper are bigger gamblers then Riverboat Ron was and will take a deal down.
Bridgewater, who signed a three-year, $63 million deal with the Panthers before last season, threw for 3,733 yards in 2020, with 15 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. By renegotiating the final two years of Bridgewater's deal, the Panthers will save $6 million in 2021 and $26 million in 2022, a source told ESPN's David Newton.
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Well they boned it.It seems hard to see a scenario where they botch this pick. If they can trade for a good pick package, great. If the QBs are gone before 8... lots of talent on the board to choose from. Pick of the litter at OT, CB, TE, LB.
And they boned this too. Who wants to play on turf?
I'm a big Gamecock fan and have watched all his college snaps as a result. He has the athleticism to be a top CB, but I really question the drive and discipline. He had awful coaching at the college level so.....I really hope I'm wrong on him.Jaycee Horn. Good pick but thought it would be Slater there.
Defense is improving. Day one starter.
If they decide to trade back for future picks... maybe a Jaycee Horn (CB) will be available.
Seems like you really liked Horn, but wanted him way later in the draft. Thoughts on them taking him over Surtain?If they trade back for picks, hopefully they can get someone like J. Horn later in the 1st.
I hope they can coach him up too. Thought we should have grabbed Slater at 8 given how things panned out.I'm a big Gamecock fan and have watched all his college snaps as a result. He has the athleticism to be a top CB, but I really question the drive and discipline. He had awful coaching at the college level so.....I really hope I'm wrong on him.
Agree. Slater was the best option at 8.We reached for Horn and let Slater slide past us. WTF is this team doing??????
Its insanity. Utter insanityAgree. Slater was the best option at 8.
I do like Horn but believe there were better options at #8. I had Surtain as the top CB and the one CB taken in the top 10. Had Horn as #2 and thought he'd be taken in the 11-14 range. Hoped that if we drafted Horn it meant that we traded back to, say, 12 or 13 and we'd be able to get Horn and another pick later.Seems like you really liked Horn, but wanted him way later in the draft. Thoughts on them taking him over Surtain?
Man, it sure seems that way.Maybe Rhule has a clause in his contract preventing him from drafting offensive players.
The Cowboys would have taken Horn or Surtain had they been available. They traded down from the 10 spot with the Eagles, because both were gone. Had the Panthers traded down they would not have gotten one of those two. Rhule said they play against big receivers in the NFC South, and Horn covers big receivers well. They wanted Sewell, but he was gone right before. Apparently, they felt like Horn at CB was better than Slater at OT. Maybe they will go for OL help in the second round.I do like Horn but believe there were better options at #8. I had Surtain as the top CB and the one CB taken in the top 10. Had Horn as #2 and thought he'd be taken in the 11-14 range. Hoped that if we drafted Horn it meant that we traded back to, say, 12 or 13 and we'd be able to get Horn and another pick later.
Horn may not have been there in that trade scenario but we could have drafted Slater and another need in the first and had another added pick. I'd rather have Slater and someone like Campbell (UGA) or A. Samuels (FSU) later on. Regardless, I really hope Horn turns out a great pick. And hopefully we still find a decent OT today.The Cowboys would have taken Horn or Surtain had they been available. They traded down from the 10 spot with the Eagles, because both were gone. Had the Panthers traded down they would not have gotten one of those two. Rhule said they play against big receivers in the NFC South, and Horn covers big receivers well. They wanted Sewell, but he was gone right before. Apparently, they felt like Horn at CB was better than Slater at OT. Maybe they will go for OL help in the second round.
I’m with you. San Diego drafted slater and immediately named him a starter. We are going to regret passing on himHorn may not have been there in that trade scenario but we could have drafted Slater and another need in the first and had another added pick. I'd rather have Slater and someone like Campbell (UGA) or A. Samuels (FSU) later on. Regardless, I really hope Horn turns out a great pick. And hopefully we still find a decent OT today.
I had forgotten the bold. That actually warms me to the move a good deal because they would a really up close look at the concerns I have.Jayrok said:I do like Horn but believe there were better options at #8. I had Surtain as the top CB and the one CB taken in the top 10. Had Horn as #2 and thought he'd be taken in the 11-14 range. Hoped that if we drafted Horn it meant that we traded back to, say, 12 or 13 and we'd be able to get Horn and another pick later.
Guess Rhule really liked what he saw at the Senior Bowl week in Horn. As Desert_Power mentioned above, Horn is very talented and has the ability to play press coverage. I do think he'll be a day one starter on an improved defense.
But we need OL help and Slater was right there.
I hate to be negative but I agree. WTF are they doing. We dont need a WR or TE. Hell we just signed 2. We need line help and we let a whole lot of it go right by us. I think Fitter just tried to get cute on general principle. A WR in the 2nd???????????? Do these guys realize that you need an offensive line to win games?Words I thought I'd never say...Wow I miss Marty Hurney.
Fitterer has easily had the worst draft this year. Outside of Marshall, every pick has been a reach. On top of that he's traded away picks that could have secured go talent for multiple late picks that won't be much better that UDFAs.
They trade the 2nd round pick to the Bears who then drafts T. Jenkins, OT. I'd rather have just drafted the OT there. Then 4 more OT go off the board in the next 10 or so picks. But hey, at least we snagged another 6th round pick.I hate to be negative but I agree. WTF are they doing. We dont need a WR or TE. Hell we just signed 2. We need line help and we let a whole lot of it go right by us. I think Fitter just tried to get cute on general principle. A WR in the 2nd???????????? Do these guys realize that you need an offensive line to win games?