5-82 on 6 targetsThe 5-82 line tonight by Goedert is a gold mine compared to most of the numbers we’re seeing so far.
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Team | Team | Route % | Blocking % | Routes | Plays | Snaps | Targets |
Travis Kelce | KC | 70.00% | 8.90% | 63 | 90 | 90 | 16 |
Gerald Everett | LAC | 60.90% | 9.80% | 56 | 92 | 92 | 14 |
Hayden Hurst | CIN | 72.50% | 2.90% | 50 | 69 | 69 | 8 |
Darren Waller | LV | 73.50% | 2.90% | 50 | 68 | 81 | 14 |
Tyler Conklin | NYJ | 63.90% | 13.90% | 46 | 72 | 72 | 7 |
Dalton Schultz | DAL | 68.80% | 6.30% | 44 | 64 | 64 | 9 |
Tyler Higbee | LAR | 69.40% | 4.80% | 43 | 62 | 62 | 11 |
Evan Engram | JAX | 81.81% | 2.30% | 36 | 44 | 44 | 4 |
Dallas Goedert | PHI | 48.50% | 15.20% | 32 | 66 | 66 | 4 |
Tre' McKitty | LAC | 39.00% | 15.60% | 30 | 77 | 77 | 4 |
That Engram route % really stands out IMO. From what I've gathered from a lot of analysts that really track this stuff, an 80% route rate or higher is pretty elite in terms of TE usage.Top Ten Route Data
Full Table tomorrow
Route Data Team Team Route % Blocking % Routes Plays Snaps Targets Travis Kelce KC 70.00% 8.90% 63 90 90 16 Gerald Everett LAC 60.90% 9.80% 56 92 92 14 Hayden Hurst CIN 72.50% 2.90% 50 69 69 8 Darren Waller LV 73.50% 2.90% 50 68 81 14 Tyler Conklin NYJ 63.90% 13.90% 46 72 72 7 Dalton Schultz DAL 68.80% 6.30% 44 64 64 9 Tyler Higbee LAR 69.40% 4.80% 43 62 62 11 Evan Engram JAX 81.81% 2.30% 36 44 44 4 Dallas Goedert PHI 48.50% 15.20% 32 66 66 4 Tre' McKitty LAC 39.00% 15.60% 30 77 77 4
That's a close one. I might go with Higbee because Everett's looks probably take a bit of a hit once Keenan returns.Standard redraft, which one of the 2 LA teams TE's?
Standard redraft, which one of the 2 LA teams TE's?
Always gotta be a funny guy in the crowd.Standard redraft, which one of the 2 LA teams TE's?
Yes
Always gotta be a funny guy in the crowd.Standard redraft, which one of the 2 LA teams TE's?
Yes
Agree with your comments but we also need to consider a healthy Parham. I expect him to steal goal line looks (at a minimum).Everett > Higbee
As good as Allen and Williams are-- Kupp is another animal.
Herbert > stafford too
McKitty is also involved as shown upthread. When Parnham is healthy, they may not dress all three of them, but it does seem that Everett has to contend with other TEs. Higbee seems to have the job mainly to himself.Agree with your comments but we also need to consider a healthy Parham. I expect him to steal goal line looks (at a minimum).Everett > Higbee
As good as Allen and Williams are-- Kupp is another animal.
Herbert > stafford too
Ever since he's been in the league, Engram has basically been incapable of blocking. I think you have no worries on that front.That Engram route % really stands out IMO. From what I've gathered from a lot of analysts that really track this stuff, an 80% route rate or higher is pretty elite in terms of TE usage.Top Ten Route Data
Full Table tomorrow
Route Data Team Team Route % Blocking % Routes Plays Snaps Targets Travis Kelce KC 70.00% 8.90% 63 90 90 16 Gerald Everett LAC 60.90% 9.80% 56 92 92 14 Hayden Hurst CIN 72.50% 2.90% 50 69 69 8 Darren Waller LV 73.50% 2.90% 50 68 81 14 Tyler Conklin NYJ 63.90% 13.90% 46 72 72 7 Dalton Schultz DAL 68.80% 6.30% 44 64 64 9 Tyler Higbee LAR 69.40% 4.80% 43 62 62 11 Evan Engram JAX 81.81% 2.30% 36 44 44 4 Dallas Goedert PHI 48.50% 15.20% 32 66 66 4 Tre' McKitty LAC 39.00% 15.60% 30 77 77 4
McKitty is also involved as shown upthread. When Parnham is healthy, they may not dress all three of them, but it does seem that Everett has to contend with other TEs. Higbee seems to have the job mainly to himself.Agree with your comments but we also need to consider a healthy Parham. I expect him to steal goal line looks (at a minimum).Everett > Higbee
As good as Allen and Williams are-- Kupp is another animal.
Herbert > stafford too
I don't see it. Outside of the brief window when Gronk and the Murderer were both Top 5 options, have there been any other situations where a team had two startable TEs?Can Isaiah Likely become the third option in Baltimore?
Leaving aside Likely for a moment (see previous post), I would rank the others Engram >>>>>>>>>>>> Johnson>Conklin. Engram has been an elite TE before and has the highest upside. With JJ and Conklin, the best you can really hope for is that they become usable starters (I suppose it's always possible they could go Full Barnidge, but I wouldn't bet on it)For those of us stuck in tight end wasteland in deep leagues (I'm assuming Higbee, Everett, and Logan Thomas already owned), I think we're likely looking at Conklin, Engram, Likely, or Juwan Johnson.
So you're saying it's not likely.I don't see it. Outside of the brief window when Gronk and the Murderer were both Top 5 options, have there been any other situations where a team had two startable TEs?Can Isaiah Likely become the third option in Baltimore?
Not only is it not likely, it's not LikelySo you're saying it's not likely.I don't see it. Outside of the brief window when Gronk and the Murderer were both Top 5 options, have there been any other situations where a team had two startable TEs?Can Isaiah Likely become the third option in Baltimore?
The 2019 Eagles had two startable TEs in Ertz (finished 5th in fantasy among TEs) and Goedert (finished 10th). Apart from them the Gronk/Hernandez pairing was the only other one I could find that fit the criteria.I don't see it. Outside of the brief window when Gronk and the Murderer were both Top 5 options, have there been any other situations where a team had two startable TEs?Can Isaiah Likely become the third option in Baltimore?
The 2019 Eagles had two startable TEs in Ertz (finished 5th in fantasy among TEs) and Goedert (finished 10th). Apart from them the Gronk/Hernandez pairing was the only other one I could find that fit the criteria.I don't see it. Outside of the brief window when Gronk and the Murderer were both Top 5 options, have there been any other situations where a team had two startable TEs?Can Isaiah Likely become the third option in Baltimore?
But it would be like Likely to be likely.Not only is it not likely, it's not LikelySo you're saying it's not likely.I don't see it. Outside of the brief window when Gronk and the Murderer were both Top 5 options, have there been any other situations where a team had two startable TEs?Can Isaiah Likely become the third option in Baltimore?
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Name | Team | Route % | Blocking % | Routes | Snaps | Targets |
Greg Dulcich | DEN | 60.2 | 8.4 | 100 | 166 | 12 |
Dawson Knox | BUF | 59.4 | 6.7 | 98 | 165 | 15 |
T.J. Hockenson | MIN | 57.8 | 13.9 | 96 | 166 | 25 |
Travis Kelce | KC | 61.4 | 16.3 | 94 | 153 | 25 |
Foster Moreau | LV | 46.5 | 11.0 | 93 | 200 | 14 |
Evan Engram | JAX | 66.7 | 8.6 | 70 | 105 | 5 |
Dalton Schultz | DAL | 42.3 | 13.5 | 69 | 163 | 17 |
Pat Freiermuth | PIT | 68.3 | 4.0 | 69 | 101 | 19 |
Mark Andrews | BAL | 57.6 | 4.2 | 68 | 118 | 15 |
Jordan Akins | HOU | 77.0 | 9.2 | 67 | 87 | 11 |
Two guys I likes as possible streamers this week both play in the same game. Logan Thomas vs a NYG team who is bad vs TE and Daniel Bellinger for a NYG team desperate for receiving options.
Doing this again?
Great work
Under 10 TDs | Over 10 TDs | |
Under 90 Targets | 0 | 7 |
Over 90 Targets | 73 | 20 |
PLAYER | TEAM | G | T | REC | COMP % | YARDS | YPR | Lg | TD | ADoT | YAC | YAC /REC | CCT | CC | CC % | DR | DR % | FD | FUM | MTF | PASS SNAPS | RR | ROUTE % | YPRR | PASS BLK | PBLK % | SLOT | SLOT % | WIDE | WIDE % | INLINE | INLINE % | NFL PRtng |
T.J. Hockenson | MIN | 9 | 78 | 60 | 76.9% | 548 | 9.1 | 29 | 3 | 6.6 | 229 | 3.8 | 16 | 5 | 31.3% | 5 | 7.7 | 31 | 1 | 6 | 356 | 318 | 89.3% | 1.72 | 20 | 5.6% | 129 | 36.2% | 42 | 11.8% | 185 | 52.0% | 102.9 |
Travis Kelce | KC | 8 | 70 | 57 | 81.4% | 597 | 10.5 | 53 | 4 | 7.0 | 274 | 4.8 | 12 | 4 | 33.3% | 2 | 3.4 | 30 | 0 | 6 | 271 | 246 | 90.8% | 2.43 | 9 | 3.3% | 140 | 51.7% | 56 | 20.7% | 70 | 25.8% | 109.3 |
Evan Engram | JAX | 8 | 59 | 51 | 86.4% | 442 | 8.7 | 34 | 0 | 4.0 | 296 | 5.8 | 4 | 3 | 75.0% | 1 | 1.9 | 19 | 2 | 8 | 171 | 139 | 81.3% | 3.18 | 19 | 11.1% | 53 | 31.0% | 24 | 14.0% | 89 | 52.0% | 121.2 |
Sam LaPorta | DET | 8 | 59 | 43 | 72.9% | 434 | 10.1 | 45 | 4 | 6.9 | 182 | 4.2 | 10 | 7 | 70.0% | 4 | 8.5 | 22 | 0 | 5 | 279 | 246 | 88.2% | 1.76 | 25 | 9.0% | 76 | 70.0% | 70 | 25.1% | 132 | 47.3% | 116.1 |
Mark Andrews | BLT | 8 | 55 | 41 | 74.5% | 477 | 11.6 | 38 | 6 | 7.9 | 187 | 4.6 | 7 | 3 | 42.9% | 4 | 8.9 | 25 | 0 | 6 | 272 | 251 | 92.3% | 1.90 | 7 | 2.6% | 220 | 80.9% | 24 | 8.8% | 26 | 9.6% | 136.7 |
Dallas Goedert | PHI | 9 | 52 | 38 | 73.1% | 410 | 10.8 | 49 | 2 | 5.3 | 223 | 5.9 | 8 | 4 | 50.0% | 2 | 5.0 | 23 | 0 | 7 | 335 | 306 | 91.3% | 1.34 | 13 | 3.9% | 172 | 51.3% | 36 | 10.7% | 126 | 37.6% | 92.6 |
Kyle Pitts | ATL | 9 | 50 | 32 | 64.0% | 389 | 12.2 | 39 | 1 | 11.7 | 88 | 2.8 | 13 | 5 | 38.5% | 1 | 3.0 | 20 | 0 | 2 | 275 | 260 | 94.5% | 1.50 | 3 | 1.1% | 171 | 62.2% | 72 | 26.2% | 32 | 11.6% | 86.2 |
Darren Waller | NYG | 8 | 50 | 36 | 72.0% | 383 | 10.6 | 27 | 0 | 8.1 | 148 | 4.1 | 13 | 4 | 30.8% | 0 | 0.0 | 18 | 0 | 1 | 284 | 250 | 88.0% | 1.53 | 19 | 6.7% | 145 | 51.1% | 58 | 20.4% | 79 | 27.8% | 84.0 |
Cole Kmet | CHI | 9 | 49 | 41 | 83.7% | 374 | 9.1 | 23 | 5 | 6.2 | 161 | 3.9 | 4 | 1 | 25.0% | 3 | 0.0 | 22 | 1 | 3 | 289 | 246 | 85.1% | 1.52 | 34 | 11.8% | 145 | 50.2% | 23 | 8.0% | 117 | 40.5% | 115.5 |
Dalton Schultz | HST | 8 | 47 | 33 | 70.2% | 450 | 13.6 | 31 | 4 | 7.6 | 154 | 4.7 | 4 | 1 | 25.0% | 4 | 10.8 | 19 | 1 | 4 | 259 | 227 | 87.6% | 1.98 | 17 | 6.6% | 103 | 39.8% | 29 | 11.2% | 121 | 46.7% | 111.1 |
PLAYER | TEAM | G | T | REC | COMP % | YARDS | YPR | Lg | TD | ADoT | YAC | YAC /REC | CCT | CC | CC % | DR | DR % | FD | FUM | MTF | PASS SNAPS | RR | ROUTE % | YPRR | PASS BLK | PBLK % | SLOT | SLOT % | WIDE | WIDE % | INLINE | INLINE % | NFL PRtng |
Logan Thomas | WAS | 8 | 45 | 33 | 73.3% | 311 | 9.4 | 27 | 3 | 6.9 | 154 | 4.7 | 12 | 4 | 33.3% | 2 | 5.7 | 15 | 1 | 2 | 312 | 277 | 88.8% | 1.12 | 22 | 7.1% | 157 | 50.3% | 87 | 27.9% | 68 | 21.8% | 114.2 |
Dalton Kincaid | BUF | 8 | 44 | 40 | 90.9% | 339 | 8.5 | 22 | 1 | 4.4 | 173 | 4.3 | 4 | 2 | 50.0% | 0 | 0.0 | 16 | 1 | 7 | 261 | 244 | 93.5% | 1.39 | 1 | 0.4% | 143 | 54.8% | 52 | 19.9% | 61 | 23.4% | 96.9 |
David Njoku | CLV | 8 | 43 | 32 | 74.4% | 319 | 10.0 | 41 | 2 | 3.3 | 267 | 8.3 | 6 | 4 | 66.7% | 0 | 0.0 | 13 | 1 | 9 | 289 | 240 | 83.0% | 1.33 | 29 | 10.0% | 109 | 37.7% | 26 | 9.0% | 151 | 52.2% | 100.8 |
Zach Ertz | ARZ | 7 | 42 | 27 | 64.3% | 187 | 6.9 | 17 | 1 | 7.0 | 51 | 1.9 | 7 | 3 | 42.9% | 4 | 12.9 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 203 | 186 | 91.6% | 1.01 | 3 | 1.5% | 111 | 54.7% | 25 | 12.3% | 67 | 33.0% | 62.3 |
Jonnu Smith | ATL | 9 | 42 | 34 | 81.0% | 422 | 12.4 | 60 | 2 | 6.4 | 265 | 7.8 | 5 | 4 | 80.0% | 2 | 5.6 | 19 | 1 | 9 | 257 | 217 | 84.4% | 1.94 | 28 | 10.9% | 141 | 54.9% | 33 | 12.8% | 72 | 28.0% | 114.5 |
Jake Ferguson | DAL | 8 | 42 | 32 | 76.2% | 328 | 10.3 | 40 | 3 | 6.0 | 174 | 5.4 | 9 | 3 | 33.3% | 3 | 8.6 | 17 | 0 | 8 | 252 | 224 | 88.9% | 1.46 | 15 | 6.0% | 100 | 39.7% | 23 | 9.1% | 127 | 50.4% | 121.9 |
George Kittle | SF | 8 | 42 | 32 | 76.2% | 443 | 13.8 | 38 | 3 | 9.6 | 178 | 5.6 | 6 | 3 | 50.0% | 4 | 11.1 | 20 | 0 | 6 | 261 | 221 | 84.7% | 2.00 | 22 | 8.4% | 79 | 30.3% | 16 | 6.1% | 162 | 62.1% | 133,3 |
Hunter Henry | NE | 9 | 41 | 27 | 65.9% | 277 | 10.3 | 21 | 3 | 9.5 | 59 | 2.2 | 11 | 6 | 54.5% | 2 | 6.9 | 18 | 0 | 0 | 274 | 247 | 90.1% | 1.12 | 13 | 4.7% | 141 | 51.5% | 21 | 7.7% | 111 | 40.5% | 99.3 |
Tyler Higbee | LA | 9 | 40 | 26 | 65.0% | 286 | 11.0 | 33 | 9 | 7.6 | 110 | 4.2 | 8 | 4 | 50.0% | 3 | 10.3 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 343 | 298 | 86.9% | 0.96 | 27 | 7.9% | 98 | 28.6% | 57 | 16.6% | 188 | 54.8% | 86.0 |
Trey McBride | ARZ | 9 | 39 | 28 | 71.8% | 287 | 10.3 | 27 | 1 | 6.9 | 126 | 4.5 | 6 | 4 | 66.7% | 2 | 6.7 | 14 | 0 | 3 | 168 | 147 | 87.5% | 1.95 | 9 | 5.4% | 70 | 41.7% | 12 | 7.1% | 78 | 46.4% | 79.8 |
PLAYER | TEAM | G | T | REC | COMP % | YARDS | YPR | Lg | TD | ADoT | YAC | YAC /REC | CCT | CC | CC % | DR | DR % | FD | FUM | MTF | PASS SNAPS | RR | ROUTE % | YPRR | PASS BLK | PBLK % | SLOT | SLOT % | WIDE | WIDE % | INLINE | INLINE % | NFL PRtng |
Cade Otton | TB | 8 | 38 | 28 | 73.7% | 245 | 8.8 | 24 | 3 | 6.3 | 114 | 4.1 | 6 | 2 | 33.3% | 1 | 3.4 | 12 | 1 | 2 | 321 | 267 | 83.2% | 0.92 | 31 | 9.7% | 128 | 39.9% | 54 | 16.8% | 131 | 40.8% | 105.7 |
Chigoziem Okonkwo | TEN | 8 | 35 | 24 | 68.6% | 173 | 7.2 | 20 | 0 | 7.2 | 79 | 3.3 | 7 | 3 | 42.9% | 3 | 11.1 | 8 | 0 | 4 | 242 | 199 | 82.2% | 0.87 | 25 | 10.3% | 126 | 52.1% | 27 | 11.2% | 71 | 29.3% | 67.9 |
Luke Musgrave | GB | 8 | 20 | 27 | 135.0% | 249 | 9.2 | 37 | 1 | 6.5 | 141 | 5.2 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | 1 | 3.6 | 10 | 0 | 2 | 238 | 206 | 86.6% | 1.21 | 23 | 9.7% | 98 | 41.2% | 18 | 7.6% | 121 | 50.8% | 105.5 |
Tyler Conklin | NYJ | 8 | 20 | 26 | 130.0% | 293 | 11.3 | 37 | 0 | 7.5 | 120 | 4.6 | 7 | 5 | 71.4% | 0 | 0.0 | 10 | 0 | 1 | 242 | 217 | 89.7% | 1.35 | 14 | 5.8% | 137 | 56.6% | 23 | 9.5% | 82 | 33.9% | 103.7 |
Dawson Knox | BUF | 7 | 19 | 15 | 78.9% | 102 | 6.8 | 15 | 1 | 7.2 | 62 | 4.1 | 5 | 0 | 0.0% | 3 | 16.7 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 205 | 174 | 84.9% | 0.59 | 18 | 8.8% | 88 | 42.9% | 33 | 16.1% | 76 | 37.1% | 45.6 |
Kylen Granson | IND | 7 | 19 | 16 | 84.2% | 170 | 10.6 | 45 | 1 | 7.5 | 73 | 4.6 | 2 | 1 | 50.0% | 2 | 11.1 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 182 | 169 | 92.9% | 1.01 | 3 | 1.6% | 92 | 50.5% | 20 | 11.0% | 66 | 36.3% | 90.0 |
Hayden Hurst | CAR | 8 | 19 | 16 | 84.2% | 170 | 10.6 | 48 | 1 | 8.5 | 64 | 4.0 | 4 | 2 | 50.0% | 1 | 5.9 | 7 | 0 | 2 | 221 | 199 | 90.0% | 0.85 | 5 | 2.3% | 98 | 44.3% | 40 | 18.1% | 82 | 37.1% | 61.4 |
Mike Gesicki | NE | 9 | 19 | 19 | 100.0% | 159 | 8.4 | 18 | 1 | 9.7 | 61 | 3.2 | 5 | 3 | 60.0% | 0 | 0.0 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 206 | 196 | 95.1% | 0.81 | 2 | 1.0% | 152 | 73.8% | 36 | 17.5% | 18 | 8.7% | 101.3 |
Gerald Everett | LAC | 7 | 19 | 21 | 110.5% | 167 | 8.0 | 29 | 2 | 3.5 | 114 | 5.4 | 1 | 0 | 0.0% | 1 | 4.5 | 13 | 2 | 12 | 171 | 139 | 81.3% | 1.20 | 19 | 11.1% | 53 | 31.0% | 24 | 14.0% | 89 | 52.0% | 121.2 |
Taysom Hill | NO | 9 | 19 | 20 | 105.3% | 142 | 7.1 | 19 | 1 | 5.8 | 62 | 3.1 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | 0 | 0.0 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 175 | 153 | 87.4% | 0.93 | 3 | 1.7% | 86 | 49.1% | 41 | 23.4% | 31 | 17.7% | 105.2 |
KEY | G | games played | Lg | longest reception | DR | on target drops | RR | routes run on passing snaps | SLOT | snaps line up as slot WR |
T | targets | ADoT | average depth of target | DR % | on target passes dropped | Route % | route participation of all passing snaps | SLOT % | percentage of snaps in slot | |
REC | receptions | YAC | yards after catch | FD | first downs | YPRR | yards per route run | WIDE | snaps lined up as wide receiver | |
COMP % | completion percentage | CC | contested catches | FUM | fumbles | PASS BLK | pass block snaps | WIDE % | percentage of snaps on boundary | |
YPR | yards per reception | CCT | contested targets | MTF | missed tackles forced | PBLK % | % of pass block snaps | INLINE | snaps lined up as inline TE | |
CC % | contested throws completed | per passing snap played | INLINE % | percentage of snaps lined up next to OT | ||||||
NFL PRtng | passer rating when targeted |
Thanks Bobby.. great info. I think your Musgrave and Conklin targets and receptions are swapped in the first table. You got them catching more balls then they had targets… just noticed. Same for Everett and Taysom Hill.