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Just wanna say guys, this has been absolutely class so far.
Top, top work.
Top, top work.
Just wanna say guys, this has been absolutely class so far.
Top, top work.
Thanks. Great potential but he was injured alot and only has 8 college starts.Mims went at 25
Nice pick. I was between him and Kool Aid at 29.With the 3rd pick of round 2 (selection 35) Miami picks Graham Barton, Duke.
Some mocks had him going in round 1. The 10 mocks in DraftBuzz had him going 24 to 41, eliminating the 2 extremes, with a median of 31. A safe choice at a position of need. Graham played 6 games at C as a true freshman due to injuries, then started 3 years at LT improving every year. Good technique, strong in the run game, but short arms means he'll play guard or center in the NFL. He could play from day 1, potentially competing at C where Miami spent some $$ on Aaron Brewer. Seems like a safe bet. Need to protect Tua. Connor Williams had a significant knee injury and is unsigned. Robert Hunt got a $100,000,000 contract with the Panthers. Liam Eichenberg was a huge liability at C and G.
Give the Dolphins some time. Consulting with co-GM @Ministry of Pain. . Time for lunch anyway. We have a few good choices. Oline or dline.
All i can hear in my head is Conor McGregors voice while reading that comment, especially the '' Top ,top work'' lolJust wanna say guys, this has been absolutely class so far.
Top, top work.
Mims has the highest upside and Packers can be patient. You’re hoping he mans for along time. I would have preferred to trade down.Rejecting Amarius Mims who's one of the highest on my board as too much of a project. We did that with Austin Jackson and it took 4 years.
Question. Kinsley's measurable are off the chart and he did a great job at tackle for 2 years. Why isn't he a 1st round grade by more analysts?Washington Commanders
2.04 -- OT Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
The Commanders' war room watches helplessly - and with intense fear and loathing - as many of the players they'd been targeting for the top of the second round come off the board early, then breathe a collective sigh of relief as their future starting LT drops into their laps.
With the 3rd pick of round 2 (selection 35) Miami picks Graham Barton, Duke.
Some mocks had him going in round 1. The 10 mocks in DraftBuzz had him going 24 to 41, eliminating the 2 extremes, with a median of 31. A safe choice at a position of need. Graham played 6 games at C as a true freshman due to injuries, then started 3 years at LT improving every year. Good technique, strong in the run game, but short arms means he'll play guard or center in the NFL. He could play from day 1, potentially competing at C where Miami spent some $$ on Aaron Brewer. Seems like a safe bet. Need to protect Tua. Connor Williams had a significant knee injury and is unsigned. Robert Hunt got a $100,000,000 contract with the Panthers. Liam Eichenberg was a huge liability at C and G.
1st-SoBe was KIND enough to let me in the War Room but he is the Captain here. It might not have been my 1st choice however...Miami needs help on both sides of the line and we talked about other players we want to take a look at coming up at 55 and 66..we only had 21 and 55 to start with, i think he's doing a helluva job wheeling and dealing along with others in this Draft.Give the Dolphins some time. Consulting with co-GM @Ministry of Pain. . Time for lunch anyway. We have a few good choices. Oline or dline.
Imagining @Ministry of Pain going MOP on a Flintstones-sized rack of ribs while pouring through player notes
-QG
There a live stream available somewhere for this?Give the Dolphins some time. Consulting with co-GM @Ministry of Pain.
The Lions are interested in coming up but this is probably a little too far and I am not sure the Bears want to trade in the division...but Detroit is interested in coming upI have the Bears OTC here at 37 and I'm open to moving down. If it's a moderate trade-down then I'd want to add a 3rd, if it's a small one then maybe you'd just be moving down from your 3rd to 99 or 122.
Titans would consider a trade down here. 24 picks is a bit far but could do your 61 and 73 for the 38. Points are close enough - 520 / 517 https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=DetThe Lions are interested in coming up but this is probably a little too far and I am not sure the Bears want to trade in the division...but Detroit is interested in coming upI have the Bears OTC here at 37 and I'm open to moving down. If it's a moderate trade-down then I'd want to add a 3rd, if it's a small one then maybe you'd just be moving down from your 3rd to 99 or 122.
I'll trade with anyone; DM'd.The Lions are interested in coming up but this is probably a little too far and I am not sure the Bears want to trade in the division...but Detroit is interested in coming upI have the Bears OTC here at 37 and I'm open to moving down. If it's a moderate trade-down then I'd want to add a 3rd, if it's a small one then maybe you'd just be moving down from your 3rd to 99 or 122.
Barton wasn't a sexy choice, but he has a good floor. He's versatile, hopefully he's much better than Liam.I think SoBe chose wisely, you can see by who I took at No 8 that projected draft spots mean nothing to me, it's where can i get the guy i want.
Responded. If we have a deal post it here.I'll trade with anyone; DM'd.The Lions are interested in coming up but this is probably a little too far and I am not sure the Bears want to trade in the division...but Detroit is interested in coming upI have the Bears OTC here at 37 and I'm open to moving down. If it's a moderate trade-down then I'd want to add a 3rd, if it's a small one then maybe you'd just be moving down from your 3rd to 99 or 122.
Rehearsal Dinner tomorrow and my son's wedding Friday, I'm going to be very hard to reach next couple daysBarton wasn't a sexy choice, but he has a good floor. He's versatile, hopefully he's much better than Liam.I think SoBe chose wisely, you can see by who I took at No 8 that projected draft spots mean nothing to me, it's where can i get the guy i want.
My sexy high upside choice on the oline would've been that Kinglsey dude who reached 21.5 mph as a freshman. Sorry for not doing a final consultation but I didn't want to hold up the show too long and i had a zoom meeting 1 to 2. These things are not easy to do between activities at work. I think some of the guys we mentioned could be there at 55 and 66. Everyone knows the dline is a mess to start the season without Chubb, Phillips, Wilkins, and Davis. The attempt to get Murphy ... I wonder if Grier tries it, he's not afraid to trade up - most of his have backfired, but Howard was a tradeup success.
Chicago trades pick 37 to Detroit for 61 & 73.
Pick incomingChicago trades pick 37 to Detroit for 61 & 73.
I'll trade #64 and #71 for #38, assuming Detroit doesn't take the guy I want.Chicago trades pick 37 to Detroit for 61 & 73.
Titans pick available for a similar deal
You have Barton at 35 and 3718) Cincinnati Bengals - Jer'Zhan Newton - DT - ILLINOIS
19) Chicago Bears (via Los Angeles Rams) - DT Byron Murphy II, Texas
20) Pittsburgh Steelers - RT - JC Latham, Alabama
21) Arizona Cardinals (via Miami Dolphins) - Troy Fautanu OL Washington
22) Philadelphia Eagles - Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama
23) Los Angeles Rams (via Chicago Bears (via Los Angeles Chargers (via Minnesota Vikings (from Cleveland through Houston)))) - Laiatu Latu DE, UCLA
24) Dallas Cowboys - Jackson Powers Johnson, C, Oregon
25) Green Bay Packers - OT - Amarius Mims
26) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State
27) Kansas City Chiefs (via Arizona Cardinals (from Houston)) - Brian Thomas Jr, WR LSU
28) Buffalo Bills - Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas
29) Detroit Lions - Kool Aid Mckinstry CB, Alabama
30) Baltimore Ravens - Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma
31) San Francisco 49ers - Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
32) Arizona Cardinals (via Kansas City Chiefs) - Ladd McConkey WR Georgia
Round 2
33) Carolina Panthers - Edge Chris Braswell, Alabama
34) New England Patriots - Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
35) Miami Dolphins (via Arizona Cardinals) - OL, Graham Barton, Duke
36) Washington Commanders - OT Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
37) Chicago Bears (via Los Angeles Chargers) - Graham Barton, IOL, Duke
38) Tennessee Titans
39) Carolina Panthers (from N.Y. Giants)
40) Washington Commanders (from Chicago)
41) Green Bay Packers (from N.Y. Jets)
i saw it. i'm in a little bit of a brain fog atm. someone wanna summarize the trade(s)?You have Barton at 35 and 3718) Cincinnati Bengals - Jer'Zhan Newton - DT - ILLINOIS
19) Chicago Bears (via Los Angeles Rams) - DT Byron Murphy II, Texas
20) Pittsburgh Steelers - RT - JC Latham, Alabama
21) Arizona Cardinals (via Miami Dolphins) - Troy Fautanu OL Washington
22) Philadelphia Eagles - Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama
23) Los Angeles Rams (via Chicago Bears (via Los Angeles Chargers (via Minnesota Vikings (from Cleveland through Houston)))) - Laiatu Latu DE, UCLA
24) Dallas Cowboys - Jackson Powers Johnson, C, Oregon
25) Green Bay Packers - OT - Amarius Mims
26) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State
27) Kansas City Chiefs (via Arizona Cardinals (from Houston)) - Brian Thomas Jr, WR LSU
28) Buffalo Bills - Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas
29) Detroit Lions - Kool Aid Mckinstry CB, Alabama
30) Baltimore Ravens - Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma
31) San Francisco 49ers - Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
32) Arizona Cardinals (via Kansas City Chiefs) - Ladd McConkey WR Georgia
Round 2
33) Carolina Panthers - Edge Chris Braswell, Alabama
34) New England Patriots - Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
35) Miami Dolphins (via Arizona Cardinals) - OL, Graham Barton, Duke
36) Washington Commanders - OT Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
37) Chicago Bears (via Los Angeles Chargers) - Graham Barton, IOL, Duke
38) Tennessee Titans
39) Carolina Panthers (from N.Y. Giants)
40) Washington Commanders (from Chicago)
41) Green Bay Packers (from N.Y. Jets)
Unless you have a taker, you appear to be OTCChicago trades pick 37 to Detroit for 61 & 73.
Titans pick available for a similar deal
Chicago trades pick 37 to Detroit for 61 & 73.i saw it. i'm in a little bit of a brain fog atm. someone wanna summarize the trade(s)?You have Barton at 35 and 3718) Cincinnati Bengals - Jer'Zhan Newton - DT - ILLINOIS
19) Chicago Bears (via Los Angeles Rams) - DT Byron Murphy II, Texas
20) Pittsburgh Steelers - RT - JC Latham, Alabama
21) Arizona Cardinals (via Miami Dolphins) - Troy Fautanu OL Washington
22) Philadelphia Eagles - Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama
23) Los Angeles Rams (via Chicago Bears (via Los Angeles Chargers (via Minnesota Vikings (from Cleveland through Houston)))) - Laiatu Latu DE, UCLA
24) Dallas Cowboys - Jackson Powers Johnson, C, Oregon
25) Green Bay Packers - OT - Amarius Mims
26) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State
27) Kansas City Chiefs (via Arizona Cardinals (from Houston)) - Brian Thomas Jr, WR LSU
28) Buffalo Bills - Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas
29) Detroit Lions - Kool Aid Mckinstry CB, Alabama
30) Baltimore Ravens - Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma
31) San Francisco 49ers - Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
32) Arizona Cardinals (via Kansas City Chiefs) - Ladd McConkey WR Georgia
Round 2
33) Carolina Panthers - Edge Chris Braswell, Alabama
34) New England Patriots - Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
35) Miami Dolphins (via Arizona Cardinals) - OL, Graham Barton, Duke
36) Washington Commanders - OT Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
37) Chicago Bears (via Los Angeles Chargers) - Graham Barton, IOL, Duke
38) Tennessee Titans
39) Carolina Panthers (from N.Y. Giants)
40) Washington Commanders (from Chicago)
41) Green Bay Packers (from N.Y. Jets)
I dont even see any picks by Cleveland did i just miss it?Looking to potentially trade the Raiders 2024 2nd (#44 - 460 pts) and 4th (#112 - 70 pts) for someone's lower 2nd and 3rd rounders.
Cleveland is one team I was looking at, as their 2nd and 4th combine for 525 pts; they have not had a pick yet at all and may want to move up to grab a target. But I don't see anyone managing their picks.
Pick 37 (from the Bears)
2.5 The Detroit Lions select Zach Frazier IOL West Virginia
- 4x State Wrestling Champion
Yep, Frazier isn't the super athlete Ragnow is and probably doesn't have quite the upside but those wrestling backgrounds are usually a sign that the player has a mastery of leverage, balance and an incredibly strong grip. All things you need playing on the interior especially. His arms are short but his hands are 99th percentile for IOL. If he does get those paws on your, it's over.Pick 37 (from the Bears)
2.5 The Detroit Lions select Zach Frazier IOL West Virginia
- 4x State Wrestling Champion
I love that bullet point. It seems to always make for great IOLs.
Question. Kinsley's measurable are off the chart and he did a great job at tackle for 2 years. Why isn't he a 1st round grade by more analysts?Washington Commanders
2.04 -- OT Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
The Commanders' war room watches helplessly - and with intense fear and loathing - as many of the players they'd been targeting for the top of the second round come off the board early, then breathe a collective sigh of relief as their future starting LT drops into their laps.
Yep, Frazier isn't the super athlete Ragnow is and probably doesn't have quite the upside but those wrestling backgrounds are usually a sign that the player has a mastery or leverage, balance and an incredibly strong grip. All things you need playing on the interior especially. His arms are short but his hands are 99th percentile for IOL. If he does get those paws on your, it's over.Pick 37 (from the Bears)
2.5 The Detroit Lions select Zach Frazier IOL West Virginia
- 4x State Wrestling Champion
I love that bullet point. It seems to always make for great IOLs.
After the Watson and Jeudy trades, Cleveland is entering the draft with these selectionsI dont even see any picks by Cleveland did i just miss it?Looking to potentially trade the Raiders 2024 2nd (#44 - 460 pts) and 4th (#112 - 70 pts) for someone's lower 2nd and 3rd rounders.
Cleveland is one team I was looking at, as their 2nd and 4th combine for 525 pts; they have not had a pick yet at all and may want to move up to grab a target. But I don't see anyone managing their picks.
My guy is still here, should I take that thumbs up as an accept? @-OZ-I'll trade #64 and #71 for #38, assuming Detroit doesn't take the guy I want.Chicago trades pick 37 to Detroit for 61 & 73.
Titans pick available for a similar deal
I dont even see any picks by Cleveland did i just miss it?Looking to potentially trade the Raiders 2024 2nd (#44 - 460 pts) and 4th (#112 - 70 pts) for someone's lower 2nd and 3rd rounders.
Cleveland is one team I was looking at, as their 2nd and 4th combine for 525 pts; they have not had a pick yet at all and may want to move up to grab a target. But I don't see anyone managing their picks.
I can only tell you that his ranking seems to be pretty consistent across platforms.....here's a few....Question. Kinsley's measurable are off the chart and he did a great job at tackle for 2 years. Why isn't he a 1st round grade by more analysts?Washington Commanders
2.04 -- OT Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
The Commanders' war room watches helplessly - and with intense fear and loathing - as many of the players they'd been targeting for the top of the second round come off the board early, then breathe a collective sigh of relief as their future starting LT drops into their laps.
A mini-run on the oline. 5 of the last 8 selections.
I can only tell you that his ranking seems to be pretty consistent across platforms.....here's a few....Question. Kinsley's measurable are off the chart and he did a great job at tackle for 2 years. Why isn't he a 1st round grade by more analysts?Washington Commanders
2.04 -- OT Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
The Commanders' war room watches helplessly - and with intense fear and loathing - as many of the players they'd been targeting for the top of the second round come off the board early, then breathe a collective sigh of relief as their future starting LT drops into their laps.
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For sure Amon Ra is an incredibly hard worker but don’t forget coming out of HS, he was a 5 star recruit. 247 had him as the 10th best player in the country. Rivals had at number 3. That’s at any position. So Amon Ra is a case of a super elite prospect delivering the kind of results expected of him his whole career. The NFL just missed the boat because he didn’t run 4.4.On that note, I was hating player comps I was reading, and then i got lazy and decided about ten of them comp to Aman-Ra. His super power has been work ethic and motivation. So intangibles weigh heavy on these guys.
My guy is still here, should I take that thumbs up as an accept? @-OZ-I'll trade #64 and #71 for #38, assuming Detroit doesn't take the guy I want.Chicago trades pick 37 to Detroit for 61 & 73.
Titans pick available for a similar deal