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I own Gibson and would probably take that offer. But, I have pretty good RB’s (Henry, Akers, Gibson, David Johnson,, Gaskin, Penny) and I could use a little WR help and I like the rookie WR’s.
That is kind of what I was thinking as well.
He might be. But this is kind of like the real-life Texans situation. If all you have is one guy, you're not winning many games. You should try to turn that into multiple pieces even if none of the individual pieces are independently as good as the one piece. But then again, maybe he feels better about his roster than I do.
I agree with your take on this but I also think the offer wasn't enough. Not bad though. I'd also remove the 2nd coming back to you as others have said.
It depends on what the rest of your roster looks like.
Right, and if I don't have anything else on my team (like this guy), I'll stick with the guy who I "know" is going to be a stud for me rather than take a gamble on Gainwell. I can get a WR anytime anywhere.
I think the key word is "know." The reason I thought the trade was fair is because I'm not so certain that Gibson is a sure thing. I think he'll be decent, but I'm not sure he's going to be a stud. If you feel strongly that way, I agree you should keep him.
Very very true.
I am actually a Gibson owner - fell in love and am a Cowboys fan. I love Gibson's potential and I can't invision a situation where I part with him for something another owner is willing to pay.
Yeah. It has to be enough to tip the scales.
I am glad you and I aren’t in any dynasty leagues together (to my knowledge). We think too much alike on this type of strategy and would never be able to come to an agreeable trade arrangement.Andy Dufresne said:
Yes, current depth chart is Gibson, McKissic, Barber and Miller (I can see one of the last two not making the final roster though).
They're talented Doc.
I think you're mostly spot on. IMHO, they are not close to being legit (SB) contenders, but this is offset what I believe to be their belief that the NFCE is as winnable as it was last year, therefore in their minds, it makes sense to prioritize the short term as legit contenders to win the Division, then see what happens. You're absolutely right that there are too many other needs, to prioritize RB in the Draft...but there is a concern at RB that needs to be addressed, and its not 3rd-string RB...it's RB 1C, to mesh with RB 1A (Gibson) and RB 1B (McKissic).
Gibson is going to have a fantastic year me thinks. LOTS of opportunities and touches on a team who's defense will ensure that offense has the ball a lot. And with Fitzmagic they should be able to move the offense more too. I don't know how many games they will win this year, they do have a really hard schedule, but I honestly believe they will be competitive and have a shot to win most games on the schedule. Haven't been this excited about a season in a loong long time.
Vegas odds have Washington at .500 this year as their O/U wins is 8.5 in a new 17 game season.
That's a good point, unless they do just greatly increase Gibson's touches this year. But if he's playing that well Ron would have no problem feeding him repeatedly based on his history I'd say.
There are 2 sides of the coin. One they didn't have all that many injuries last year (first time in a while). That could change this year.Deamon said:
Ya I don't see them as bottom 8. I think they will actually improve by a win or two this year. But even IF they do that, that still only puts them at 8-9 or 9-8 and likely out of the playoffs. People forget that they were a 7-9 team last year.
I think they are 11-6 or 10-7 barring bad injuries. People underestimate just how bad their qb play was. I think that they were like 1 and 6 with Haskins at qb. . Dallas is a highly potent offense but it is only going to be as good as it was the first 5 or so games of last season. They were horrid on Defense for quite a bit of the season especially before Dak got hurt. They rightly went hard at Defense in the draft but opinions vary on how they did, we will see. The Giants are good on Defense and have potential on offense but i am not sure how good their qb is. The eagles i am not sure of what their plan is. They have lots of picks but have some holes to fill .
I don't think the division will be particularly strong, but I think Dallas improves enough and maybe even the Giants, where it isn't historically bad again. It's going to take 9-10 wins to win the div this year.
I think they are better than 4 and 2 in the divison. As for the rest of the list i see Bills, Chiefs and Bucs better then them. I have a feeling Seattle falls of this year, and who knows how saints and packers are at qb this year depending on holdouts and replacing veterans. If Rodgers goes to Denver then they become forminable.
Better than 4-2 in the division is almost impossible man. Div games are always close. Wash went 4-2 in the division last year.... when it was historically bad. And you think they'll go 5-1 in the div this year?! You say it will be close that they win the div, but still think they go 5-1 in the div... that's wild.
No chance of me betting ever. I don't bet any pro sports games or any other thing than say a lotto ticket or slot machines. If you look at the seasons end last year look at TB and KC. No one exposed the KC OL all season and TB did. It's arguable that any of the TB opponents in the playoff played TB better than KC did.
Big difference between 9 and 11 wins. You make good points but we'll agree to disagree. I just think Washington probably hovers about how they were last year. Improve a bit at QB and Defense, but way harder opponents and tougher division. And they were a 6-7 win team last year. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and give them 8-9 wins. I don't think they're a playoff team. But we will see soon enough.
I certainly could be wrong. I see some changes in the NFC though. I don't see NO, GB or Seattle being as good as they were last year. NO and GB due to the QB position(assuming rodgers being gone which i think he forces) and i think Seattle Def is finally get older. I think SF and Minn will be much improved. I think they are going to have the 7 playoff poistions again so that means that you could say have LAR, SF,TB,one of Minn/Chicago winning the NFCC,one of Dallas/WFT winning the NFCE. That leaves 2 playoff spots open. In any case it looks to be a fairly competitive season in the NFC so well see what happens.
One thing about 2020 though. their schedule was probably worse last year. They faced NFC West and AFC Central which between the two produced 5 playoff teams so not like they had a cake walk schedule outside of the division. For me the Fitz signing is not win now. It was the most effective thing they could have done with the money spent. They were so bad last year at qb they had to add someone. They were rumored to be talking to Det for Stafford but didn't get him. A win now move would be the big trade for a Watson or Rodgers type. And i am not so sure Rodgers fits this team unless he chills out. He helped run out the last coach and now wants to get rid of the GM. He is a HOF level player but he is acting like a 4 year old pouting about not being able to pick players he wants. Most players don't get to do that either.
I would want Watson over Rodgers if given a choice anyway. I know the allegations aren't great with Watson right now but as far as the team mate, leader, player he's been on the field and off the field in the community...I'll take that over Rodgers all day long.
I think for WFT to trade for Watson he would have to be basically cleared at least by Law Enforcement and the league unless they do it for stupid value like a 3rd. Watson last year had nothing like a Davante Adams at WR and had no real running threat at RB. He is also much younger than Rodgers. Personally if I am the Packers I would move him for a huge deal. If i don't get that then enjoy retirement....
Yes, my bad, you are correct. I think 7-4 out of the division for them is going to be extremely unlikely.
What division is the AFC Central?
Great run-down. The schedule and division get significantly harder but yes, QB play should be better. I give them an extra win... 2 tops this year. 8 or 9 wins seems perfect.
I think you are also blurred on how bad the QB play was for most of the year. They have made other significant improvements as well. WR group is way better. WFT looks pretty strong everywhere except QB, and again huge improvement there even if still bad.
