FFA Movie Poll - 1989 It's snail paced Countdown Monday!! (1 Viewer)

[wikkidpissah]

How many points did Let it Ride get?  I can't be the only one that liked that movie?  It is full of great lines and Dryfuss was on fire the entire movie.

Can I buy you a drink?

Sure, I don't see why not.... I'm on the pill.

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I've got the 4 horse!

The 4 horse?  Nobody bets the 4 horse!  That's the horse they use for the kids to ride and have their picture taken!

it was my #8

 

[Don Quixote]

Uncle Buck got dissed.  John Candy at his best.  But obviously that's not good enough for the comedy snobs on this board.  You guys are almost as bad as "the academy" when it comes to comedies.

I must have missed when Major League won Best Picture at the Oscars.

wat?

Major League finished #1 overall.  I just think that comparing the results to the Academy when it comes to comedies seems a weird complaint, for this year in particular.

 

[Hov34]

Major League finished #1 overall.  I just think that comparing the results to the Academy when it comes to comedies seems a weird complaint, for this year in particular.

True, doesn't hurt that it is a "sports" movie on a "sports" board", but point taken.  I was more speaking to the tone of these rankings over all.  Most of the comedies get trumped by more serious films. Like Dead Poets, My Left Foot, and Roadhouse???  All ahead of Say Anything to me is crazy, but still fun to see the conversation.

 

[Scoresman]

True, doesn't hurt that it is a "sports" movie on a "sports" board", but point taken.  I was more speaking to the tone of these rankings over all.  Most of the comedies get trumped by more serious films. Like Dead Poets, My Left Foot, and Roadhouse???  All ahead of Say Anything to me is crazy, but still fun to see the conversation.

Probably an age thing.  I grew up in the 80s and to me the decade is all about goofy comedies, blockbuster action movies and cheese.  I can probably count the serious dramas from the 80s that I like on one hand, meanwhile, movies like Ghostbusters, Karate Kid, and Goonies are timeless classics to me.   

 

[Ilov80s]

True, doesn't hurt that it is a "sports" movie on a "sports" board", but point taken.  I was more speaking to the tone of these rankings over all.  Most of the comedies get trumped by more serious films. Like Dead Poets, My Left Foot, and Roadhouse???  All ahead of Say Anything to me is crazy, but still fun to see the conversation.

One could argue Roadhouse is a comedy. I know I laugh at it whenever I see it.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Perhaps the only redemption in this pool was that the obscenely overrated Do The Right Thing missed the Top 8.

 

[Gr00vus]

Maybe we need a break.

 

[Gr00vus]

O.k. break's over. Where's the 92 thread?

 

[Gr00vus]

I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that.

How are you feeling sir?

I'M INCARCERATED LLOYD!!!

 

[Gr00vus]

Look @otb_lifer, @krista4 @Hov34 and all you other folks who are nonplussed at the voting results. If we don't keep these threads alive, all that will be left in terms of movie talk here will be the venerable recently seen rental movie thread and then umpteen star wars and comic book film threads. And those are awful, truly awful. I will hold you all personally responsible if that's what we're left with, in which case I'll curse each and every one of you such that every future movie experience you have will be as bad as or worse than sitting through The Shadow. Well, it can't possibly be worse than that, but maybe just as bad. Choose wisely.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Look @otb_lifer, @krista4 @Hov34 and all you other folks who are nonplussed at the voting results. If we don't keep these threads alive, all that will be left in terms of movie talk here will be the venerable recently seen rental movie thread and then umpteen star wars and comic book film threads. And those are awful, truly awful. I will hold you all personally responsible if that's what we're left with, in which case I'll curse each and every one of you such that every future movie experience you have will be as bad as or worse than sitting through The Shadow. Well, it can't possibly be worse than that, but maybe just as bad. Choose wisely.

Agreed.

Except Infinity War was awesome.

 

[Gr00vus]

Agreed.

Except Infinity War was awesome.

The movies might be good, but the threads are awful, truly awful.

 

[Brony]

Thanks for organizing this KP.  Fun to follow along and reminisce.  I didn't even vote for Major League, but it is representative of a year with few quality movies of broad appeal. 

 

[Yankee23Fan]

The movies might be good, but the threads are awful, truly awful.

Truth.

 

[Eephus]

Yeah, and it seems like a good number of respected movies that did not even make the cutoff, assuming the two left are what I think... Driving Miss Daisy, Henry V, Sex, Lies, and Videotape, and Fabulous Baker Boys (my favorite first watch for this poll) for a few.

Barely missed the cut.  If I wasn't so lazy and I took the cutoff to 50 those two and another movie would have been on the countdown.

The punchline here was "Juuuuust a bit outside"

 

[krista4]

Yeah, I dropped out not because I didn't like the rankings, but because I didn't consider myself qualified enough and couldn't put in the time to get up to speed. I should actually know 1992, though maybe 1994 might be an easier year. Given the lists, I might be back in, though I'm no otb or Krista.  

Y'all wanted to know that, right. 

To be clear, I haven't liked any of the rankings.  This is not new.  The only #1 I agree with is Godfather II.  I despised Inception but at least get why it came out where it did.   Major League is a good movie.  But c'mon.  This year's rankings really hammered home how inane this is.

That said, who knows - maybe I'll keep throwing in lists.  I haven't looked at '92 yet.

 

[Eephus]

I think it's telling of how awesome this movie is that the worst review we could find still kind of praised it. Now get this damn thing at least on Blu Ray if not 4k!

I don't think I've ever watched Major League all the way through in one sitting. And Field of Dreams only once.

Primarily because baseball is not interesting.

NARRATOR:  In a world where baseball is not interesting and James Cameron is...

 

[krista4]

Here's the thing - I am going to chalk this one to agreeing with what ilov80s said - it wasn't a top heavy year to begin with.  1992 will get us back to a year where I THINK the popular will also mix with some critically praised movies.   I would assume Unforgiven, A Few Good Men, Glengarry,  and Reservoir Dogs will be the movies at the top fighting.  We aren't going to ever get many foreign movies, documentaries,  or "snobby" dramas (PTA, Aronofsky, etc..)  in the top few spots.  I expect those to be scattered at the bottom of the countdown with a couple getting into the top 7-15 or so.  

Like Floppo said, if we don't like the results of this countdown, the reaction should be more participation and discussion about these other movies.  The more this tilts to one side or the other, the less fun this is going to be.  Even if people like krista or otb_ seriously aren't going to continue submitting lists, I would still love them to come in for the banter and to throw out a few titles that they think people should try when the new threads open up.   The voting is 1/2 of it, but I think 1/2 is also getting people to watch something they might not have otherwise.  I have throttled my watching a little so I can participate more in the actual year's thread instead of being so far ahead.  I think the banter was lacking a little in this one, and that could have been a little to do with the make up of the type of movies for the year too.  

Hopefully we don't lose more and more people.  IMO 20+ lists is where we should be targeting to try to get a mix of types of lists.  

I will also comment that it seems like the voters who lean towards the "snobby" side of things also seem to have more movies on their lists.  

This is what I said when I posted last night - I'll still be in the threads and participating even if I don't submit lists.

By the way, the references to "snobby" movies always crack me up.  Someone like [name redacted] is every bit as much a "snob" against foreign, documentaries, etc. based on his posts.

 

[rockaction]

To be clear, I haven't liked any of the rankings.  This is not new.  The only #1 I agree with is Godfather II.  I despised Inception but at least get why it came out where it did.   Major League is a good movie.  But c'mon.  This year's rankings really hammered home how inane this is.

That said, who knows - maybe I'll keep throwing in lists.  I haven't looked at '92 yet.

I hope I wasn't implying that. I was more just saying that I dropped out because it should be taken a bit seriously, and I had nothing to add, but that I might come back. If you all are going to hold down the fort, that's also cool. I don't think I want to watch Howard's End or Unforgiven, and I know I should want to. 

I just...

don't. 

 

[rockaction]

I'm hardly a cinephile and I like foreign and docs. 

So I should the most popular person in this thread, right? 

Right? 

 

[krista4]

I hope I wasn't implying that. I was more just saying that I dropped out because it should be taken a bit seriously, and I had nothing to add, but that I might come back. If you all are going to hold down the fort, that's also cool. I don't think I want to watch Howard's End or Unforgiven, and I know I should want to. 

I just...

don't. 

Oh, that shouldn't stop you at all from participating.  

Wait, you haven't seen Unforgiven?  What kind of monster are you?  

 

[Hov34]

So, back to discussing movies:  UHF didn't even break 30 points and I've never seen it.  It's $7 right now on Vudu.  Worth it from anyone who liked it?

 

[rockaction]

Oh, that shouldn't stop you at all from participating.  

Wait, you haven't seen Unforgiven?  What kind of monster are you?  

This kind? 

Nicki (NSFW)

 

[otb_lifer]

So, back to discussing movies:  UHF didn't even break 30 points and I've never seen it.  It's $7 right now on Vudu.  Worth it from anyone who liked it?

they're all free for me with Kodi - it's an embarrassment of motion picture riches - but,  if i had to pay for any of it, i'd be all  :X  

 

[Gr00vus]

I was more just saying that I dropped out because it should be taken a bit seriously

I've been working under the opposite assumption. It's great just reading all the chatter, getting introduced to some films I otherwise would never have known about, and giving @KarmaPolice something to do other than washing dishes.

The world has already voted on these with their wallets, it's no surprise that things that have done well at the box office have done well in these drafts, while some of the more cinematically worthy but not as generally popular films haven't done so well. The FFA is pretty representative of the general movie going public. I never expect consensus vindication of otherwise slighted films, but from time to time you do get some wider appreciation for previously under the radar stuff.

 

[Hov34]

BTW, here is the list from bottom to top, I like looking at it like this:

#26  60pts  TANGO & CASH

#25  66pts  DEAD CALM

#24  79pts  PARENTHOOD

#23  85pts  GHOSTBUSTERS II

#22  89pts  DRUGSTORE COWBOY

#21  93pts  THE 'BURBS

#19  94pts  THE LITTLE MERMAID

#19  94pts  UNCLE BUCK

#18 95pts  LETHAL WEAPON 2

#17  100pts  CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS

#16  107pts  BACK TO THE FUTURE PART II

#14  115pts  BORN OF THE 4TH OF JULY

#14  115pts  BATMAN

#13  118pts  SAY ANYTHING...

#12  135pts  ROAD HOUSE

#10  140pts  MY LEFT FOOT

#10  140pts  DO THE RIGHT THING

#9  145pts  THE ABYSS

#8  180pts  BILL & TED'S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE

#7  228pts  NATIONAL LAMPOON'S CHRISTMAS VACATION

#6  233pts  DEAD POETS SOCIETY

#5  249pts  WHEN HARRY MET SALLY....

#4  253pts  FIELD OF DREAMS

#3  254pts  INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

#2  270pts  GLORY

#1  277pts  MAJOR LEAGUE

 

[Hov34]

Say Anything not even in the top 10 is criminal.

 

[Scoresman]

I'm glad these lists dont end up looking like a copy paste from an IMDB top movie list.  What would be the point if they did?

 

[Gr00vus]

Another thing to keep in mind for the 80's and early 90's is that period probably covers the pre-pubescent/high school/college years for a lot of us. Judgement of cinematic merit is definitely taking a back seat to sentimental/lizard brain impulses with a lot of the films during this period.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

This is what I said when I posted last night - I'll still be in the threads and participating even if I don't submit lists.

By the way, the references to "snobby" movies always crack me up.  Someone like [name redacted] is every bit as much a "snob" against foreign, documentaries, etc. based on his posts.

Name me - throw stuff.  That's the fun.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

#2  270pts

14/5

Give 'em Hell, 54!

Heavy-Handed, Emotional War Story

Here's another one of those films I really, really liked on the first go-round and was very disappointed on the second look years later. Maybe, by the second viewing after I had watched thousands of movies since first seeing this, I just got tired of the "race issue." Yeah, I am sure black people had to get treated with little respect back in the Civil War days, as well as many other days until recent decades, but I don't need to be shown the evil white man for two straight hours. We get the point earlier on and it doesn't need to hammered over and over and over. Denzel Washington, as great an actor as he is, seems to specialize in race-issue movies. He and Spike Lee need to move on. In this movie, every Caucasion but one (played by Matthew Broderick) is a racist bad-guy. Enough said.
 

GLORY

I mean why couldn't they have left out all those silly "race issues" in a movie about a black regimen fighting during the civil war?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

One could argue Roadhouse is a comedy. I know I laugh at it whenever I see it.

Who doesn't laugh when everyone in the bar runs outside to watch the big fight, including Jeff Healy?

 

[rockaction]

Who doesn't laugh when everyone in the bar runs outside to watch the big fight, including Jeff Healy?

He listens to the vibrations in the floor.  

 

[Scoresman]

Captain Ron and 3 Ninja's both getting 30 for 1992.  If you don't like that, just leave the thread now.  

 

[otb_lifer]

Captain Ron

will make my cut - Russell was never better. 

never. better. 

OK, maybe as Herbie Brooks ... but, other than that, never. 

OK, maybe as Snake Pliskin, but, other than that ....

"uhh, we should call him Captain MOR-RRRON!!!". 

Short was so ####### cucked  , hell, the Cap could've scored the Mother/Daughter threesome if he wanted (Caroline  was "of age", no?)

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Single digits:

Honey, I Shrunk the Kids

License to Kill

Loverboy

See No Evil, Hear No Evil

The Dream Team

Turner & Hootch

Weekend at Bernie's

Karate Kid 3

No Holds Barred

Nightmare on Elm St. 5

Teen Witch

Wicked Stepmother

Friday the 13th Part 8

The Wizard

See the reason some of you don't realise the greatness that was this year is because you don't like or didn't watch the best movies.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Look @otb_lifer, @krista4 @Hov34 and all you other folks who are nonplussed at the voting results. If we don't keep these threads alive, all that will be left in terms of movie talk here will be the venerable recently seen rental movie thread and then umpteen star wars and comic book film threads. And those are awful, truly awful. I will hold you all personally responsible if that's what we're left with, in which case I'll curse each and every one of you such that every future movie experience you have will be as bad as or worse than sitting through The Shadow. Well, it can't possibly be worse than that, but maybe just as bad. Choose wisely.

The Shadow? starring Alec Baldwin? Probably top 5  10 for 94. 

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

Yeah, and it seems like a good number of respected movies that did not even make the cutoff, assuming the two left are what I think... Driving Miss Daisy, Henry V, Sex, Lies, and Videotape, and Fabulous Baker Boys (my favorite first watch for this poll) for a few.

One of my favorites from '89.  The Bridges brothers and Pfeiffer were all very good in this film.  Disappointed that it didn't crack the countdown. 

 

[Ilov80s]

I hope I wasn't implying that. I was more just saying that I dropped out because it should be taken a bit seriously, and I had nothing to add, but that I might come back. If you all are going to hold down the fort, that's also cool. I don't think I want to watch Howard's End or Unforgiven, and I know I should want to. 

I just...

don't. 

Dude you got to watch Unforgiven. 

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Dude you got to watch Unforgiven. 

When Ilove80s, Krista, and myself all agree it must be so 

 

[rockaction]

When Ilove80s, Krista, and myself all agree it must be so 

Such is my charge.  

 

[El Floppo]

Such is my charge.  

It's the worst.

 

[Gr00vus]

Such is my charge.  

Unforgiven is the closure on Eastwood's westerns. It's both a counterpoint to his Spaghetti westerns and somewhat a conclusion to the exploration of the conflicted "principled gunslinger with a cause" he started in Outlaw Josey Wales along with the anti-hero he started in High Plains Drifter.

If you didn't like any of those, you probably won't like this one either.

 

[Eephus]

Unforgiven is the closure on Eastwood's westerns. It's both a counterpoint to his Spaghetti westerns and somewhat a conclusion to the exploration of the conflicted "principled gunslinger with a cause" he started in Outlaw Josey Wales along with the anti-hero he started in High Plains Drifter.

If you didn't like any of those, you probably won't like this one either.

This is strictly for guys, and for people who don't believe in God. Everybody is nasty all the time, and the only good people in the movie are prostitutes. And Eastwood as a director is even more annoying than he is as a non-actor in this. All he wants to do is focus on blood and people in outhouse and houses of ill-repute, and show everything as dark and as nasty as he possibly can. This is the kind of movie that movie critics and Hollywood smart guys love because they get to "shock" everyone. Well, my only shock is that they made so much money with this nasty movie.

 

[KarmaPolice]

If you didn't like any of those, you probably won't like this one either.

Westerns might be my least favorite genre, but Unforgiven is a movie I really like.   It probably helps to like the others, but I would still encourage people to try it even if they don't like others of his or in that genre. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

I will fire up the 1992 thread after WWE tonight. 

 

[Gr00vus]

This is strictly for guys, and for people who don't believe in God. Everybody is nasty all the time, and the only good people in the movie are prostitutes. And Eastwood as a director is even more annoying than he is as a non-actor in this. All he wants to do is focus on blood and people in outhouse and houses of ill-repute, and show everything as dark and as nasty as he possibly can. This is the kind of movie that movie critics and Hollywood smart guys love because they get to "shock" everyone. Well, my only shock is that they made so much money with this nasty movie.

Yeah, the clearest through line in tone has always been from High Plains Drifter to Unforgiven for me, with those two standing as somewhat of a repudiation of his less dark Sergio Leone films and things like Three Mules For Sister Sarah. The difference with Unforgiven is that the premise of revenge motivating Munny is even weaker than it was in  the characters in some of  his other multiple previous revenge porn Westerns. The film is pretty much given over to wallowing in straight up gritty, dirty, violent misery. There's no redemption for anyone in it really, even the kid is going to be scarred for life.

 

[Eephus]

I'm not a big fan of Eastwood the director but Unforgiven is terrific

 

[Gr00vus]

I'm not a big fan of Eastwood the director but Unforgiven is terrific

I like the movie, much as I like High Plains Drifter (which I actually like more than Unforgiven), but I can also understand why others may not like it.

 

[TripItUp]

I love almost all Westerns so Unforgiven clearly in my wheelhouse.

Hackman, Freeman, Eastwood...them's the goods right there.

Where did Gene Hackman go?  The guy is an alltime great.  We need him back.