hines said:
tjnc09 said:
JuniorNB said:
I own Brees, Foles, and Cutler. I'm struggling to decide. Between Foles and Cutler.
New Orleans at Carolina has 17-13 written all over it. Brees and the Saints have played two divisional road games so far. At ATmpa Bay, which they won 16-14 and Brees only threw one touchdown pass. And at Atlanta, which they won 17-13 and Brees threw two TDs, but only 278 yards. I don't like him at all this week. Other than garbage time, the Rams shut him down. Brees has not thrown more than 2 touchdown passes in any road game this season.
this is crazy IMO. he is coming off a 400 yard game vs the Rams and just absolutely torched the Panthers for 313 and 4 TDs 8 days ago. in my scoring system Jay Cutler hasn't had a game all season that is as good as Brees game vs the Rams. to bench Brees for a guy whose best score doesn't reach Brees's average is incredibly poor decision making. maybe it works out, but you are hurting your odds by doing that
not only was I correct about benching Brees, I picked the exact score.Hopefully, this outs an end to that ridiculous 'never bench your studs' nonsense. You don't win fantasy championships by ignoring trends that are screaming right into your face. Drew Brees is an automatic start at home. On the road, especially outdoors, he's an average quarterback who averages just over one touchdown pass per game.
That simply was the whole reason I started this thread. Four of his last six games were on the road - Atlanta always plays NO tough, Seattle is no joke at home, STL was a bad matchup for them and Carolina was going to have a lot to play for this game. His other two - SF and Carolina were not matchups you wanted to see on paper although I was wrong about how well his home game vs. Carolina was going to play out.
Nobody is ever an auto start. You should always look at the skill set of the player, who they are playing, pace of the game and other relevant splits (home/away, primetime games) and at the very minimum consider them. Sometimes a marginal WW player will have a much better matchup on paper and sometimes you have to start your "stud" because no other possible replacements exist.
Even if Brees threw for 400 yards yesterday, starting him on the road against Carolina was not a smart play.
I think people would take your bench Brees thing a little more seriously if you actually listed where you would rank him each week. you never provided options beforehand (besides Fitzpatrick @Broncos over Brees vs Panthers and Rivers over Brees this week) and simply kept saying it's dumb to start Brees. It was a smart play to start Brees yesterday unless you had Manning and it almost always will be. it's because his floor and ceiling are both higher than any non-Peyton QB essentially every week. I'm not sure how you miss that.
Need extra ones for that.
My job isn't to decide your lineups for you. I have my own teams to worry about.
Here again are his home/away splits in FF points:
Home: 21.48, 32.78, 32.72, 33.18, 31.68, 15.10, 28.82
Away: 14.88, 19.32, 17.54, 21.18, 18.52, 7.78, 22.52, 14.14
So, when you say that his floor and ceiling are both higher than any non-Peyton QB essentially ever week you mean at home, right? I know you don't because you simply love the guy too much to consider the actual facts. That is "how I miss that" because I actually do some research.
You are completely missing the point on Fitzpatrick. Do you know over the past six weeks he has had 132 fantasy points. Brees has had 105. I will
what you have to say about that. I don't understand why you are being so myopic about that - I already stated I started Brees at home against Carolina. Look at the points above - how can I ignore his production at home?
But since you are so fascinated by that pick, your exercise should be to figure out how Fitzpatrick was "unlucky" not to have at least 10 more fantasy pts against Denver (here's your first hint: Hunter. Here's your second hint: 37-28).
Lastly, if you really do take time to cap Rivers at home against Oakland or Brees or on the road at Carolina, there is only one right answer.