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WR Van Jefferson, PIT (1 Viewer)
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Riffraff
Footballguy
You just throwing poop at the wall and hoping it sticks or did you look up the contract?
$12mil deadcap hit in 2022.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
are people really ,seriously supporting OBJ still to this day? haven't wee seen this movie before?
Darrell Henderson and Van Jefferson will be the beneficiaries. OBJ is the trap . don't buy into it.
Darrell Henderson and Van Jefferson will be the beneficiaries. OBJ is the trap . don't buy into it.
joey
Footballguy
What a difference a couple of days make. I picked up Van as an end of bench stash in FFPC (which is only 14 keepers, though) a few weeks ago. I needed to drop someone to activate Jeff Wilson in the amazing SF running game 
and, with the OBJ signing, Van seemed like the odd man out. Then a day or two later, Woods goes down. Is there an Undo button in FFPC? Ugh.
and, with the OBJ signing, Van seemed like the odd man out. Then a day or two later, Woods goes down. Is there an Undo button in FFPC? Ugh.
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Eights
Footballguy
Chaka
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Chaka
Footballguy
Yeah, Van he has a unique opportunity to expand his role, that had already grown when they let DJax go.
Presumably OBJ's game slots better into the Woods role because I don't think he's suited to be a field stretcher like DJax, or Jefferson. Am I right in believing that?
But OBJ isn't up to speed this week, he will probably play but McVay has not committed to that yet. So Van may be able to carve out a role that isn't primarily on low percentage routes.
Presumably OBJ's game slots better into the Woods role because I don't think he's suited to be a field stretcher like DJax, or Jefferson. Am I right in believing that?
But OBJ isn't up to speed this week, he will probably play but McVay has not committed to that yet. So Van may be able to carve out a role that isn't primarily on low percentage routes.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I watched the game from the 3rd qtr on and it appeared to me most of the passes to Jefferson were uncatchable.
zoonation
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I must have missed it, because the one I saw in the end zone he easy TD drop in the end zone you could provide?
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Chaka
Footballguy
He did drop that TD but he was also targeted twice in the end zone, which is a positive. Technically he had three end zone targets but one was a busted play.
Still his usage was identical to the previous three weeks before Woods went down. Which means OBJ likely won't impact his value RoS.
ETA: But I still dropped him for D'onta Foreman after last night's game.
Still his usage was identical to the previous three weeks before Woods went down. Which means OBJ likely won't impact his value RoS.
ETA: But I still dropped him for D'onta Foreman after last night's game.
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Truebluey
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Is it just me or does he somehow make every routine catch look difficult?
On a day when he had, what, 3 for 90 with a TD or something, he left so much more on the table. Should have positioned his feet on that TD catch from Kupp. Should have had several other 20-yard+ catches, but he just doesn't separate from the defensive backs.
On a day when he had, what, 3 for 90 with a TD or something, he left so much more on the table. Should have positioned his feet on that TD catch from Kupp. Should have had several other 20-yard+ catches, but he just doesn't separate from the defensive backs.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
The inefficiencies make him not worth owning. Was mad at myself for dropping after the 75 Td but then we went like 1 catch on 6 targets after it
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
georg013
Footballguy
Fortunately, OBJ was equally inefficient so the volume should continue. This is a receiver who has averaged nearly 7 targets the past 5 to 6 weeks in a pass happy offense. The defense is bleeding points and OBJ will never be fully healthy this season or learn the entire playbook before the end of the season. For this year at least, he could be sneaky value.
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Cowboysfan8
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Stupid Van Jefferson beat me last night by less than a pt , knocked me out of last playoff spot
Truebluey
Footballguy
Stupid
Van Jefferson
beat me last night by less than a pt , knocked me out of last playoff spot
My heartfelt sympathies. But he's been good for at least one long bomb a game for weeks now.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Yeah
I would’ve survived if it wasn’t for the rushing attempt for 10 yards. His only rush of the year wtf
Insein
Footballguy
That's the #### you'll remember forever.
I still remember a playoff game losing by 1 point. It was made worse because I was watching Cincinnati play and had Rudi Johnson and Chad Johnson. Rudi had 81 yards and that was the point I needed with 7 mins left to play. Then he lost 2 yards to 79. I was down a point. No big deal except Rudi didn't have a rush the rest of the game. Ok no big deal just need Ocho to get one more catch. Didn't get a target the rest of the game. The most excruciating 7 minutes of game time ever. Had I just saw the box score it would have been bad enough but tuning in and watching your loss live is like watching a car crash in slow motion while you're in it.
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Yuck
I had Kurt Warner in a ff playoff game in 2005, may have been the super bowl I can’t remember
He started out 10/10 with 100 yds and a td , then got hurt and never came back. I don’t remember how much I lost by but I remember it was not much
Youre right, you never forget this ####
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
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The Frankman
Footballguy
The Frankman
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
With OBJ going down, he’s certainly an intriguing buy. Woulda been nice to see him do more on 8 targets.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think that’s the issue - he didn’t step up with OBJ out and largely disappeared when OBJ arrived. Woods will be back and OBJ may as well, leaving Jefferson probably as the #3 there at best.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He could develop - he’s still young.
but he hasn’t shown much to date. And McVay stopped using him deep after a couple Of games.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
He's not bad, but not great. A really good pure deep threat, but not as much otherwise. The hands and the route precision need a lot of work IMO. FF value when attached to a wagon though.
It also seems like he had a kid tonight, so good for him!
Truebluey
Footballguy
He's not a strong WR. He doesn't fight for the ball and his positioning isn't great, nor his hands.
Pass.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He did go 50/800+/6 in his first year of getting any usage. He could get better. I’m just sayin, it’s a possibility.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
This Guy...this Is Not My Kind of Guy
massraider
Footballguy
maybe he was distracted and distraught during the game
either way makes for a good story to tell the kid one day
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I kinda doubt LAR keeps OBJ - maybe before he blew out his knee, but they’re without picks until the 5th round this year, they may lose their best defensive player if Donald retires, and Woods is coming back from an injury as well. If they pay a WR, they need them to play immediately.
I just can’t see them having the luxury of paying OBJ to rehab from blowing out that knee a 2nd time.
So VJ should get a chance next season as the WR3, possibly WR2 of Woods is slow to come back. IMO they’ll likely bring in someone cheap on a 1-year deal.
Speaking of, DJax must be absolutely kicking himself. He wanted out and cost himself playoff $ and a ring.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
WR3 on the Rams, will have some games you wish you'd known he would produce but predicting when to start him will be a challenge and frustrating.
@Insein it looks like he had knee surgery and was going back to see a specialist less than a month ago so he might be slow to show up in 2022, likely can be had off waivers in a month or after he is able to heal up.
@Insein it looks like he had knee surgery and was going back to see a specialist less than a month ago so he might be slow to show up in 2022, likely can be had off waivers in a month or after he is able to heal up.
