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WR Cooper Kupp, LAR (1 Viewer)

Take your time, Cooper.
Puka owner? šŸ˜€
Both. Lots invested in these two now.

Puka seems fine. Cooper comes back who knows!

Mostly just salty because the day I drafted Kupp was saying heā€™s feeling great, then a week later heā€™s seeing some witch doctor in Minnesota :lol:
I want to live in a world where Kupp comes back healthy in week 5 as a WR1 while Puka becomes a reliable WR2 RoS. Do we live in that world?
 
Jourdan Rodrigue
Sean McVay says itā€™s still ā€œthe hopeā€ that Cooper Kupp comes off IR on schedule and that he has progressed physically.
This isnā€™t too encouraging reading through the lines. I would think that they have trainers working on him daily and updating the staff on his progress or lack thereof. To not know that he should be good in a week but instead hope heā€™s good in a week just doesnā€™t seem positive to me.
 
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"Rams receiver history under coach Sean McVay suggests Kupp and Puka Nacua can coexist just fine in the lineup together. In McVayā€™s previous six seasons, the Rams have placed top four in WR fantasy points four times, and have never finished in the bottom half of the league"


Rams wide receivers 1 and 2 in McVay's offense over the past 5 years:

 
He participated in full today and "looked good," according to Matthew Stafford.

I'm cautiously optimistic about him playing this week.
 
Rams head coach Sean McVay stated WR Cooper Kupp (hamstring) is ā€œgoing through a normal practiceā€ Wednesday.
McVay explained Kupp is listed as limited on the teamā€™s injury report, adding ā€œit says limited, heā€™s not going to be limited.ā€ Kupp will go through a normal practice despite his limited designation on Wednesday. He was placed on injured reserve with a hamstring injury prior to the Week 1 and just had his 21-day practice window opened by the Rams. McVayā€™s comments indicate Kupp is pretty much at a full-go in practice, boding well for his Week 5 status. Kupp will likely be eased into games, but Puka Nacuaā€™s fantasy value takes a hit with Kuppā€™s return.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.
Well, that doesn't sound good
And he is listening to an ESPN reporters take, ok. Whatever it turns out to be fine, I wouldn't listen to that clown show network

The visit to the specialist and the subsequent cone of silence doesn't sound good either.

It was a nerve specialist because there was concern the calf issue was sciatica related. If he wasn't ready to go, they could just keep him on IR for longer. I'm not worried.
I know there was speculation that it might be nerve related but did the team ever say that5 or just speculation?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.
Well, that doesn't sound good
And he is listening to an ESPN reporters take, ok. Whatever it turns out to be fine, I wouldn't listen to that clown show network
Well that reporter claims to have info from someone in the team and dr Morse's reputation is on the line .by using it so he must trust her info. It will be interesting for sure to see what happens. As a Kupp AND Nakua owner Im excited to see whether I can play both of them when Kupp comes back, hopefully soon.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.

He seems overly caught up in the "not yet 80-90%" part. As if there's a digital readout on his dash or something. Why isn't he honing in on the quote from the same lady that she's heard from those around the team that the results from the specialist indicate injury was LESS SEVERE THAN EXPECTED?


I feel like I could make the same YT video using the same footage but hammer that part of the quote (which seems more objective) rather than the not yet 80% narrative and people would be sighing in relief.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.

He seems overly caught up in the "not yet 80-90%" part. As if there's a digital readout on his dash or something. Why isn't he honing in on the quote from the same lady that she's heard from those around the team that the results from the specialist indicate injury was LESS SEVERE THAN EXPECTED?


I feel like I could make the same YT video using the same footage but hammer that part of the quote (which seems more objective) rather than the not yet 80% narrative and people would be sighing in relief.

I dont question his knowledge but the dude is doing it for clicks.
 
I guess the real question is: If removed from IR and listed as "expected to play", does anyone have the nads to throw him out there in their lineup this week?
If he plays there's 0 percent chance he'll be on people's benches. They wouldn't activate him if they didn't think he's healthy.
 
If he plays there's 0 percent chance he'll be on people's benches. They wouldn't activate him if they didn't think he's healthy.
Well, not 0%. I own him, but might roll with Aiyuk and Nico over him if reports are indicating a snap count for his first game back.

I know that Kupp is in a different league than Christian Watson, but his first game back was pretty light usage....although salvaged somewhat by the double-clutch score.
 
Two Words : Rocco Baldelli

LOT of smoke from a couple directions that Kupp may have complicating condition that would effectively crater his Dynasty value and add not insignificant risk in redraft.

Not sure what that looks like... Nacua a hard(er) buy in dynasty
 
Two Words : Rocco Baldelli

LOT of smoke from a couple directions that Kupp may have complicating condition that would effectively crater his Dynasty value and add not insignificant risk in redraft.

Not sure what that looks like... Nacua a hard(er) buy in dynasty
Had a friend call me and ask me about this last week and I told him that not a single credible source is reporting any such thing.

Can you cite a credible source that proves what I told my friend is wrong?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.

He looks pretty good here. Curious what this guy would say after watching vs. listening to some dumbass in the media:

Yeah, that same guy had a hot take about Saquon definitely having a HAS, just looking at tape of the injury. (I did too šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø but Iā€™m not an MD and dinā€™t sleep at a Holiday Inn Express)

so, Iā€™d take anything he says with a giant salt lick.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.

He looks pretty good here. Curious what this guy would say after watching vs. listening to some dumbass in the media:

Nacua looks like he's moving in slow motion compared to Kupp.
Looked like they were doing different drills on the same cones, like Kupp was one foot down on each side and Nacua was each foot down twice on each side.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.

He looks pretty good here. Curious what this guy would say after watching vs. listening to some dumbass in the media:

Yeah, that same guy had a hot take about Saquon definitely having a HAS, just looking at tape of the injury. (I did too šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø but Iā€™m not an MD and dinā€™t sleep at a Holiday Inn Express)

so, Iā€™d take anything he says with a giant salt lick.

Well he was right, so there's that.

"Giants RB says he's dealing with high ankle sprain" Link

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.

He looks pretty good here. Curious what this guy would say after watching vs. listening to some dumbass in the media:

Yeah, that same guy had a hot take about Saquon definitely having a HAS, just looking at tape of the injury. (I did too šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø but Iā€™m not an MD and dinā€™t sleep at a Holiday Inn Express)

so, Iā€™d take anything he says with a giant salt lick.

Well he was right, so there's that.

"Giants RB says he's dealing with high ankle sprain" Link

Yeah, on it being a HAS, but not on the doom and gloom ā€˜several weeks missedā€™ prediction. Hopefully.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.

He looks pretty good here. Curious what this guy would say after watching vs. listening to some dumbass in the media:

Yeah, that same guy had a hot take about Saquon definitely having a HAS, just looking at tape of the injury. (I did too šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø but Iā€™m not an MD and dinā€™t sleep at a Holiday Inn Express)

so, Iā€™d take anything he says with a giant salt lick.
Well that is all well in good but he had the stones at the time to call the team out for lying about the severity of the injury. Props to you if you did the same. Not sure at all how that is a negative on him.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.

He looks pretty good here. Curious what this guy would say after watching vs. listening to some dumbass in the media:

Yeah, that same guy had a hot take about Saquon definitely having a HAS, just looking at tape of the injury. (I did too šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø but Iā€™m not an MD and dinā€™t sleep at a Holiday Inn Express)

so, Iā€™d take anything he says with a giant salt lick.
Well that is all well in good but he had the stones at the time to call the team out for lying about the severity of the injury. Props to you if you did the same. Not sure at all how that is a negative on him.
I guess in my mind, heā€™s an orthopedic surgeon, trading on his expert opinion for views on youtube. Iā€™m some random jamook on a message board.

Iā€™m not saying thereā€™s anything wrong with him having a channel, but if he doesnā€™t have inside info, his opinion isnā€™t worth any more than mine. Thatā€™s why I said Iā€™ll take his opinion with a huge grain of salt.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.

He looks pretty good here. Curious what this guy would say after watching vs. listening to some dumbass in the media:

Yeah, that same guy had a hot take about Saquon definitely having a HAS, just looking at tape of the injury. (I did too šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø but Iā€™m not an MD and dinā€™t sleep at a Holiday Inn Express)

so, Iā€™d take anything he says with a giant salt lick.

Well he was right, so there's that.

"Giants RB says he's dealing with high ankle sprain" Link

Yeah, on it being a HAS, but not on the doom and gloom ā€˜several weeks missedā€™ prediction. Hopefully.
Well he has missed 2 already and potentially at least 1 more. That is quick for a HAS but since a regular ankle sprain is sometimes no missed time and seldom more than 1 that is a pretty important. Especially when the team wasnt telling the truth about the injury. How is anybody supposed to tell the severity of it when the team isnt even telliing the truth about the injury itself?
 
In the time Ive been watching him he certainly been wrong. He is no Dr. Chou imo but lets not pretend he is some hack that doesnt know sports medicine and injuries either.
 

"He's going to go through practice today," Rams coach Sean McVay said on Wednesday about Kupp's status. "We're going to see exactly what that looks like, but it says limited, he's not going to be limited. I was like Ron Burgundy, just reading off the injury report. So he's going through a normal practice. We'll see how he's feeling, and we'll progress him as the week goes."

-It's McVay, who could believe a word he says?
 
Two Words : Rocco Baldelli

LOT of smoke from a couple directions that Kupp may have complicating condition that would effectively crater his Dynasty value and add not insignificant risk in redraft.

Not sure what that looks like... Nacua a hard(er) buy in dynasty
Had a friend call me and ask me about this last week and I told him that not a single credible source is reporting any such thing.

Can you cite a credible source that proves what I told my friend is wrong?

One of the top names in the fantasy analytics world posted about it in a private discord.

When pressed he said details MAY come out Friday, but he heard it independently from two different sources who would know, and who he trusted.

He stressed it wasn't a sure thing but felt two good sources saying the same thing d from different directions was enough to warrant consideration.
 
Two Words : Rocco Baldelli

LOT of smoke from a couple directions that Kupp may have complicating condition that would effectively crater his Dynasty value and add not insignificant risk in redraft.

Not sure what that looks like... Nacua a hard(er) buy in dynasty
Had a friend call me and ask me about this last week and I told him that not a single credible source is reporting any such thing.

Can you cite a credible source that proves what I told my friend is wrong?

One of the top names in the fantasy analytics world posted about it in a private discord.

When pressed he said details MAY come out Friday, but he heard it independently from two different sources who would know, and who he trusted.

He stressed it wasn't a sure thing but felt two good sources saying the same thing d from different directions was enough to warrant consideration.
Thanks and you are not giving me any reason to not feel very confident in the info I relayed to my friend.
 

"He's going to go through practice today," Rams coach Sean McVay said on Wednesday about Kupp's status. "We're going to see exactly what that looks like, but it says limited, he's not going to be limited. I was like Ron Burgundy, just reading off the injury report. So he's going through a normal practice. We'll see how he's feeling, and we'll progress him as the week goes."

-It's McVay, who could believe a word he says?
That was for yesterday's practice and, from all indications, he actually did go through a full practice.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3cvO8fNdc update from dr Morse fantasy doc..... not good in his opinion.

He looks pretty good here. Curious what this guy would say after watching vs. listening to some dumbass in the media:

Yeah, that same guy had a hot take about Saquon definitely having a HAS, just looking at tape of the injury. (I did too šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø but Iā€™m not an MD and dinā€™t sleep at a Holiday Inn Express)

so, Iā€™d take anything he says with a giant salt lick.

Well he was right, so there's that.

"Giants RB says he's dealing with high ankle sprain" Link

Yeah, on it being a HAS, but not on the doom and gloom ā€˜several weeks missedā€™ prediction. Hopefully.

He's missed two weeks already and is in legit danger right now of missing a third.
 

"He's going to go through practice today," Rams coach Sean McVay said on Wednesday about Kupp's status. "We're going to see exactly what that looks like, but it says limited, he's not going to be limited. I was like Ron Burgundy, just reading off the injury report. So he's going through a normal practice. We'll see how he's feeling, and we'll progress him as the week goes."

-It's McVay, who could believe a word he says?
That was for yesterday's practice and, from all indications, he actually did go through a full practice.
Ive always wondered what constitutes a full practice (and if the definition of a full practice changes from team to team. I mean I saw the Kupp short clip and it was impressive but you could tell he certainly wasnt any way close to full speed (also admitting I dont know what speed that drill is even supposed to be run at) So does it count as full if he does every drill and every other practice activity even if he is doing it slower than the full strength guys? Or does full mean what I would consider full....not necessarilly all out but as all out as the other players are going missing no parts of the practice. Ive always wondered about such things. Also what would equal a limited practice whit the same questions. Inquiring minds wanna know.
 

"He's going to go through practice today," Rams coach Sean McVay said on Wednesday about Kupp's status. "We're going to see exactly what that looks like, but it says limited, he's not going to be limited. I was like Ron Burgundy, just reading off the injury report. So he's going through a normal practice. We'll see how he's feeling, and we'll progress him as the week goes."

-It's McVay, who could believe a word he says?
That was for yesterday's practice and, from all indications, he actually did go through a full practice.
Ive always wondered what constitutes a full practice (and if the definition of a full practice changes from team to team. I mean I saw the Kupp short clip and it was impressive but you could tell he certainly wasnt any way close to full speed (also admitting I dont know what speed that drill is even supposed to be run at) So does it count as full if he does every drill and every other practice activity even if he is doing it slower than the full strength guys? Or does full mean what I would consider full....not necessarilly all out but as all out as the other players are going missing no parts of the practice. Ive always wondered about such things. Also what would equal a limited practice whit the same questions. Inquiring minds wanna know.
Full = taking 100% of the reps that you normally would.
 
Rams OC Sean McVay believes Cooper Kupp (hamstring) ā€œlooks healthy.ā€

Speaking Thursday, McVay said Kupp just didnā€™t look quite right before the team decided to place him on injured reserve for four additional weeks to heal his hamstring injury. ā€œYou could tell he almost could tell that something was still a little bit off,ā€ McVay said. ā€œAnd from my vantage point (now), it looks like he feels really good.ā€ McVay has all but guaranteed Kupp will be ready to make his season debut against the Eaglesā€™ struggling secondary. Although Puka Nacua has gone nuclear in Kuppā€™s absence, he can be immediately reinserted into fantasy lineups as a borderline WR1.
 
I'd be hesitant about a pitch count especially how well Puka has performed. He could light it up, re-aggravate it and be shut down for the year or somewhere in between. No one knows.
 
He's expected to play Sunday, barring any setbacks, according to Diana Russini of the Athletic.

Not exactly shocking, but nice confirmation.
 
Rams coach Sean McVay said Cooper Kupp (hamstring) will play in Week 5 against the Eagles.

Kupp missed the first four games of the season while on injured reserve because of his hamstring injury. In his absence, rookie wideout Puka Nacua has been shattering records for first-year receivers. Kuppā€™s return will ultimately knock Nacuaā€™s target share, but his talent and production are simply undeniable. In his first game back, Kupp may see his snaps limited, but both receivers will sit at the back of the WR1 ranks once Kupp is up to full speed.
 

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