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WR Cooper Kupp, LAR (2 Viewers)
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Faust
MVP
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Waiver Wire is my focus right now
Kupp isn't going to be there, not for a little while at least IMHO
Trying to secure Watson from GB if Kupp hits IR, just trying to be proactive is all
Apologies if it sounds cold
It feels cold this evening from a guy that has likely won at least 1 maybe 2 years due to this guy almost single handedly especially last year.
Hard to be bitter
Such an amazing WR
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Where is the LA Rams team thread? Can't find it on search and don't want to fire up a new one
Judge Smails
Footballguy
The way he was being helped off he’s out 4-6 weeks if not the year.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I get it
I saw high ankle or fractured fibula, yeah he should be on IR by Mon/Tue
People all have different leagues, most of mine you jump to the front when you have this kind of injury so I will once again encourage folks to look forward vs feeling bad because there's not much you can do. Rams were idiots exposing their franchise players on offense with a subpar idiot chucking the ball, pass was horrific and the DB went right after Kupp's ankle,
But 2022 is pretty much over for Kupp and the Rams
Insein
Footballguy
Same.
Insein
Footballguy
With the Rams being 3-6, he's basically done for the year. But maybe in redraft you can entice someone he'll be back for that playoff run.
smcindoe
Footballguy
"More tests coming for Cooper Kupp. But at first glance, sounds like he may miss some time but not catastrophic."
Judge Smails
Footballguy
A month. Mark my words. At the earliest
GreenNGold
Footballguy
It sounds like he avoided worst-case scenario but more tests to come
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Hopefully that means no fracture and no surgery required. But still likely to be multi-week injury. "Catastrophic" would at least mean season ending I would think, so excellent chance he is back before Week 18. Can't read any more into it than that.
A lot of chatter that its a high ankle sprain, which sucks, but isn't season ending. Assuming that is on the nose, its usually 3-5 weeks, depending on severity, though with a somewhat elevated chance of re-injury.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
A high ankle sprain could absolutely be season-ending. It could be anywhere from a couple weeks to a couple of months. There could be ligament damage or even a bone fracture. Until we know more, I would assume amulti week injury. This did not look like a minor one from what I saw.
I don't think you need to wait a month......they are essentially already there
Ilov80s
Footballguy
The SB Champs that don’t have a 1st round pick aren’t shutting down the season in week 11 imo. A month from now, if their standing hasn’t improved, basic math might force them to concede.
Insein
Footballguy
Short term, Van Jefferson. Had him then dropped him this week. Need to get him back.What are Kupp owners doing for a WR (aside from) ? Going after Robinson (he's already rostered in my league) , Van Jefferson ...Skowronek (noticed he had 7 targets) --OR looking elsewhere?
Rest of the way, going to offer up Kupp to the 1-9 owner as an enticing keeper and see what I can get off of him.
What the SB champs want to believe and how they are actually playing seem to be two different things. The Rams are not good this year. Another month won't change that reality.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I don't disagree. The Rams are and have been bad. The Rams can't determine if they are bad or not. They do get to determine when they want to make strategic decisions with only next season in mind. Maybe they are ready to throw in the towel and give up now, but I would be very surprised by that. I would think Kupp and McVay's current mindset is that Kupp needs to rehab hard to get back for their expected playoff run. Another a couple losses and their delusion of a playoff run will be mathematically dead.
Insein
Footballguy
Also just grabbed Johan Dotson before the game tonight to make sure I have a body for next week.Short term, Van Jefferson. Had him then dropped him this week. Need to get him back.What are Kupp owners doing for a WR (aside from
Rest of the way, going to offer up Kupp to the 1-9 owner as an enticing keeper and see what I can get off of him.
Nice move -- He's available for me but I cant drop anyone right now unfortunately --- glad I grabbed DPJ last weekAlso just grabbed Johan Dotson before the game tonight to make sure I have a body for next week.Short term, Van Jefferson. Had him then dropped him this week. Need to get him back.What are Kupp owners doing for a WR (aside from
Rest of the way, going to offer up Kupp to the 1-9 owner as an enticing keeper and see what I can get off of him.
Insein
Footballguy
Update from Rams beat writer.
"Following up here, Kupp’s initial X-rays were negative so more likely looking at a high ankle sprain instead of serious fracture or break (and subsequent multi-month recovery into offseason and spring workouts).
Kupp will miss time; what is still being determined is how much."
"Following up here, Kupp’s initial X-rays were negative so more likely looking at a high ankle sprain instead of serious fracture or break (and subsequent multi-month recovery into offseason and spring workouts).
Kupp will miss time; what is still being determined is how much."
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Schefter
Johnny Utah #9
Footballguy
So… there has to be a very slim chance he’s back this season no? 4-6 weeks at minimum and Rams will absolutely be out of the playoff race and no reason to bring him back by then.
In leagues with no IR, would still be a tough drop. Deal him for whatever you can get to a more optimistic owner?
In leagues with no IR, would still be a tough drop. Deal him for whatever you can get to a more optimistic owner?
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
It would be nice if the Rams would put Kupp on IR for 4 weeks but I have this bad feeling they are going to drag this out for a couple weeks and then still not play him the rest of the way.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Kupp owner in two leagues. I'm looking at C Watson, DPJ, and P Campbell who seems to be in the fray now with Ryan back.Nice move -- He's available for me but I cant drop anyone right now unfortunately --- glad I grabbed DPJ last weekAlso just grabbed Johan Dotson before the game tonight to make sure I have a body for next week.Short term, Van Jefferson. Had him then dropped him this week. Need to get him back.What are Kupp owners doing for a WR (aside from
Rest of the way, going to offer up Kupp to the 1-9 owner as an enticing keeper and see what I can get off of him.
FairWarning
Footballguy
Three nice options.Kupp owner in two leagues. I'm looking at C Watson, DPJ, and P Campbell who seems to be in the fray now with Ryan back.Nice move -- He's available for me but I cant drop anyone right now unfortunately --- glad I grabbed DPJ last weekAlso just grabbed Johan Dotson before the game tonight to make sure I have a body for next week.Short term, Van Jefferson. Had him then dropped him this week. Need to get him back.What are Kupp owners doing for a WR (aside from
Rest of the way, going to offer up Kupp to the 1-9 owner as an enticing keeper and see what I can get off of him.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yes, especially in the light of the fantasy season, which has 4 regular season games left (wow, time flies).
FairWarning
Footballguy
Seems like Allen Robinson can take this role.
He's rostered in my league unfortunately. Van Jefferson is available -- but I'm still mulling it over --
titusbramble
Footballguy
Have Kupp in two leagues. Think I can manage in the league I'm 7-3 in (stashing Nuk worked out well), other one I'm 5-5 with three other WRs on bye this week, so probably need to trade. What's a fair return to a contender who can afford to stash?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Not sure he's totally right just right. Stafford's 2022 deep ball and this OL def ain't right.
31, 18 and 17 snaps.
18 and 15 routes run (WK 11 not released yet)
0, 5 and 3 targets
A year ago he was consistently seeing 40-45 routes run per game (depending on game script), over 500 routes for the season. 13 splash plays over 20, 5 over 40. Very consistent - never went more than two games without a 20+ reception. Haven't seen it from him or this offense in 2022.
FairWarning
Footballguy
It’s a tough call. I picked up Jefferson 2 weeks ago and got a 0. It’s amazing how this offense totally broke down.
Thank you -- is that for Jefferson or Robinson?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Love the enthusiasm and would feel similar
Also should be noted that the Rams made BIG MOVES and won a Suer Bowl with the Lions' former starting QB
I'm not sure the Lions got one over on the Rams
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Van Jefferson since he came off IR
Allen Robinson's lost season has seen him as the consistent #2 WR in terms of snaps - every week through the TB game - but last week Skowronek did outsnap him for the first time (55-59) but they're used totally different. AR leads the team in boundary snaps by a good margin, Jefferson has been working the majority of the time from the slot, ditto for Skowronek who will also line up at TE (he's 224 and their best blocking WR.) Believe it or not, Robinson has more RZ targets than Kupp (13-11) and also has seen more targets inside the 10 (10-7) and inside the 5 (6-4.) His production has sucked but you could make a case for him having positive regression for TDs, def should have a couple more than the 2 he has scored this year based on his history and league averages.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
They didn't, but a top 10 pick is better than #32.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Or how about forfeiting your 1st Rd pick like my beloved Miami Dolphins?
I wasn't kidding when I said Super Bowl or bust when they announced the team/owner punishments
I'd love to hand Roger #32
FairWarning
Footballguy
I’m not sure Jefferson can beat #1 coverages.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Do they shut down staff for Tommy John at this point?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I'm not sure Van could beat a decent college slot corner rn. Might not see the guy he has been until Y2 of the recovery.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
5 in my IDP redraft league, but yeah. I can’t believe it’s week 11.
I was posting on these boards when that trade was made that the Lions took a worse deal to appease Stafford. In other words not a good deal for them and I was hammering them for it. Pretty reliable sources say Carolina thought they had reached agreement on a trade that would have netted the Lions Carolina's pick 8 in 2021 plus some additional later round picks. As we know the first of those picks ended up being 32 and while we'll never know what the Lions would have done at pick 8 they could have chose Horn, Surtain, Parsons or Fields. Of traded back like the Giants did and move back a few spots and get a 2023#1. That trade has only looked worse and worse to me since they made it until the Rams crumbled. Still going to be hard to beat what they could have had but now they got a shot. Hope it works out for them as well as it did for Stafford.
Sorry to others looking for a Kupp update but then the only thing to really update is if McVay indicates they are leaving the door open for him to return later or are they going to just shut him down and even if they leave the door open he may not make it back. I'd still can't bring myself to cut him unless McVay say's his season is done.
