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RB Latavius Murray, BUF (4 Viewers)
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ShaHBucks
Footballguy
I respect Reese. He's a good runner with a ton of skills in the passing game and a proven NFL commodity. He performed better than DMC last year. That's another reason why keeping McFadden around for big money seems crazy to me. Reece is nice but he's not as physically talented as DMC or Murray. If DMC goes down he likely has the same amount of value but Im still taking Murray.
I'm a huge Latavius Murray fan and had the chance to see him play live a bunch the last couple years.
Although he has all the physical gifts in the world, Murray is one of the most frustrating players to root for. Some replys to various comments:
The ACL tear 2 years ago is never a good thing, but even more concerning is him hurting himself game 1 last year in college and now having an "undisclosed" foot injury. He just seems like the kind of guy that if he can make it through a few games he will be ok, but he comes right out the shoot going 1000 mph and it's ready yet. It's like a pitcher dialing it up for a complete game, game 1.
The fact that he runs "so upright" is nit-picking at best.
The fact that he played for UCF and not Alabama shouldn't mean anything. Chris Johnson (E. Carolina) played in the same conference (and was a hometown UCF commit until he couldn't get grades), Forte (Tulane) and Bradshaw (Marshall) played in the same conference. Morris played in a worse conference and Mathews playing at Fresno State isn't any better. Plus guys like Rice and McCoy played in the Big East, which wasn't exactly the SEC either. My take on it is that these mid major rb's with talent have to deal with mid level o-lines and qb's as well. Try being a stud rb when your wildcat qb was your qb as a freshman and the wr split out right was your qb your sophomore and junior years. You have to love the 3qb's on the field wrinkle.
The negative on Murray will always be if he does get a chance (which isn't 100% in stone), you will watch every week wondering when he may get hurt or just saying "get down" instead of taking on a head on hit. Never a fun way to spend your Sunday. Talent alone, there is no reason to think the guy can't be a legitimate NFL running back by 2015, but in 2013, unless you have Run DMC and no viable other option as a replacement, he becomes an H back full time with RUN DMC on the field as well or you have a keeper league based off of draft position, I'm not sure he is going to do ya any good.
Although he has all the physical gifts in the world, Murray is one of the most frustrating players to root for. Some replys to various comments:
The ACL tear 2 years ago is never a good thing, but even more concerning is him hurting himself game 1 last year in college and now having an "undisclosed" foot injury. He just seems like the kind of guy that if he can make it through a few games he will be ok, but he comes right out the shoot going 1000 mph and it's ready yet. It's like a pitcher dialing it up for a complete game, game 1.
The fact that he runs "so upright" is nit-picking at best.
The fact that he played for UCF and not Alabama shouldn't mean anything. Chris Johnson (E. Carolina) played in the same conference (and was a hometown UCF commit until he couldn't get grades), Forte (Tulane) and Bradshaw (Marshall) played in the same conference. Morris played in a worse conference and Mathews playing at Fresno State isn't any better. Plus guys like Rice and McCoy played in the Big East, which wasn't exactly the SEC either. My take on it is that these mid major rb's with talent have to deal with mid level o-lines and qb's as well. Try being a stud rb when your wildcat qb was your qb as a freshman and the wr split out right was your qb your sophomore and junior years. You have to love the 3qb's on the field wrinkle.
The negative on Murray will always be if he does get a chance (which isn't 100% in stone), you will watch every week wondering when he may get hurt or just saying "get down" instead of taking on a head on hit. Never a fun way to spend your Sunday. Talent alone, there is no reason to think the guy can't be a legitimate NFL running back by 2015, but in 2013, unless you have Run DMC and no viable other option as a replacement, he becomes an H back full time with RUN DMC on the field as well or you have a keeper league based off of draft position, I'm not sure he is going to do ya any good.
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Faust
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NFL Films' Greg Cosell speaks highly of Raiders' 2013 draft classWritten by Asher Mathews on
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Good lookin' athlete. 
Biabreakable
Footballguy
He is hurt enough right now that you might be able to stash him on your IR depending on your rules for re-activating. If you need this guy this season you are in trouble. But who knows maybe he can carve out a role after he gets healthy later on this season.
eNdblu
Footballguy
Looks like we'll have to wait until next season to see what Murray might be able to do
NFL: AroundTheLeague @NFL_ATL
Raiders placed LB Miles Burris on PUP list. Placed CB Joselio Hanson and RB Latavius Murray on injured reserve. Had high hopes for Murray
NFL: AroundTheLeague @NFL_ATL
Raiders placed LB Miles Burris on PUP list. Placed CB Joselio Hanson and RB Latavius Murray on injured reserve. Had high hopes for Murray
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Too bad. I had high hopes for him from the minicamp reports.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Too late for PUP. Not going to help the Raiders make the playoffs. Redshirt IR move. Happens a lot to guys that teams don't want to risk losing through waivers to put on the practice squad.
massraider
Footballguy
Jennings. it was never Reece.
Murray is not bad for dynasty stash. DMC in final year of deal.
Murray is not bad for dynasty stash. DMC in final year of deal.
I was wondering the same thing. After looking at their site, it looks like maybe tomorrow. They change the status on Wednesdays and Fridays in season and they likely would do the same preseason.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
He had long odds to begin with. He was blasted by the coaches and placed on IR. The talent is there. You just have to wonder where his head is now. There's hope, but he's a lotto ticket at this point. I think his price and opportunity is still good, but not as good as when I tried to bring some attention to him in the shark pool.
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With so many other needs to attend to, drafting an RB is probably not a priority.....but then again who knows what the irrational Raiders can do.
I doubt they re-sign DMC - too much money, too high medical bills. Rashad is obviously not the answer, though the yardage a guy like him gets with ease is encouraging for their overall run game. I like Murray's chances this off-season. Opportunity is there, measurables are rock solid, college performance was quite good as well.
From what I read, his main problem was attitude? I wonder how does an year on IR affect that.
I doubt they re-sign DMC - too much money, too high medical bills. Rashad is obviously not the answer, though the yardage a guy like him gets with ease is encouraging for their overall run game. I like Murray's chances this off-season. Opportunity is there, measurables are rock solid, college performance was quite good as well.
From what I read, his main problem was attitude? I wonder how does an year on IR affect that.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
I don't trust the Raiders for Murray to hit that fast. And I don't like him being injury prone. The best back on the team is Reese and he doesn't even touch the ball. There is still a chance that 2014 is a favorable situation for Murray. They will probable draft a RB who could stink, keeping the situation decent.
Teef
Footballguy
Their best RB is Jennings and he's been nothing a stud when healthy and starting. I will give you that Reese is probably their best WR though.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
McFadden gets hurt midseason.
Murray takes over.
Murray takes over.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
eNdblu
Footballguy
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Running back Andre Brown in on ex-Giants visit to #Raiders today; also starred in win over Oakland last year
As a Murray owner, I hope that they don't sign Andre Brown... Even though DMC/Brown both have a checkered injury history, just muddies the water even more and less opportunity for touches.
Running back Andre Brown in on ex-Giants visit to #Raiders today; also starred in win over Oakland last year
As a Murray owner, I hope that they don't sign Andre Brown... Even though DMC/Brown both have a checkered injury history, just muddies the water even more and less opportunity for touches.
BUMP for Latavius Murray.
(Rotoworld)RB Latavius Murray is expected to compete for the backup job this offseason.
Analysis: The Raiders surprised everyone by re-signing Darren McFadden to be their lead back and letting Rashad Jennings go. Of course, that could very well end up as a blessing for Murray. McFadden has missed 29 games over the last six seasons and averaged just 3.29 YPC since Hue Jackson left following the 2011 campaign. The talented Murray won't have a problem beating out Jeremy Stewart and Kory Sheets.
With DMC's health and aging, Murray most definitely has the opportunity now to become Oakland's RB of the Future.
Word on the street is Murray has a very good all around skill-set, not to mention ran a 4.38 and 4.40. HE'S 6'2" 230
Im on board! GET HIM NOW before his value skyrockets and he becomes the starter in Oakland via injury/beating out DMC. Look what Jennings did. Murray has Jennings on Size AND Speed. just my
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(Rotoworld)RB Latavius Murray is expected to compete for the backup job this offseason.
Analysis: The Raiders surprised everyone by re-signing Darren McFadden to be their lead back and letting Rashad Jennings go. Of course, that could very well end up as a blessing for Murray. McFadden has missed 29 games over the last six seasons and averaged just 3.29 YPC since Hue Jackson left following the 2011 campaign. The talented Murray won't have a problem beating out Jeremy Stewart and Kory Sheets.
With DMC's health and aging, Murray most definitely has the opportunity now to become Oakland's RB of the Future.
Word on the street is Murray has a very good all around skill-set, not to mention ran a 4.38 and 4.40. HE'S 6'2" 230
Im on board! GET HIM NOW before his value skyrockets and he becomes the starter in Oakland via injury/beating out DMC. Look what Jennings did. Murray has Jennings on Size AND Speed. just my
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Latavius Murray will never be a good starting NFL RB. That's not to say he won't get on the field due to others' injuries.
Opportunity > Talent, sometimes. Look at what Jennings did. He was nothing more than a Backup RB when behind Maurice Jones-Drew thats for sure.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
You notice any of these guys at LB where he won the Liberty Bowl MVP as a sophomore?http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2010-12-31-central-florida.html
* http://youtu.be/K8o3sFWVAB4
He scored the only TD of the game. The week before that he was the MVP of the Conference USA title game. The fact that he's bigger than some NFL LBs and a better athlete means nothing I guess.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
What? He's almost 6'3", and 230 at best. And he's built like a WR, and runs like one. My position is pretty clear throughout this thread.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
Yea, everything you've said has been subjective and baseless.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I said he's 6'3, 230 lbs, and built like a bean pole. And that he runs upright.
You said he's 'bigger than some NFL LBers'.
Who's being subjective?
You said he's 'bigger than some NFL LBers'.
Who's being subjective?
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Whatever. No need to have the same conversation over and over again.
You're a numbers guy. I get that. And be checks all the boxes in that category.
I don't think he looks like an NFL RB, in his build or in his running style, and there are very few physical and/or stylistic outliers in the NFL for a reason. Very, very few.
We'll see how it plays out.
You're a numbers guy. I get that. And be checks all the boxes in that category.
I don't think he looks like an NFL RB, in his build or in his running style, and there are very few physical and/or stylistic outliers in the NFL for a reason. Very, very few.
We'll see how it plays out.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
You're kidding right? He's awkawrd. Not a natural runner of the ball. He's going to get destroyed vs NFL LBs. He looks like a WR trying to play RB.
Milkman
Footballguy
He obviously doesn't have prototypical size for a RB in the NFL. Which is a pretty big issue for me personally. I usually let someone else draft/hold players like that. That being said, I picked him up off the WW last week of the season last year. I think he has some real talent and he's put up some good/great numbers when he played against tough teams. I wouldn't spend much to acquire him but he's a hold right now if you have him. McFadden could be injured but the third week of preseason.
Unless he's come back with a built up lower body, ShahBucks has this nailed.
He reminds me of Patterson a little bit.
