Those are two very good scenarios. I have KC reserved for my guy Darrell Henderson though lol.KC is a dream landing
PHI would be awesome
Those are two very good scenarios. I have KC reserved for my guy Darrell Henderson though lol.KC is a dream landing
PHI would be awesome
everything I read says he is not a lead back. but that does make it slightly less likely they take a rb high, but I still think it's very possible.Those are two very good scenarios. I have KC reserved for my guy Darrell Henderson though lol.
When Ingram and Richardson were there they were trotting our very average QBs and were winning with their defense and running game.Iceman03 said:That’s not really true though. He’s had multiple workhorse backs. Even when Ingram and Richardson were splitting they were both highly productive and way moreso than Jacobs.
I'd say Saban doesn't give a crap about our devy rankings, Jacob's NFL draft stock, or anything external that doesn't lead to National Championships. He had three studs and rotated them - he's been doing it for years and is never going to change that unless his roster ends up with a talent deficiency that mandates it. He also saddled his wagon to a passing QB to a much greater extent than he ever has before. (ot: I bet after he sees how poorly Tua played he reverts back to better balance so as to minimize that single point of vulnerability).Iceman03 said:There are reasons someone is, and remains, third string on their team. Kamara you can look back and point to Tennessee’s staff. Everyone calling him RB1, you going to say Saban was incompetent coaching?
An example sure but Chris Henry rose because of a great combine, Jacobs rose because of what he did on the field and that's where it gets a little different.Limited production, went nuts at combine, drafted in 2,nd round by Titans in 2007. Flopped big time in NFL. Chris Henry.
Not comparing the 2 but giving an example of limited production that turned out bad. He fooled a lot of people.
lol I actually thought he meant William'sWilliams.
Agreed. I do believe he's more Chris Carson than Henry.An example sure but Chris Henry rose because of a great combine, Jacobs rose because of what he did on the field and that's where it gets a little different.
I'll give you a recent and current example going the other way of limited touch RB in college. Chris Carson. 213 career carries and even in the crazy scoring Big 12 he barely broke 1,000 yards in his career, ran for more yards this year then his entire college career.
A lot of people compare him to CarsonAgreed. I do believe he's more Chris Carson than Henry.
That does it, he's off my list. His hometown doesn't have a history of sending players to CFB.Context discovered
Still doesn’t change my opinion on his limited production with a lesser back (I think we’re all in agreeance on that with Harris). I’m not sure where I’d have him in comparison to Singletary, Darwin Thompson, Devine Ozigbo, Trayveon Williams or Mike Weber but I think I’d for sure have Rodney Anderson, Darrell Henderson and Elijah Holyfield ahead of him right now. It’s still very early for me.
He's got more sasquatch than yeti in him IMOAgreed. I do believe he's more Chris Carson than Henry.
You didn’t read the whole twitter thread did you?That does it, he's off my list. His hometown doesn't have a history of sending players to CFB.
As much as everyone is talking about Jacobs, if Harris gets drafted by KC, we'll all be talking about him being the 1.1. Not sure why you like Philly as a landing spot. If you like watching Smallwood get carries over him, then fine. RBBC no matter who they have it seems.Dr. Dan said:KC is a dream landing
PHI would be awesome
As much as everyone is talking about Jacobs, if Harris gets drafted by KC, we'll all be talking about him being the 1.1. Not sure why you like Philly as a landing spot. If you like watching Smallwood get carries over him, then fine. RBBC no matter who they have it seems.Dr. Dan said:KC is a dream landing
PHI would be awesome
As much as everyone is talking about Jacobs, if Harris gets drafted by KC, we'll all be talking about him being the 1.1. Not sure why you like Philly as a landing spot. If you like watching Smallwood get carries over him, then fine. RBBC no matter who they have it seems.
Ugh please don’t let this happen.Dane Brugler mock 2.0-posted 1/9
27. Oakland Raiders (from Dallas): Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama
Last year, I gave linebacker Leighton Vander Esch the “ascending player” title, and this year, that moniker belongs to Jacobs, who is just scratching the surface of what he can do. He has a strongly built frame with athletic plant-and-go skills to run through or around defenders. Jacobs is also a terrific receiver and blocker and could help reshape what Gruden has in mind for the Raiders offense.
In his first mock draft for the spring, NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah pegged the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to select Alabama RB Joshua Jacobs with the No. 5 pick.
While most mock drafts to this point have played it relatively safe, Jeremiah lets loose with his Mock 1.0. Jacobs at No. 5 is just the start of the fun. He also tabs Iowa TE T.J. Hockenson to the Lions with the No. 8 pick. And while we're on Iowa, Hockenson's partner-in-crime Noah Fant likewise goes off the board in DJ's Round 1, though not until much later, as he slots him in with the Packers at the very end of the first round. The cherry on top of the sundae comes at pick No. 29, where Jeremiah marries Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray with the New England Patriots. Jacobs is the name which really sticks out, here. The Alabama back has gained plenty of momentum as a draft prospect over the last month or so, but this is the first time we've seen him tossed out there as a potential top-10 pick (if only in mock form).
Source: NFL.com
Jan 18 - 1:44 PM
I got zero sense he was not trying to get it right based on what he knows today.That's awful. I realize mocks are for "fun," but if you aren't even attempting to get the picks correct what's the point?
Thats hilarious!!I agree that he should declare; however, I can almost guarantee that Saban (autocorrect changed Saban to Satan...lol) is whispering in his ear this week that he should return for his senior season.
I wouldn't bet on it. But he's likely to be the 1.01 in rookie drafts if he goes to a plus situation.Biabreakable said:So Josh Jacobs is going to be the first skill player drafted, ahead of any QB in the 2019 NFL draft?
I was the same as you. when reading about this years rb class I was surprised to see Jacons mentioned as 1st rb taken. after reading more on him I'm more excited. if he goes to a good scenario he could be money.Biabreakable said:So Josh Jacobs is going to be the first skill player drafted, ahead of any QB in the 2019 NFL draft?
I am not a fan of Alabama football like many of you are, but I've never heard of him. Am I just slacking?
So I watched his highlight reel which was all I could find on the guy besides many copies of him breaking a tackle for a TD,.
There are some impressive plays demonstrated in these clips that show he has good speed, power, change of direction ability, good hands, runs WR routes.
Then I looked for cut ups of games. Didn't see any of those. Which is a bit odd for a player who is going to be a top 10 selection supposedly?
Then I looked up his stats, and I see there aren't that many more plays to see from Jacobs college career that are not covered in the highlights. He barely got the ball.
He ended his college career very strong after barely doing anything prior to the last of this college season. He had a couple good games as a freshman in 2016.
I dunno it seems like a pretty big leap of faith to rank him that high with so little information/evidence.
He does look good on those highlights though.
Which is?I got zero sense he was not trying to get it right based on what he knows today.
It all hinges on his combine measures as well as his interviews (by all account, Saban raved about his characters and his work ethics). 2019 rookie draft isn't deep as seen in past two years.Biabreakable said:So Josh Jacobs is going to be the first skill player drafted, ahead of any QB in the 2019 NFL draft?
I posted this earlier but might have been in the 1.1 thread. He recently relayed a conversation he had a with a scout. Scout asked him where he rated Jacobs and he said late 1/round two. Scout replied by asking him what does he not like about him to rank him so low and what does he not like about his game?Which is?
He's very much a projection. But like you said, the traits themselves seem to be there. Obviously there is cause for concern by just seeing highlights and "traits" rather than production with game cut ups.Biabreakable said:So Josh Jacobs is going to be the first skill player drafted, ahead of any QB in the 2019 NFL draft?
I am not a fan of Alabama football like many of you are, but I've never heard of him. Am I just slacking?
So I watched his highlight reel which was all I could find on the guy besides many copies of him breaking a tackle for a TD,.
There are some impressive plays demonstrated in these clips that show he has good speed, power, change of direction ability, good hands, runs WR routes.
Then I looked for cut ups of games. Didn't see any of those. Which is a bit odd for a player who is going to be a top 10 selection supposedly?
Then I looked up his stats, and I see there aren't that many more plays to see from Jacobs college career that are not covered in the highlights. He barely got the ball.
He ended his college career very strong after barely doing anything prior to the last of this college season. He had a couple good games as a freshman in 2016.
I dunno it seems like a pretty big leap of faith to rank him that high with so little information/evidence.
He does look good on those highlights though.
It's obvious click bait material. There's not really any scenario other than what you mentioned, a trade into the teens, where Tampa would be selecting Jacobs with the 5th pick considering their situation as an organization. If Jeremiah thinks Tampa wants him that badly then he should project a trade with Washington and be realistic.Sure he knows that it's more likely Tampa would trade out of 5 to a QB needy team and get Jacobs in the teens but on mock 1.0 in January he's not really doing trades.
Also likely he knew Jacobs at 5 would get attention, maybe that pushed him a little, but I think he takes his craft seriously and is not just some click bait mock draft guy.
We'll agree to disagreeIt's obvious click bait material. There's not really any scenario other than what you mentioned, a trade into the teens, where Tampa would be selecting Jacobs with the 5th pick considering their situation as an organization. If Jeremiah thinks Tampa wants him that badly then he should project a trade with Washington and be realistic.
NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah lists Alabama RB Joshua Jacobs sixth on his updated draft board.
Not only is Jacobs the top rated running back on Jeremiah's board, he's the highest rated offensive player. He recently mocked the running back fifth overall to the Buccaneers with the fifth pick, so, long story short, he's clearly a fan. "Jacobs has the speed to get to the perimeter -- he's a weapon when lined up as a QB in the Wildcat and when he's used on fly sweeps from the slot," he writes. "In the passing game, Jacobs runs crisp routes, possesses natural hands and he's a make-you-miss specialist in space." Even if other analysts aren't as high on Jacobs, it's becoming clear that the 5-foot-10, 216-pound running back has a real chance to be the first position player selected in this class.
Source: NFL.com
Jan 22 - 7:29 PM
menobrown said:Man when did DJ become such a corporate sellout click bait artist? I mean when a guy does a no trade mock and puts his 6th ranked player going to a team with a need at his position at number 5 that just makes NO sense at all. What a load of crap.
Apparently we won't. What's your deal? Unfortunately, I know the Bucs really well, and they have the worst offensive line in the league and gave up the 2nd most points on defense. They aren't spending the 5th pick overall on a running back who didn't dominate his league unless he somehow has a Barkley level combine.menobrown said:We'll agree to disagree
....especially when they used an early second at RB last year (even though so far he looks like a bust).Apparently we won't. What's your deal? Unfortunately, I know the Bucs really well, and they have the worst offensive line in the league and gave up the 2nd most points on defense. They aren't spending the 5th pick overall on a running back who didn't dominate his league unless he somehow has a Barkley level combine.
This too. I'm hopeful our new coaching staff can figure out how to get Jones in the game over guys like Jacquizz "he knows the system" Rodgers.....especially when they used an early second at RB last year (even though so far he looks like a bust).
We have plenty of time to wonder.
I came in here to say how I'm starting to worry he could be a TJ Yeldon type and I see this.
I completely understand where guys are low on him. the 1.1 thread has a lot of information on how Jacobs just doesnt fit the bill for NFL success based on his college production. a lot of solid points with statistics. Yet I always feel like NFL scouts should know more than I do. they have this same info, and more, and he is apparently being graded out higher than Fournette. That seems bonkers but maybe I should stop worrying.
This is what people close to the team know that we would not know.Josh Jacobs*, RB, Alabama
Height: 5-10. Weight: 216.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2019): 1-2.
1/21/19: I know some scouts who rave about Jacobs and think he could have the best skill set of any of the running backs from Alabama's roster. That is really saying something, and a lot of that is from watching the Crimson Tide in practice. They feel that Jacobs is the best running back prospect in the 2019 NFL Draft and worthy of going late in the first round.
Jacobs is a very physically gifted running back as he has good size and is fast. He has athleticism, agility, running instincts, balance, power, and quick feet. Due to being part of a heavy rotation with Damien Harris and Najee Harris, Jacobs only carried the ball 120 times in 2018, but turned that into 640 yards (5.3 average) with 11 touchdowns. He also had 20 receptions for 247 yards and three scores. After being a rotational back for three years, Jacobs will be entering the NFL with very little wear-and-tear.
Read more: http://walterfootball.com/draft2019RB.php#ixzz5df0XelPz
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Raiders would figure as odds on favorite if you had to pick a team due to multiple late firsts and need. Also this is a very minor point but it was Mayock I credit as first person touting Kamara as a first round talent, which just means when he gives Gruden his opinion he's not likely to be turned off by fact Jacobs was not asked to be "the man", not that I think anyone is going to be down on Jacobs for lack of usage, quite the opposite.I actually think he has a strong chance of ending up in Oakland. which is very frustrating and I wouldn't know where to put him.
Joshua Jacobs - RB - Crimson Tide
In his latest running backs rankings, The Athletic's Dane Brugler tags Alabama RB Joshua Jacobs as RB1.
Brugler has had no cause to shift Jacobs off the top spot since releasing his last rankings set in December. The analyst believes that the 5-foot-10, 216-pounder is "just scratching the surface of his multi-dimensional skill set" and "displays the explosive and versatile traits to be a three-down feature weapon in the NFL with Pro Bowl upside." For reference's sake, Devin Singletary, Damien Harris, David Montgomery and Trayveon Williams round out Brugler's top-five backs.
Source: The Athletic
Jan 30 - 12:19 PM
Bleacher Report's Matt Miller reports that one NFL team has a higher grade on Alabama RB Joshua Jacobs than they did on Leonard Fournette.
Ah, yes. A compliment and a warning all in one comparison. Fournette was highly ranked coming out of college, so it's certainly high praise that Jacobs has a higher grade than him, but it's also a reminder of the fragility of drafting a running back in the first round, as Fournette has been largely replaceable for the Jaguars. However, something that Jacobs has that Fournette didn't have at the time of his draft is health. Jacobs was used sparingly at Alabama, so he enters the NFL with as much juice as possible at the position. It appears to be likely that some team uses a Day 1 pick on Jacobs.
Source: Bleacher Report
Feb 4 - 7:48 PM