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I know, but I guess it depends on how you define bellcow. My expectation at the start of the season was that Damien would get about 15 touches/game and, due to the nature of the KC offense, had a shot at being a top 10 fantasy back with that volume.
Both really. I’ve ranted enough about it in this thread though. Guess it’s always surprising to me when a guy like Williams hits >20 mph. It feels like we’re missing a lot. Hunt was the same way. I think he had the most 20+ mph runs his rookie year and he had an average 40 time.
That’s fair I guess
I think most people saw Damien leading the KC backs in touches, he had a mid 2nd round ADP going into the final weekend before the season. I don't think anyone would take him in the first round simply because of the uncertainty surrounding his talent as a 6th year RB who had only been featured for a handful of games and durability.
Don’t mistake anything I’ve posted to mean I don’t like Darrel
I enjoyed that back and forth, it's interesting. Agree that the meaning of bellcow may have shifted a little depending on context. But to me it shouldn't. A bellcow is a 3 down back. A back who is in and involved on both passing and running game -- Fournette, Barkley, etc. Though I can see it being applied to a 2 down back guy like Henry who is simply the only back they use for any run play.
Hey now! Don't pee on the parade here!
McCoy has been second amongst KC's RBs in snap% in all three games (29% 41% 38%). Best I can tell, they'd like to keep him in the 30-40% range.
By that definition, KC won't have a bellcow. Nor will about 25 other teams. DAL JAX NYJ ARI CLE CAR are about the only ones.
Yes. Imo these teams have ‘bellcow’ backs
Not really.
Couldn't agree more. I picked up Darrel in both my leagues. Holding on for as long as possible to see what turns up, I believe he's going to get his chance here soon enough.
No worries, I never thought that. I drafted Damien (Sat Aug 31st a couple hours before McCoy was released) at 3.9 in my 12 team, super-flex, PPR league and Darwin at 11.9. Someone took a flyer on McCoy in the last round (he hadn't signed with KC yet).
Sorry "mid-to-late", he had an ADP of 21 on MFL, RTS and FFCalculator in both July and August.
That's a good solid signal. Not as good as Shady dinged, but looks like Darell's in line for some touches if DWill can't practice.Shady was a full participant in practice today, while Damien was out.
for Darrel...as someone else said the touches (12-15) should be there for him to keep Shady fresh.
I agree with @davearm, McCoy is on a pitch count. Reid wants McCoy around for the moments of doubt, don't kid yourselves there will be moments of doubt, when he needs the guy he doesn't have to worry about. McCoy is that guy.Loipz said:
Don't think it would be crazy to flex Darrel over Jacobs in that situation. If I was favoured and needed safe, high floor RB production, I'd start them both. KC Backfield probably a lock to get 20+ points in standard. Would hate to pick the wrong one.
I need to make up for -1 tonight and a serious disadvantage anyway. That exact thought crossed my mind, though, so we're on the same page. I need for one of the backs to shoot the moon and leave the other holding the bag. And I need the right one to do it.
I think Darrel is the guy but that's just my opinion. Even if you start both though and one of them gets you 5 points, you know the other one put up big points for you.
Heh, I knew you were going Darrel for some reason, hence my insistence to the contrary. And you're likely right because Shady is more likely to reinjure his ankle and have to leave.
I think Shady will be eased in. And if KC has a big lead, that's when Darrel will get more touches than Mccoy, and also when the team is going to be running the ball more anyways (maybe not though with Mahomes back there). I guess McCoy could have a bigger game for sure if it's a tight game, but I think Mahomes will be bombing it in a game like that.
Obviously KC has the ability to to create a big lead but Vegas only has this as a six point game.
This is what I think as well. Historically, bellcows have been 20+ touches a game. 20 has always been the threshold. Making adjustments for today's game in the era of passing, I would only slightly lower that to 18+ touches.
Shady @ Det and Carson @ Ari are both juicy matchups. Hard to second guess starting either, unless new pregame info becomes available. KC - DET should be higher scoring.
