Excellent way to get younger in a hurry. Team getting Brady/Peterson is presumably building up for one big run.12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium. 3 year contracts no salary
Gave: Brady, Adrian Peterson
Got: Lamar Miller, Bridgewater, 1.03
Looks close to me.Big one in a 12t ppr (TE premium)
Team A trades 3 2017 1sts (2 likely top 4 and one top 7-8)
Team B trades M Evans and Eifert
That is huge. I'd rather have the players, only way I'd be tempted to move Evans and Eifert for a nice haul of picks was if my team was stacked at WR, thin at RB and had a viable replacement for Eifert.Big one in a 12t ppr (TE premium)
Team A trades 3 2017 1sts (2 likely top 4 and one top 7-8)
Team B trades M Evans and Eifert
ill take the players, but if those end up being in the range theyre predicted to be in, it could be very nice.Big one in a 12t ppr (TE premium)
Team A trades 3 2017 1sts (2 likely top 4 and one top 7-8)
Team B trades M Evans and Eifert
I might have preferred to go for a top IDP players in that situation, but they might have been largely off the board depending on how your draft went (or still available at 4.09, depending).Minor trade.
Zealots Field (PPR)
OTC, traded 3.02 rookie pick for Jimmy Garoppolo and the 4.09 rookie pick. (The pick ended up being Pharoh Cooper.)
We have very large rosters (53, in season) and I didn't have a guy I felt I had to have with the 3.02. Having Brady, I like having Garoppolo as a handcuff.
This one totally depends on rosters and league requirements to assess. If Team B is strong at WR/TE, and if the picks end up where projected, Team B should win this. Then again, you could also consider the opportunity cost, i.e., what else could Team B have gotten for Evans and Eifert? Maybe he could have gotten a premium RB, for example.Big one in a 12t ppr (TE premium)
Team A trades 3 2017 1sts (2 likely top 4 and one top 7-8)
Team B trades M Evans and Eifert
A good point.I might have preferred to go for a top IDP players in that situation, but they might have been largely off the board depending on how your draft went (or still available at 4.09, depending).
This could be the case for most owners in most seasons, but the top 4-5 RB prospects, and the top 2 WR prospects are pretty nice. Even with all the over hype for the class next year, there will likely be a fair amount of pretty good Rbs at the top of the first and a couple of those guys look good enough that even an owner who is generally bullish on investing in Rbs, may be tempted if they are of the opinion that one of those guys is someone you can build around for a 3-5 year window and gamble with the volatility of the positionOne of the weird things about those 2017 picks is that the strength of the class is RB. It's an average to below-average group of WRs in my opinion. And I've noticed that a lot of the teams trading top assets for 2017 picks are the same ones who generally hate to build their teams around RBs.
Agreed, that's why I had said earlier one of the conditions I'd need if I was giving up the players for the picks is to be deep at WR and have a major RB need.One of the weird things about those 2017 picks is that the strength of the class is RB. It's an average to below-average group of WRs in my opinion. And I've noticed that a lot of the teams trading top assets for 2017 picks are the same ones who generally hate to build their teams around RBs.
Rosters in this league are 21 plus 4 taxi. Start qb rb rb wr wr wr te flex (rb, wr, te) it is a ppr with te premiumAgreed, that's why I had said earlier one of the conditions I'd need if I was giving up the players for the picks is to be deep at WR and have a major RB need.
And again, I lost Mathieu (from S to corner) and Woodson so needed a new S.16 team idp
I gave Brock Osweiler for Karlos Williams
That's a great deal for eifert. My offer of Ebron for eifert was rejected, no counter yet.Eifert
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Ladarius Green
Probably won't get one. I offered Reed for Eifert and 1.9 (to a guy who only has Eifert at TE) and was told it was terrible and why would he ever consider doing such a thing for an even more injury prone TE than Eifert. Well from my angle Reed out scored Eifert by 3.5 ppg, wasn't TD dependent and isn't in jeopardy of missing the first month of the season.And again, I lost Mathieu (from S to corner) and Woodson so needed a new S.
2016 Draft Pick 3rd round / #45Year 2017 Round 4 Draft Pick
ForChurch, Barry DAL SYear 2017 Round 3 Draft Pick (probably about #45)
That's a great deal for eifert. My offer of Ebron for eifert was rejected, no counter yet.
Then why did you propose the trade?Probably won't get one. I offered Reed for Eifert and 1.9 (to a guy who only has Eifert at TE) and was told it was terrible and why would he ever consider doing such a thing for an even more injury prone TE than Eifert. Well from my angle Reed out scored Eifert by 3.5 ppg, wasn't TD dependent and isn't in jeopardy of missing the first month of the season.
opinions on Ebron vary widely but I take Eifert by a bit here myself but I'm not big on Diggs eitherJust went down in FFPC
Eifert, 2017 4th, 2017 6th
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Ebron, Diggs, 2017 5th
Just went down in FFPC
Eifert, 2017 4th, 2017 6th
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Ebron, Diggs, 2017 5th
I acquired Eifert in this one. My trade partner had poor depth behind Eifert while I already had Fleener. Allen, Maxx, and Hooper. I could afford to take the upside gamble. He needed a bit more safety. Think it fit both of our needs well.I own all 3 of these players in FFPC leagues, Eifert and Ebron in a few leagues. Eifert is the best player in this deal, I like the potential of Ebron and Diggs enough to think this is close to even but what you know with Eifert is once he's healthy,which could even be the opener, he's a weekly lineup fixture. The other two may or may not be that kind of guy and one lesson I've learned over the years is don't trade semi-young weekly lineup fixtures for maybe's. So I don't think this is one sided but give me Eifert.
I like Lockett best out of those pieces, so give me that side. Trades like this where most of the pieces have high variance in value usually make sense for both sides.12 tm non ppr idp
CNFC traded C.J. Mosley, Bal to BCTCNFC traded Jerick McKinnon, Min to BCT
BCT traded Matt Jones, Wsh to CNFCBCT traded Tyler Lockett, Sea to CNFCBCT traded Calais Campbell, Ari to CNFC
Because Gronk is my TE1 already, I do like Eifert and I could use the pick to get a nice young WR prospect...Then why did you propose the trade?
while eifert is better than Ebron, I don't think the difference is as big as diggs vs the 4th. But then o like Ebron and diggs more than many do.Just went down in FFPC
Eifert, 2017 4th, 2017 6th
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Ebron, Diggs, 2017 5th
That makes sense and I without you explaining it I thought it was a reasonable offer. I'd have passed on the offer myself because I like Reed more than Eifert but not enough to give the pick, but it seemed reasonable.Because Gronk is my TE1 already, I do like Eifert and I could use the pick to get a nice young WR prospect...
The other factor for me was roster size - I have a lot of guys that I'll have tough decisions on when cutdowns take place, so being able to spin a 2 for 1 to pick up the better player was appealing for me.while eifert is better than Ebron, I don't think the difference is as big as diggs vs the 4th. But then o like Ebron and diggs more than many do.
Who are your top 5 TE's?Eifert being treated like a top TE. He's had one decent year. New receiving additions in Cinci will not help, He's also always broke down. I don't expect him to be much better than L.Green or Ebron this year. Reed is another ticking time bomb I want nothing to do with.
Eifert being treated like a top TE. He's had one decent year. New receiving additions in Cinci will not help, He's also always broke down. I don't expect him to be much better than L.Green or Ebron this year. Reed is another ticking time bomb I want nothing to do with.
Do you really believe LaFell and Boyd are better receiving options than Jones and Sanu? I certainly don't. Eifert becomes the clear second option in a decent passing game and it's not close for me.Eifert being treated like a top TE. He's had one decent year. New receiving additions in Cinci will not help, He's also always broke down. I don't expect him to be much better than L.Green or Ebron this year. Reed is another ticking time bomb I want nothing to do with.
Give me the proven player in each of them. Baldwin, David Johnson, Stafford (only one that's questionable), and AR15.A few of my recent deals in a start 1 QB/2RB/2WR/1TE, 2 flex
Team A gave Doug Baldwin
Team B gave 2.02
Team B gave DGB/DeAndre Smelter/Devin Smith/1.02
Team C gave David Johnson, 1.06
Team B gave 3.11/4.02
Team D gave Matt Stafford
Team A gave Allen Robinson
Team B gave 1.06, 2017 1st from Team A (probably top 3-4)
For 2016, I like it for you.Gave: Hurns 1.09, 2.09, 3.09, 2017 1st 2017 3rd
Got: 1.01
AgreedGive me the proven player in each of them. Baldwin, David Johnson, Stafford (only one that's questionable), and AR15.
I like it now and for the future that 17 pick better be sweet.For 2016, I like it for you.
In 2017 and onward, I like it for the Hurns side.
Cheap for Robinson.A few of my recent deals in a start 1 QB/2RB/2WR/1TE, 2 flex
Team A gave Doug Baldwin
Team B gave 2.02
Team B gave DGB/DeAndre Smelter/Devin Smith/1.02
Team C gave David Johnson, 1.06
Team B gave 3.11/4.02
Team D gave Matt Stafford
Team A gave Allen Robinson
Team B gave 1.06, 2017 1st from Team A (probably top 3-4)
David Johnson is far from proven, but yes I like his side of that.Give me the proven player in each of them. Baldwin, David Johnson, Stafford (only one that's questionable), and AR15.
Compared to DGB, Smelter, and Devin Smith, David Johnson looks like a seasoned vet.David Johnson is far from proven, but yes I like his side of that.
What a strange post. Eifert has only been in the league for three seasons and one of them he missed basically the entire season so one "decent" year is an interesting way to put it. Also I'm not sure how replacing Jones and Sanu with LaFell and Boyd really changes the dynamic in the Cinncy passing game.Eifert being treated like a top TE. He's had one decent year. New receiving additions in Cinci will not help, He's also always broke down. I don't expect him to be much better than L.Green or Ebron this year. Reed is another ticking time bomb I want nothing to do with.