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Gave Randall Cobb and Darren Waller
Got Abdullah, Keenan Allen, 2016 1st (late)
Got Abdullah, Keenan Allen, 2016 1st (late)
Pwingles said:With no context regarding your league and roster, i take the kelvin side.Poncho said:12 team ppr
Traded sammy Watkins
For
Benjamin and ameer
Needed the rb only having gordon,alfmo and vereen in a start 2 or 3 rb league
With context i take it twice
IMO it is close, but I'll take that side too.Wow, it's the Gordon, Parker, Duke side, and it's not even close.maxhyde said:Sammy sideshady inc said:PPR start 3-5 WR and 2-4 RB:
Team A - Kevin White, Allen Robinson, Sammy Watkins
Team B - Melvin Gordon, Devante Parker, Ladarius Green, Tevin Coleman, Duke Johnson
Prefer what you gaveGave Randall Cobb and Darren Waller
Got Abdullah, Keenan Allen, 2016 1st (late)
Cobb for meGave Randall Cobb and Darren Waller
Got Abdullah, Keenan Allen, 2016 1st (late)
Cobb is by far the best player in this deal for me. I like that side.Gave Randall Cobb and Darren Waller
Got Abdullah, Keenan Allen, 2016 1st (late)
Pretty even for me. It is basically three 1st rounders for Cobb which is about what he is worth.Cobb is by far the best player in this deal for me. I like that side.Gave Randall Cobb and Darren Waller
Got Abdullah, Keenan Allen, 2016 1st (late)
I'll give it a stabI'm on the other side and feel exactly the Sam way. Not that close.Wow, it's the Gordon, Parker, Duke side, and it's not even close.maxhyde said:Sammy sideshady inc said:PPR start 3-5 WR and 2-4 RB:
Team A - Kevin White, Allen Robinson, Sammy Watkins
Team B - Melvin Gordon, Devante Parker, Ladarius Green, Tevin Coleman, Duke Johnson
Gordon=White
Watkins>=Parker/Green/Coleman
ARob>>>Duke
Any thoughts on Forte for the #4 pick? 10 team large roster league, non PPR.Defending champ traded the #4 rookie pick for Matt Forte straight up. They're looking to repeat.
Davis is worth a decent bit more than McFadden, imo. I like him better as a handcuff, as McFadden isn't even necessarily #2 on Dallas, and I like him better as a long term bet to take the starting job. Since you own Randle, I get wanting to grab McFadden, but Davis is like the best handcuff in the league, and McFadden is old and broken and just not very good.Pretty vanilla trade here. I gave up Knile Davis to the Charles owner in exchange for Darren McFadden straight up since I own Joseph Randle. I probably could have got a draft pick out of it but we're including devy's and his only picks were starting at the late 3rd. Still, I probably should have snagged a pick.
In non-PPR, given age and changes in Chicago, I think I'd prefer Melvin Gordon straight up over Forte. There's definitely risk in Gordon, but I think he's got a good shot of putting up like 80% of what Forte will in non-PPR, and if he has a good rookie year, he'll be up there in the rankings and worth 2-3 first rounders in dynasty. If I'm dealing 1.04 for an aging RB, I think I'd need Jamaal Charles in non-PPR. But for winning this year, I get it.Any thoughts on Forte for the #4 pick? 10 team large roster league, non PPR.Defending champ traded the #4 rookie pick for Matt Forte straight up. They're looking to repeat.
Yeah I think Davis > DMCPretty vanilla trade here. I gave up Knile Davis to the Charles owner in exchange for Darren McFadden straight up since I own Joseph Randle. I probably could have got a draft pick out of it but we're including devy's and his only picks were starting at the late 3rd. Still, I probably should have snagged a pick.
Alot to assume Gordon makes it to 4 in any league let alone a nonPPR leagueIn non-PPR, given age and changes in Chicago, I think I'd prefer Melvin Gordon straight up over Forte. There's definitely risk in Gordon, but I think he's got a good shot of putting up like 80% of what Forte will in non-PPR, and if he has a good rookie year, he'll be up there in the rankings and worth 2-3 first rounders in dynasty. If I'm dealing 1.04 for an aging RB, I think I'd need Jamaal Charles in non-PPR. But for winning this year, I get it.Any thoughts on Forte for the #4 pick? 10 team large roster league, non PPR.Defending champ traded the #4 rookie pick for Matt Forte straight up. They're looking to repeat.
This is what makes the world go 'round...I'm on the other side and feel exactly the Sam way. Not that close.Wow, it's the Gordon, Parker, Duke side, and it's not even close.maxhyde said:Sammy sideshady inc said:PPR start 3-5 WR and 2-4 RB:
Team A - Kevin White, Allen Robinson, Sammy Watkins
Team B - Melvin Gordon, Devante Parker, Ladarius Green, Tevin Coleman, Duke Johnson
Gordon=White
Watkins>=Parker/Green/Coleman
ARob>>>Duke
Doubt Gordon makes it to 4. I think this move was for Forte's teammate Kevin White.....In non-PPR, given age and changes in Chicago, I think I'd prefer Melvin Gordon straight up over Forte. There's definitely risk in Gordon, but I think he's got a good shot of putting up like 80% of what Forte will in non-PPR, and if he has a good rookie year, he'll be up there in the rankings and worth 2-3 first rounders in dynasty. If I'm dealing 1.04 for an aging RB, I think I'd need Jamaal Charles in non-PPR. But for winning this year, I get it.Any thoughts on Forte for the #4 pick? 10 team large roster league, non PPR.Defending champ traded the #4 rookie pick for Matt Forte straight up. They're looking to repeat.
Hard to imagine any owner giving up ARob for less than 1.06. In fact I wouldn't be apalled/shocked if some said ARob=Parker.This is what makes the world go 'round...
Gordon=White - Agreed. Thats a wash.
Watkins >= Parker/Green/Coleman - Disagree strongly. I think people are all of a sudden sleeping on Parker (Like they did with Odell last year) because of his foot. From what I read, that should not be a recurring injury. I personally think Watkins and Parker will have similar careers. Slight edge to Watkins. Then you give me a young, high upside TE in Green, as well as a high upside RB in addition to Parker, and that tips the scales firmly in the other direction. At least in my opinion, the 3 guys are >>>Watkins, if not more.
ARob>>>Duke - I have to admit that I havent watched a lot of Allen Robinson, so its tough for me to comment on this one. I wouldnt have valued him >>> above Duke based on my limited knowledge (of both players), but even if we concede it...
Its a pretty even deal based on the >'s allotted above - but in reality for me personally I value ARob and Duke as about the same (granted, my lack of knowledge on both), so I easily go the other way on this one. Duke goes early second round, right? Is ARob worth more than an early 2 in this draft?
+1I'll give it a stabI'm on the other side and feel exactly the Sam way. Not that close.Wow, it's the Gordon, Parker, Duke side, and it's not even close.maxhyde said:Sammy sideshady inc said:PPR start 3-5 WR and 2-4 RB:
Team A - Kevin White, Allen Robinson, Sammy Watkins
Team B - Melvin Gordon, Devante Parker, Ladarius Green, Tevin Coleman, Duke Johnson
Gordon=White
Watkins>=Parker/Green/Coleman
ARob>>>Duke
Gordon > White
Watkins = Parker, Duke, Green
Coleman > ARob
ARobs start-up ADP is late 3/early 4 which slots him right around rookie pick 1.5. Duke is early 2.This is what makes the world go 'round...Gordon=White - Agreed. Thats a wash.I'm on the other side and feel exactly the Sam way. Not that close.Gordon=WhiteWow, it's the Gordon, Parker, Duke side, and it's not even close.maxhyde said:Sammy sideshady inc said:PPR start 3-5 WR and 2-4 RB:
Team A - Kevin White, Allen Robinson, Sammy Watkins
Team B - Melvin Gordon, Devante Parker, Ladarius Green, Tevin Coleman, Duke Johnson
Watkins>=Parker/Green/Coleman
ARob>>>Duke
Watkins >= Parker/Green/Coleman - Disagree strongly. I think people are all of a sudden sleeping on Parker (Like they did with Odell last year) because of his foot. From what I read, that should not be a recurring injury. I personally think Watkins and Parker will have similar careers. Slight edge to Watkins. Then you give me a young, high upside TE in Green, as well as a high upside RB in addition to Parker, and that tips the scales firmly in the other direction. At least in my opinion, the 3 guys are >>>Watkins, if not more.
ARob>>>Duke - I have to admit that I havent watched a lot of Allen Robinson, so its tough for me to comment on this one. I wouldnt have valued him >>> above Duke based on my limited knowledge (of both players), but even if we concede it...
Its a pretty even deal based on the >'s allotted above - but in reality for me personally I value ARob and Duke as about the same (granted, my lack of knowledge on both), so I easily go the other way on this one. Duke goes early second round, right? Is ARob worth more than an early 2 in this draft?
Good point. I've had Gurley/Cooper/White ingrained in my brain as top 3 too much Though I'd personally be happy with any of those 3 or Gordon over Forte; take a hit in production this year for sure, but get a big boost in long term value.Alot to assume Gordon makes it to 4 in any league let alone a nonPPR leagueIn non-PPR, given age and changes in Chicago, I think I'd prefer Melvin Gordon straight up over Forte. There's definitely risk in Gordon, but I think he's got a good shot of putting up like 80% of what Forte will in non-PPR, and if he has a good rookie year, he'll be up there in the rankings and worth 2-3 first rounders in dynasty. If I'm dealing 1.04 for an aging RB, I think I'd need Jamaal Charles in non-PPR. But for winning this year, I get it.Any thoughts on Forte for the #4 pick? 10 team large roster league, non PPR.Defending champ traded the #4 rookie pick for Matt Forte straight up. They're looking to repeat.
I think that is a pretty high price but definitely could pay off as a short term solution for a win now team
Not a bad idea every now and then to win in the current year rather than 2 years later.Good point. I've had Gurley/Cooper/White ingrained in my brain as top 3 too much Though I'd personally be happy with any of those 3 or Gordon over Forte; take a hit in production this year for sure, but get a big boost in long term value.Alot to assume Gordon makes it to 4 in any league let alone a nonPPR leagueIn non-PPR, given age and changes in Chicago, I think I'd prefer Melvin Gordon straight up over Forte. There's definitely risk in Gordon, but I think he's got a good shot of putting up like 80% of what Forte will in non-PPR, and if he has a good rookie year, he'll be up there in the rankings and worth 2-3 first rounders in dynasty. If I'm dealing 1.04 for an aging RB, I think I'd need Jamaal Charles in non-PPR. But for winning this year, I get it.Any thoughts on Forte for the #4 pick? 10 team large roster league, non PPR.Defending champ traded the #4 rookie pick for Matt Forte straight up. They're looking to repeat.
I think that is a pretty high price but definitely could pay off as a short term solution for a win now team
I traded ARob for 1.11 rookie and Bradford in a 12 team PPR league. I needed a back up to Big Ben and all TDs are 6 points. The 1.11 became DGB.Hard to imagine any owner giving up ARob for less than 1.06. In fact I wouldn't be apalled/shocked if some said ARob=Parker.No one is sleeping on Parker because of his foot either. He is a fine prospect but like all prospects has some things he needs to learn/improve to be an NFL player. ARob has at the very least demonstrated he can contribute somewhat effectively as an NFL WR1 for what that is worth in JAXThis is what makes the world go 'round...
Gordon=White - Agreed. Thats a wash.
Watkins >= Parker/Green/Coleman - Disagree strongly. I think people are all of a sudden sleeping on Parker (Like they did with Odell last year) because of his foot. From what I read, that should not be a recurring injury. I personally think Watkins and Parker will have similar careers. Slight edge to Watkins. Then you give me a young, high upside TE in Green, as well as a high upside RB in addition to Parker, and that tips the scales firmly in the other direction. At least in my opinion, the 3 guys are >>>Watkins, if not more.
ARob>>>Duke - I have to admit that I havent watched a lot of Allen Robinson, so its tough for me to comment on this one. I wouldnt have valued him >>> above Duke based on my limited knowledge (of both players), but even if we concede it...
Its a pretty even deal based on the >'s allotted above - but in reality for me personally I value ARob and Duke as about the same (granted, my lack of knowledge on both), so I easily go the other way on this one. Duke goes early second round, right? Is ARob worth more than an early 2 in this draft?
Martin more likely to win on (marginal) VBD. Ball is the low expected value high-volatility play that could pay off big this year. I'm a Ball hater so would take Martin, but can see the other side.Buffaloes said:Doug Martin for Montee Ball
Amaro and Robinson. Not sure what Hunter's role is going to be with Tennessee adding some decent receivers this draft.Team A gave: Justin Hunter
Team B gave: Jace Amaro & Josh Robinson
I think Wright even in non pprA rare player for player of the same position trade in my 10 teamer, non PPR....
A trades Torrey Smith
B trades Kendal Wright
Even as a Sims owner, I take Martin. But Ball surely could make that opinion look silly.Martin more likely to win on (marginal) VBD. Ball is the low expected value high-volatility play that could pay off big this year. I'm a Ball hater so would take Martin, but can see the other side.Buffaloes said:Doug Martin for Montee Ball
seems fair, but give me Wright. Non-ppr helps Smith here but I think he'll be too inconsistent in SF.A rare player for player of the same position trade in my 10 teamer, non PPR....
A trades Torrey Smith
B trades Kendal Wright
Amaro, easily.Amaro and Robinson. Not sure what Hunter's role is going to be with Tennessee adding some decent receivers this draft.Team A gave: Justin Hunter
Team B gave: Jace Amaro & Josh Robinson
The fact that you were even able to trade away Ben Tate is amazing to me. And then to get Cruz in the deal, highway robbery.12 team tiered PPR
Gave:
Kendall Wright
Ben Tate
Got:
Victor Cruz
Brian Quick
Cruz is toast. It's basically wright for quick. I'd take wrightThe fact that you were even able to trade away Ben Tate is amazing to me. And then to get Cruz in the deal, highway robbery.12 team tiered PPR
Gave:
Kendall Wright
Ben Tate
Got:
Victor Cruz
Brian Quick
10 teamer, start 1 QB.
Brees and the #22 rookie pick
for
Josh Gordon, J Stew and Spiller.
Team getting Brees already had Rodgers. Team trading Brees still has Romo (that's what you get in a 10 teamer)
Assuming relatively large rosters, think the Gordon/Stewart/Spiller side is getting a relative windfall. No sure things there, but give me the chances at upside.Don't really like Spiller but I'll take that side
I'll take the Kevin White side, especially if rebuilding.Wasn't involved.
10 team PPR
Calvin Johnson
Michael Floyd
Harvin
2015 3rd (29th)
Rec:
1.5 (Kevin White). Traded up as Agahlor 4th
2016 1st
2017 1st
Gio Bernard (owns Hill)
still take the White side easily. Harvin has had one decent season, otherwise been a flop. Floyd is ok but nothing special. wouldn't give a 1st for both of them together.They aren't rebuilding: WRs are DT,Hopkins, Cooks, Evans, Adams, White
Interesting deal. I have a hard time figuring out Henry because he's such a unique RB. But at this price, I think it's worth the risk.12 team devy league, PPR
Gave:
Tevin Coleman
Devonta Freeman
Got:
Derrick Henry
I'm all-in on Henry being a great RB prospect. Better than Coleman even with Coleman's good situation and decent pedigree.
That's what I'm thinking. Coleman could get a huge value jump just by being named starter and having some nice preseason touches, but it doesn't mean he'll be an RB1. Either way, I believe in Henry's talent much more and think Coleman is getting a perceived value upgrade due to a situation that seems to be good, but might not be. Shanahan created a hellish RBBC last year even when Crowell looked great.Interesting deal. I have a hard time figuring out Henry because he's such a unique RB. But at this price, I think it's worth the risk.12 team devy league, PPR
Gave:
Tevin Coleman
Devonta Freeman
Got:
Derrick Henry
I'm all-in on Henry being a great RB prospect. Better than Coleman even with Coleman's good situation and decent pedigree.
I get the allure of having both Falcons RBs, but I think the fear has to be that it ends up a RBBC like Cleveland did last year where you can't really rely on either guy as a strong starter in any given week.
I am giving hunter another year. Not sure amaro and Robinson cut it for me anywayTeam A gave: Justin Hunter
Team B gave: Jace Amaro & Josh Robinson
10 team ppr I will take calvin. I would probably have traded Calvin for that 1.05/2016 1st and Floyd and Bernard are a wash or favor Floyd slightly.Harvin/3rd for a 2017 1st is something I could eat for floyd/calvinWasn't involved.
10 team PPR
Calvin Johnson
Michael Floyd
Harvin
2015 3rd (29th)
Rec:
1.5 (Kevin White). Traded up as Agahlor 4th
2016 1st
2017 1st
Gio Bernard (owns Hill)
wright I guess. Tough in nonppr because neither have qbs I trustA rare player for player of the same position trade in my 10 teamer, non PPR....
A trades Torrey Smith
B trades Kendal Wright
Wright here12 team tiered PPR
Gave:
Kendall Wright
Ben Tate
Got:
Victor Cruz
Brian Quick
Martin for me but I like ball at a lower price. I think den job isn't locked upMartin more likely to win on (marginal) VBD. Ball is the low expected value high-volatility play that could pay off big this year. I'm a Ball hater so would take Martin, but can see the other side.Buffaloes said:Doug Martin for Montee Ball
Spiller side10 teamer, start 1 QB.
Brees and the #22 rookie pick
for
Josh Gordon, J Stew and Spiller.
Team getting Brees already had Rodgers. Team trading Brees still has Romo (that's what you get in a 10 teamer)
I would deal the ATL rbs for Henry.I think Coleman may be able to do well there but the oline isn't good so may not be this year12 team devy league, PPR
Gave:
Tevin Coleman
Devonta Freeman
Got:
Derrick Henry
I'm all-in on Henry being a great RB prospect. Better than Coleman even with Coleman's good situation and decent pedigree.
White/Gio and the picksGottabesweet said:Wasn't involved.
10 team PPR
Calvin Johnson
Michael Floyd
Harvin
2015 3rd (29th)
Rec:
1.5 (Kevin White). Traded up as Agahlor 4th
2016 1st
2017 1st
Gio Bernard (owns Hill)
I would take the shot on Henry alsoConnSKINS26 said:12 team devy league, PPR
Gave:
Tevin Coleman
Devonta Freeman
Got:
Derrick Henry
I'm all-in on Henry being a great RB prospect. Better than Coleman even with Coleman's good situation and decent pedigree.