King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I liked this guy last year more than I like any of this years receivers in the rookie crop. I would be shocked and disappointed if he failed so quickly.
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Borden
Footballguy
A "lock" to make the team? The fact that this has to be stated is concerning.
Drafted him last year in one rookie draft. Him and Smelter get thrown in to a lot of trade offers. I'd have no problem moving him but I'm not going to sell him off for nothing.
At some point VJax is going to step aside for someone else. Is it this year? Maybe. I'd like to hear that Bell has secured the 3rd WR and/or slot role by third preseason game.
Drafted him last year in one rookie draft. Him and Smelter get thrown in to a lot of trade offers. I'd have no problem moving him but I'm not going to sell him off for nothing.
At some point VJax is going to step aside for someone else. Is it this year? Maybe. I'd like to hear that Bell has secured the 3rd WR and/or slot role by third preseason game.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
A sportswriter posting random thoughts - probably after a few stiff drinks - in June concerns you? I'd love for someone of my leaguemates to share this mindset.
Borden
Footballguy
A 24 year old player that hasn't played a down, has injury issues, is not the current WR3, was 5th round pick and the "nice" article about him is that he is a lock to make the team. I'm not down on Bell either but it's important to understand that at this point he is still a flyer. At best he's the number 2 behind Evans. So, likely a nice depth player. Maybe a WR3?
I'd be pretty happy to have my league mates thinking like you. Sounds like I'd get a nice reception in the Dynasty Trades thread when I sold Bell to you. Since I already said I'd rejected bad offers, you must be making me pretty good ones. Or by "mindset" you meant something else, like my stunning good looks and wonderful smile
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Yeah, well whatever.A 24 year old player that hasn't played a down, has injury issues, is not the current WR3, was 5th round pick and the "nice" article about him is that he is a lock to make the team. I'm not down on Bell either but it's important to understand that at this point he is still a flyer. At best he's the number 2 behind Evans. So, likely a nice depth player. Maybe a WR3?
I'd be pretty happy to have my league mates thinking like you. Sounds like I'd get a nice reception in the Dynasty Trades thread when I sold Bell to you. Since I already said I'd rejected bad offers, you must be making me pretty good ones. Or by "mindset" you meant something else, like my stunning good looks and wonderful smile
You just keep on wetting your pants every time a sportswriter posts any stray thoughts in the offseason.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
The front office and coaching staff is high on Bell. They didn't draft or sign anyone. He will be their third WR this year, and could slide into the second outside spot once VJAX is gone.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Yeah, and I do have some concern that Murphy may be just good enough to stunt Bell's production in the offense unti V-Jax goes hurdling off the cliff(which is sooner than later imo) and TB is forced to invest a high pick for a legit threat across from Evans next year.... especially if ASJ may be slipping toward bust.
I am a fan of Bell's talent but the time is now if he wants to carve out a role in this offense. As a 5th round pick if he can't easily beat out Murphy and completely own the slot job at the start of the year he may just be a guy that fights for a roster spot every year.
Fireinside
Footballguy
Let's wait until the pads get on. Bell will be much better than Louis and will win the third WR spot, I have no doubt about it. The reviews have been positive and at the moment it's all just guessing and every opinion is just guessing, but IMO Bell will win the job and win the confidence of coach too and secure his spot with the Bucs. There's no need to wonder what Bucs will draft next year, it's so far away...
Fireinside
Footballguy
Grahamburn
Footballguy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Why is every report out of TB all over the place?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
So confusing. One day he is making big plays the next he is barely making the team.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
It's the same way with ASJ. One week he's the key to the offense. Then he's losing his job. Then he's thrown out of practice for not knowing the plays..... it's not even a new playbook. Maybe the entire state of FL is a nexus and we should drive our car into a pond and take a nap until the season starts and we can really find out what is going on. Or just take a nap until everyone vacates a museum.... and break OUT of the museum we are locked in. I have never been to Florida but it sounds like a pretty crazy swamp.
socrates
Footballguy
Pre-camp reports are often a mixed review of media speculation and coachspeak. Filter those reports with what we know about Bell: hard worker, no character concerns, productive college career, standout at last year's combine, solid camp reports before his hamstring injury last August, can contribute on special teams, attended team meetings and even traveled with the team last season, learning the playbook and nuances of the pro game and developing a rapport with teammates and coaching staff, and the Bucs did not add significant competition. Bell is somewhat undersized and has only a fifth round pedigree, and he will not be handed anything, but I believe in Bell's work ethic and talent, and the opportunity he has in front of him. I fully expect Bell to not only make the roster but to become a contributor for the Bucs this season. Vincent Jackson is 33, so Bell is a dynasty prospect to watch, but barring injuries to Jackson or Evans, he may have limited value in redrafts this season.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
The media has basically nothing to write about. The Bucs did not draft nor did they sign a WR in free agency. That's really all you need to know about how they regard their WR corps. Bell is a big time dynasty buy.
Quez
Footballguy
I have always been kind of meh on Kenny Bell. I always thought they should have drafted Rashad Greene. Anyways, it's sounding like he isn't making a huge splash or anything so far. Koetter named Alan Humphreys as the #3. This wasn't too surprising to me. He was pretty consistent last season, and versatile. WR depth is concerning. When Evans or V-Jax go out, it's going to be thin.
massraider
Footballguy
Dang. Coach Koetter droppin' bombs.
Quez
Footballguy
Just heard the audio of Koetter naming Humpries the #3. He said "its not even close" or something along those lines. Either Humpries is really good, which Jameis even called him a 3rd down machine, or the #4, 5, 6 WRs really suck. Humpries did well with V-Jax out, so you have to wonder what a guy like him could do with a healthy Evans/V-Jax. He might be open quite a bit, and Jameis already had a nice rapport with him.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
It's refreshing how honest he is. I hope he's able to continue it. In today's media market it will be a challenge.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
And he just said this on the radio:Grahamburn said:
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Keep in mind that is much more related to the slot WR position. I still expect Bell to be the primary backup on the outside.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
I think I've still got him in one of my dynasty leagues, but I've never been that high on Bell's NFL prospects. He'd be a special teams demon on returns if he wanted to focus there, but he just doesn't have the build and natural feel for the position to be a top flight WR or really anything other than a 4th/5th receiver on an NFL team.
Quez
Footballguy
I think he was working at returns, so that may be where he catches on. I'm not sure if it was his fast 40 time or what, but this guy has always seemed over hyped to me. How often does a 5th round WR pan out?
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
(RotoWire) Bell had a particularly productive day on offense in Tuesday's practice, including a touchdown in seven-on-seven drills, the team's official site reports.
Analysis: The second-year speedster is already working as the first-team kickoff returner, but the Bucs also have high hopes for him as a backup receiver on the outside. Bell certainly provided encouraging results in that vein Tuesday, recording a pair of catches on back-to-back plays in the two-minute drill while playing with the second-team offense, and following up with an impressive touchdowns in seven-on-sevens later in the session. The Nebraska product figures to be one of the most closely watched players during preseason, as he tries to make a notable impression following a rookie campaign spent on IR.
Analysis: The second-year speedster is already working as the first-team kickoff returner, but the Bucs also have high hopes for him as a backup receiver on the outside. Bell certainly provided encouraging results in that vein Tuesday, recording a pair of catches on back-to-back plays in the two-minute drill while playing with the second-team offense, and following up with an impressive touchdowns in seven-on-sevens later in the session. The Nebraska product figures to be one of the most closely watched players during preseason, as he tries to make a notable impression following a rookie campaign spent on IR.
squistion
Footballguy
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10538/kenny-bell
Bucs WR Kenny Bell was held without a catch on two targets in Thursday's preseason opener.
It was the night from hell for the bubble wideout, who fumbled the opening kickoff before showing stone hands on his two targets and getting called for offensive pass interference. The 2015 fifth-rounder is now in grave danger of not making the team after missing his entire rookie year with injury. Aug 11 - 11:16 PM
Bucs WR Kenny Bell was held without a catch on two targets in Thursday's preseason opener.
It was the night from hell for the bubble wideout, who fumbled the opening kickoff before showing stone hands on his two targets and getting called for offensive pass interference. The 2015 fifth-rounder is now in grave danger of not making the team after missing his entire rookie year with injury. Aug 11 - 11:16 PM
squistion
Footballguy
Oh, geez...
Thanks for the update, Faust. I will wait before cutting him, but it appears that I have held him in six dynasty leagues for over a year for naught.
You roll the dice, sometimes you win sometimes you lose.
I am beginning to think in the future to never hold on my roster a player that redshirt's their rookie season (See also Deandre Smelter).
squistion
Footballguy
Fine, and let's see how they do when they actually see the field in a regular season game.
And dude, are you really comparing the unheralded Kenny Bell to hyped prospects and higher round picks like White and Perriman? Please.
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The Man With No Name
Footballguy
(Rotoworld) Free agent WR Kenny Bell worked out for the Browns. Analysis: It's his first known interest since getting released with an injury settlement before Week 1. The Browns are desperate for receiver help with Corey Coleman (hand) out 4-6 weeks, but Bell wouldn't be more than sub-package depth.
squistion
Footballguy
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
no, he's responding to your blanket statement that pretty much compares every red shirt rookie. you were the one who put Bell, White, and Perriman in the same grouping and he pointed out that they should not be comparable.
Fireinside
Footballguy
Was wrong about him and don't think he will ever amount to nothing.
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