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I just listened to Wild Honey Pie for the first time in years. Not good, but not the worst.
This will be a fun thread.
This will be a fun thread.
Love several of these but seems to have some obvious exclusions. No In My Life??Mister CIA said:My attempt at guessing the top 10, in no particular order.
- I've Just Seen a Face ... Tough call between this and Hide your Love Away from Help Album
- Nowhere Man ... One of those songs where lyrics matter
- I'm Looking Through You
- And Your Bird Can Sing
- She Said She Said
- Lovely Rita
- Blackbird
- Something ... 14 year-old me did not dig this song, but it is sooooo beautiful. It's perfect
- Across the Universe
- Penny Lane ... It's easy to dismiss this as ordinary pop, but I think we all have something inside crying to live in a Penny Lane world. It speaks to me.
HARD PASSEl Floppo said:Since we're into the classics, I feel like I should probably do my top 10 IDLES tunes here @rockaction
for this insanity.
Yeah, but I’m married - Michelle is dreck and this is coming from someone who may listened to The Beatles more than anybody on the bored. I will concede that I’m being hyperbolic putting in last but it’s definitely an insta-skip for me when it comes on Amazon Music.Disagree. If you are both incredibly drunk and dating a woman named Michelle, and at karaoke night, there is at least an outside chance that the song Michelle might get you into a woman’s bed.
Nothing good will ever happen to you as a result of Wild Honey Pie.
Nothing.
krista4 said:The Background:
I don’t remember exactly when or why I decided to do this, but it’s been rumbling around in my head for a while to put the Beatles song into an order of personal preference. When I mentioned this in passing in the Beatles thread, a few folks – @Uruk-Hai, @rockaction, @Ilov80s– encouraged me to do it and post it, while @Eephusnotably told me I was crazy to pursue it.
Your old lady has a thing for Tri-man, huh?Really looking forward to this. #204 was a good choice for last place. Mrs APK is following this with interest too. Quote from her: "other than hearing updates about Tri-man, this is the only noteworthy thing you've mentioned from that website in the last 14 years."
1. I was drunk when I typed that and I’m not sure even I agree with me.I get that for sure.
OTOH, what I love about McCartney is perfectly encapsulated in Silly Love Songs. He hears your criticism, thinks about it a bit, shakes his head, "Nah"... and "here I go again". He leans into it and embraces it.
Watch the vid for Silly Love Songs where he shows each member of the band during the repeated "I Love You"s. It's sincere and open and vulnerable. He knows it's simple and schlocky and still wants to crow about how lucky he is. I love that about him.
Paul could create just about anything. Helter Skelter, Live or Let Die, or some wimpy but still well constructed thing like that.Paul's a fantastic song writer but the over-the-top sickly sweet kitsch of "Silly Love Songs" that is a recurring theme in his oeuvre to greater and lesser degrees is one of the many reasons I find John to be the superior talent. It never even occurred to me that there might be people that genuinely like that song but to each their own obviously. I tend to the darker side of things so that might explain it.
And another for the thread.
HA! I was looking at how much more I like Paul's songs than John's -- and lamenting it a bit since Lennon's have more depth -- and it occurred to me that, for me, a lot of Lennon's songs are better as ideas or as writing than they are songs.Paul's a fantastic song writer but the over-the-top sickly sweet kitsch of "Silly Love Songs" that is a recurring theme in his oeuvre to greater and lesser degrees is one of the many reasons I find John to be the superior talent. It never even occurred to me that there might be people that genuinely like that song but to each their own obviously. I tend to the darker side of things so that might explain it.
And another for the thread.
This is interesting to me, as I find Lennon a far more naive songwriter than McCartney (or Harrison, for that matter).Paul's a fantastic song writer but the over-the-top sickly sweet kitsch of "Silly Love Songs" that is a recurring theme in his oeuvre to greater and lesser degrees is one of the many reasons I find John to be the superior talent. It never even occurred to me that there might be people that genuinely like that song but to each their own obviously. I tend to the darker side of things so that might explain it.
And another for the thread.
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Nah, this is my opinion only. There's no right or wrong. One of the interesting things about art is that we can kind of bend it to mean whatever we want.What an interesting word, naive. I'd love for you to expand on this a little.
My rudimentary knowledge of the Beatles will probably be exposed, but #### it, that's why we're here.
Would love if this forum had an option to text me when you drunk post.1. I was drunk when I typed that and I’m not sure even I agree with me.
2. It’s both awe-inspiring and irritating that I think Paul can basically fire off a decent love song the way the rest of us can fire off a fart (but not in front of our husbands). He’s like a computer generator - just a few inputs and he spits out a good song.
Sorry I’m behind here; been hiking all morning and will have some lunch and drinks and then drunk post more later.
Back in my '79-'81 Bucks County days, Springsteen was verboten in the world of heads (as in potheads).And, as i've recounted before, you had to choose in those days - you couldnt like both Beatles & Stones.
Absolutely. If you doubt Paul's range, there's not just that, but listen to this madness from 1980: Temporary Secretary. He can write any type of song. Any.Paul could create just about anything. Helter Skelter, Live or Let Die, or some wimpy but still well constructed thing like that.
plus one he wrote with Elvis Costello that I always likedAbsolutely. If you doubt Paul's range, there's not just that, but listen to this madness from 1980: Temporary Secretary. He can write any type of song. Any.
How do you feel about the 33 year old Ringo Starr going to #1 singing "You're 16, You're Beautiful and You're Mine"?I forgot that the latter lost some of its lustre
Thought this was going to be Veronica! This is a great tune, too. I just learned today that not only was Elvis Costello's "Veronica" (co-written with McCartney) about Costello's grandmother, but that Paul McCartney's song "That Day is Done" (co-written with Costello) is also about Costello's grandmother.
I can't listen to that song. Completely creeps me out.How do you feel about the 33 year old Ringo Starr going to #1 singing "You're 16, You're Beautiful and You're Mine"?
Also, fun trivia... Carrie Fisher is his love interest in the official music video (in 1978 -- she was 22).
Ooooo, great resource! Bookmarking.I tried to paste this but it looked like it was formatted by Hipple wearing oven mits.
http://www.myrsten.nu/worldnet/beatlesongs.htm
I have been listening to Help! a lot in the past month. The album is full of great tracks but I cannot get enough of the title song and ticket to ride.Should be a good read--I have found myself listening to Abbey Road this past week and just love some of the tracks on there.
This kind of thing was a social phenomenon throughout my youth. Hippies would fall down hard on music that got snapped up by jocks & rotsies & "beeries" and it prevented me from enjoying stuff like Ten Years After & JGeils & Tommy & Rod Stewart, no matter how i might be inclined to on the merits alone. Dunno why, but that bias could get huge.Back in my '79-'81 Bucks County days, Springsteen was verboten in the world of heads (as in potheads).
I Need You.I have been listening to Help! a lot in the past month. The album is full of great tracks but I cannot get enough of the title song and ticket to ride.
Until I started this process, I generally hadn't thought of the Beatles songs in terms of what albums they were on (which is probably weird for a Beatles fanatic). I had no idea how much I loved Help! until I did this. As crazy as it might seem, I think it's my third favorite of their records.I have been listening to Help! a lot in the past month. The album is full of great tracks but I cannot get enough of the title song and ticket to ride.
That's not crazy. Help! is an incredible album. It's difficult to rank Beatles albums since so many are so great.Until I started this process, I generally hadn't thought of the Beatles songs in terms of what albums they were on (which is probably weird for a Beatles fanatic). I had no idea how much I loved Help! until I did this. As crazy as it might seem, I think it's my third favorite of their records.
I wanted to swing back to this as I'd skipped over it feeling like I needed to post another song first. Thank you for doing this! It's so freaking difficult, isn't it?#1 My Sweet Lord (Harrison)
#2 Instant Karma (Lennon)
#3 What is Life (Harrison)
#4 Imagine (Lennon)
#5 Silly Love Songs (McCartney)
#6 It Don't Come Easy (Starr [Harrison])
#7 Band on the Run (McCartney)
#8 Jet (McCartney)
#9 Photograph (Starr)
#10 Give Me Love (Harrison)
#11 With a Little Luck (McCartney)
#12 Live and Let Die (McCartney)
#13 Maybe I'm Amazed (McCartney)
#14 Listen to What the Man Says (McCartney)
#15 Stand by Me (Lennon [King])
#16 Give Peace a Chance (Lennon)
#17 Another Day (McCartney)
#18 Happy X-mas (Lennon)
#19 Whatever Gets You Through the Night (Lennon)
#20 Let Em In (McCartney)
#21 Watching the Wheels (Lennon)
#22 Starting Over (Lennon)
#23 Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey (McCartney)
#24 Woman (Lennon)
#25 #9 Dream (Lennon)
First, thanks to Krista for inspiring this. I'd been thinking about it for a while and she motivated me to pull it together. (NO idea how you could do this with 200+ songs -- I struggled a ton sorting out the middle ten here.)
Notes:
--It would be impossible for this list to be any more subjective. It's my favorites, not "best".
--Cheated with one cover, but Lennon's version of Stand By Me is a great song and a lot better than the other contenders I had at #25.
--Was pleasantly surprised my Top-10 was more balanced than I expected -- Lennon had two of my top four. But then nothing again until #15. I just like McCartney's songs better on average.
--Harrison killed it at #1, #3, #6?, and #10.
--Both of Ringo's were in the top 10 too, but one of those is actually a Harrison tune (It Don't Come Easy).
--If anyone ever asks you which solo song is most like the Beatles -- you can suggest "Another Day". Not sure which album I'd drop it onto, but it'd fit somewhere.
--Other considered, but cut: Crackerbox Palace, All Those Years Ago, Isn't It a Pity (Harrison), Hi Hi Hi, My Love, Coming Up, Junior's Farm, 1985 (McCartney), Working Class Hero, Power to the People (Lennon), You're Sixteen (Starr).
2. Acer's older kidI cant even rank my favorite kids and I only have two of them. 200+ songs is nuts.
"Watching the Wheels" is my favorite John post-Beatles song, and one of my favorite John songs period. As you said somewhere above, many of his lyrics were personal, and this one certainly was. I love everything about the song. The lyrics, the melody, his voice, his message. Sadly, his return from his five year hiatus would be very brief , but what a great song he gave us while departing this world. Even though he isn't physically with us anymore, he still shines on...like the moon and the stars and the sun.For John, going with the well-knowns again, I'll take Watching the Wheels.
Can't argue that #9 is the 203rd most enjoyable Beatles song, but i've listened to the White Album str8thru more than all other Beatles albums combined and never skip R9. It's like a chance to hear Einstein's dreams, see how a magic trick is done. This is not avante-garde, it's the noise in the brainclouds of the most creative ensemble ever assembled. As dreams are what fall behind the file cabinets of the mind, creativity is the trust and dexterity to grab for one of those files before the drawer closes on your hand. Lennon, McCartney et al were the first great artistic minds to have a BBC producer with as much skill as they had inspiration at their disposal and Mr. Martin captured the sound of their braincloud much more closely than AI has yet been able to replicate human intelligence. Skip, OK. Dismiss, no. It is one of the few chances normal folk have to be under the F-1s right up to blast-off.
Kinda this. If anyone asks what Beatles song to put on next, 9 is never the answer. But it’s from the days when albums were albums and not collections of songs... if I could remove it from the album I wouldn’t.Can't argue that #9 is the 203rd most enjoyable Beatles song, but i've listened to the White Album str8thru more than all other Beatles albums combined and never skip R9. It's like a chance to hear Einstein's dreams, see how a magic trick is done. This is not avante-garde, it's the noise in the brainclouds of the most creative ensemble ever assembled. As dreams are what fall behind the file cabinets of the mind, artistic creation is the trust and dexterity to grab for one of those files before the drawer cuts off your hand. Lennon, McCartney et al were the first great artistic minds to have a BBC producer with as much skill as they had inspiration at their disposal and Mr. Martin captured the sound of their braincloud much more closely than AI has yet been able to replicate human intelligence. Skip, yes. Dismiss, no. It is one of the few chances normal folk have to be under the F-1s throughout the countdown.
If you make it through to #1 you're gonna be able to bundle all 200+ of these, add and edit them into a book and retire.203. Revolution 9
Beatles version
Feel like I'm going a bit chalky here with these first (or last) two, but rest assured that the full list will be aggravatingly un-chalky. I really want to like this and am a more natural audience for it than most people, as I'm interested in sound collages and in musique concrète. Wait, is this where we should start talking about Yoko? Maybe I'll save more Yoko discussion for when we get to Ballad of John and Yoko or something else, but here's a preview: I think Yoko is supremely talented. There, I said it. And I'm not sure I can name another song where her influence is so directly felt. But in my opinion this just...doesn't work. I like some of the sounds, but it's too much of a mishmosh of ideas. Even this type of work needs a structure - or maybe better put, a logic - and cohesion, and this doesn't have it. And good lord, it's too long. At three minutes I might listen to it when it comes on, but at 8+, that's a big nope.
It's interesting to me that Paul was doing so much more work in the avant-garde realm at this time, and yet this composition by John was the one to make the album. Maybe that's why Paul didn't want it on there. I know he's said that he (Paul) didn't think his avant-garde work was worthy of their albums, and I doubt he thought John's was either.
Lennon thought he was painting a picture of revolution and spent more time on this song than any other, though I'm not sure if he was pleased with the result since he said later that he mistakenly painted a picture of anti-revolution. I've read that there is a humor in the way it's constructed, and certainly John was known to have a fantastic sense of humor and has said the "number nine" part at the beginning is in there because he just found the way it was said hilarious. Unfortunately Charles Manson heard a lot he liked in this composition and was inspired by it; I guess the "revolution" idea got through to someone. So there are plenty of people - some of them presumably not mass murderers - who "understand" this work better than I do. I'd be interested in hearing from someone who likes this one as to what you like about it. I'm open to learning on this. When it comes down to it, I'm glad they tried this, even though I don't like it.
Mr. krista's thoughts: "My problem with this is that I think that sound collages and tape art…I’m very interested in that stuff. Glenn Gould’s are some of the best things I’ve ever listened to. And it’s clearly artful in the way they’ve done it, but they’re long, immersive, complicated things that need to be perfect in order to work well. It can’t be a montage where you could take any part of it and replace it and it would be the same thing. It still needs to function in the same way as music does. Stuck in the midst of a record like this with pop songs, it’s flung at you. And it doesn’t draw you in. If anyone is interested in this, then Steve Reich, or Glenn Gould’s The Idea of North are really good places to start, and you can then go back to this and see what Yoko was on about. But it’s a lot less artful than the best of collage art. I feel like my aesthetic is much more sympathetic to something like that, and yet I don’t like it."
Suggested cover version: Alarm Will Sound I thought this would be a hard one to find a cover of, but there are a shocking number of cover versions. People be cray. But holy hell, these people performed it live. Though I still don't enjoy the song, this is worth a viewing just for the ballsiness of it. Impressive.
That's awesome.My 1st-grade lunchbox ...#####es. When it mattered what metal lunchbox you had, and Thermoses were still cool.
So yeah, you could say I'm a little partial to the Beatles.
Ha, you’re old.My 1st-grade lunchbox ...#####es. When it mattered what metal lunchbox you had, and Thermoses were still cool.
So yeah, you could say I'm a little partial to the Beatles.
That is awesome. It was fun picking out a metal lunch box before every school year. This isn't nearly as cool as your lunchbox, but a friend gave me this a few years ago. I stash my prescription pills in it.My 1st-grade lunchbox ...#####es. When it mattered what metal lunchbox you had, and Thermoses were still cool.
So yeah, you could say I'm a little partial to the Beatles.
Did you have a Miss Beasley doll?