#71-T - The Thin Ice from The Wall (1979)
Appeared On: 3 ballots (out of 33 . . . 9.1%)
Total Points: 14 points (out of 825 possible points . . . 1.7%)
Top Rankers: @Anarchy99 @Dan Lambskin @BrutalPenguin
Highest Ranking: 15
Live Performances:
PF: 31 (
London - 1980,
Is There Anybody Out There Version)
DG's PF: None
DG: None
RW: 249 (
Berlin - 1990,
Moscow - 2011,
The Wall Live Version)
NM: None
Covers:
Out Of Phase,
Kiki & Herb,
Ian Anderson,
Gia Greene,
Josh Young,
Mac Floyd,
Low Flying Hawks
As one listens to this song, one can easily feel that it is the distillation of Roger Waters' bitter feelings about 'modern life.' The newborn babe looks upon the world naively, with no premonition of the pain in store when he grows up and encounters all the obstacles to happiness in the modern world. The spectre of Syd Barrett also lurks in the background, as one who slipped through 'the crack in the ice' and out of his mind. After the somewhat esoteric, dreamy landscapes of Pink Floyd of years past, the song is a startling summing up of Roger's actual experience of the real world. Though it takes the form of a sad and beautiful warning to the newborn 'Pink,' the much deeper meaning is apparent in the feeling of the piece.
As with the other songs on The Wall, The Thin Ice tells a portion of Pink's story. This song narrates the first couple of years of Pink's life, before he is old enough to realize what has happened to his father. The "Thin Ice" represents the fragile period of innocence in our lives before we can really understand the world around us. Furthermore, the third and fourth lines from the third verse: "Dragging behind you the silent reproach, Of a million tear-stained eyes" act as a very poignant metaphor for the psychological and emotional effects war has not only on the population that suffered it, but also the generation of children left to suffer as the final bearers of that war's damage. It shows thousands of men in the war, either wounded or dead, then goes to Pink in his motel pool suffering over his father's loss in a blood filled pool.
Film Version|
Demo Version|
Reprise Demo
Back in the 80's, after the band had broken up, Roger was asked in an interview if he would you ever perform The Wall again on stage, "No . . . Indoors, it made no sense financially; it's too expensive. And, as it's partially an attack on the inherently greedy nature of stadium rock shows, it would be wrong to do it in stadiums. I might do it outdoors if they ever take the wall down in Berlin." Then, in November 1989, when the wall started coming down he agreed to perform in Berlin in July 1990 (just three weeks after David's version of Floyd played at the Knebworth festival).
All profits were to go to the Memorial Fund for Disaster Relief, a UK-based charity. Waters tried to get the likes of Peter Gabriel, Bruce Springsteen, Eric Clapton, Rod Stewart, and Joe Cocker to perform, but they either declined, were not available, or dropped out.
For Waters, it offered a second chance to stage the production with larger bricks, bigger inflatable puppets, and a larger audience than any of the original Pink Floyd shows, plus a worldwide TV audience. A sell-out crowd of over 250,000 people attended, joined just before the performance by a further 100,000 spectators when the gates were opened. The massive 550-foot long and 82-foot high wall was built in close to the Brandenburg Gate, right on Potsdamer Platz, the no man’s land between East and West Germany, and the production team didn’t know if the area might still be riddled with mines. In fact no-one did, so before setting up they did a sweep of the area and found a cache of munitions and a previously unknown SS regiment bunker.
The show ended up with an eclectic group of guest performers including members of The Band, The Hooters, Van Morrison, Sinead O'Connor, Cyndi Lauper, Marianne Fiathful, The Scorpions, Joni Mitchell, Paul Carrack, Thomas Dolby, and Bryan Adams.
Bob Guccione (who launched SPIN magazine and whose father started Penthouse) wrote a
lengthy article of the performance and commented:
"Roger Waters was anti-climatic and, ultimately, a bore. The concert as an event raised the benchmark for spectacles, like a high jumper setting a new, improbable world record: No single concert has ever been bigger in attendance or venue or scope. And, like a balloon so big that it pops, that’s what ruined this: Everything—the night, the hype, the stage, the idea—drowned the performers and the performance. And the very execution of the show, where a stage crew built the great wall out of Styrofoam bricks so that by the end of the first hour (and effectively, long before that), the musicians were completely removed from view, worked against involvement in it. We —all 300,000 of us—watched 90 percent of the action on TV; giant video screens built into the wall.
In front of his stark white wall, Roger Waters performed alone for the most part, or with extras as props, in this overblown enactment of his life-long insecurity problems. He attempted to appropriate the real wall and real history for his show and choked on his own hubris. The music was, and is (on the newly released live record), exceptional rock’n’roll. But this show lacked the fire of Pink Floyd’s original performances, and Waters lacks the charisma to carry off the audacity of his own idea."
Vulture Ranking (out of 165 songs): 72
Ultimate Classic Rock Ranking (out of 167 songs): 66
Louder Ranking (out of 50 songs): 48
WMGK Ranking (out of 40 songs): 23
Ranker Ranking (out of 132 songs): 33
Billboard Ranking (out of 50 songs): NR
Vulture Ranking (72 out of 165 songs): A minor scene-setting track for The Wall, in which we’re supposed to appreciate the precariousness of Pink’s position. He’s on thin ice, people!
UCR Ranking (66 out of 167 songs): Many of The Wall’s better moments bring together the double album’s two lead singers in a balance of sweet (Gilmour) and sour (Waters). After the overture, the main story begins here, with Gilmour’s gentle, parental cooing in the first verse, followed by Waters’ silver-tongued cynicism in the second. If the “thin ice” is one metaphor too many on an album that has its hands full with one big, blocky metaphor, the swaying guitar solo sounds good.
Louder Ranking (48 out of 50 songs): The second track from The Wall is almost a segue of the opener, telling the story of the central Pink character growing up (opening with the closing crying child from In The Flesh. All runs relatively smoothly, lyrically and musically, until Waters takes over from Gilmour on vocals, warning of “the thin ice of modern life…”, and soon all hell breaks loose with a huge heavy rolling riff reminiscent of In The Flesh.
WMGK Ranking (23 out of 40 songs): The Wall opens with In The Flesh, but that song takes place later in the storyline. The story really begins with track two, The Thin Ice. The song starts with Gilmour’s warm detailing of a baby being born into a loving home. But enter Waters, who warns, “Don't be surprised when a crack in the ice appears under your feet / You slip out of your depth and out of your mind with your fear flowing out behind you / As you claw the thin ice.”
Coming up next (assuming we don't have anyone else that submits a new list), we head back to Ibiza, where Dave feels like a hard-boiled butter man.