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Thomas 46 targets , Decker 44 targets. Decker has 7+ targets every game this year. The difference is just that Thomas is a big play guy and Decker isn't. That's why Thomas is a wr1. However, Decker is Peyton Manning's "#2" which isn't a bad thing. He's also, from what I've watched (I don't have an officially count) had a solid amount of red zone and end zone targets. He's had 1 pass interference in the red zone and had another one that wasn't called. He's not Thomas but that's not the question. He is a guy I personally have tried to trade, because yes he can be boring, but his worst game (point wise) in standard ppr is 4 catches for 53 yards (9 points). Not many guys have that downside, and he's mixed it in with 2 huge games. He's on pace for 90 catches, about 1100 yards and 6 tds. Also, I think defenses will give a little more attention to Thomas as the season goes on. In my ppr league which is pretty standard (2 point bonus for 100 yards, everything else normal) he is #19 in ppg among wr's. I think he's a pretty solid low-end wr2. He's had some low end wr3 games, and has had two wr1 type games. In the end, the 15-22 range sounds about right.
not ragging on him...he's a fine wr but I tend to never have these guys in my roster. I'd rather trade him for a higher risk Bryant. Just always been my philosophy....all different ways to build a roster.
LOL.'bigunreal said:
don't see what is funny about this... Decker has almost equal total targets, has big play ability, Peyton trusts him and goes to him in crunch time, they have an equal amount of TD's, and he is 5th overall this season with "8" redzone targets, and has more than Demarius.. and defenses will definitely roll coverage towards D.Thomas as the season goes on.... not sure how this is an invalid statement
Simple. Decker has about 25% of the talent that D Thomas. Decker will be fine, but to say he his Denver's WR1 is LOL. I know it sucks to have grabbed Decker 2 rounds before DT, but time to face the music. I suppose people will hang on for as long as they can. Will be back in Week 12 and in Week 16 to gloat.
first off 25% the talent my ###, Decker is a great WR....secondly, i don't even have Decker on my fantasy team...thirdly, I am not even arguing that Decker is better than D.Thomas.. that is pretty clear, but in fantasy Decker could end up as the #1 WR simply by how effectively Manning uses him, if the trend continues in the redzone Decker could end up with more TD's and very similar yardage and receptions... could be the equivalent of what Collie was a couple of years ago, even though R.Wayne was the far superior wideout
Thomas had a field day against the undrafted rookie DB Leonard Johnson. They singled Thomas quite a bit with him for some odd reason.On his 2nd TD, somehow they thought doubling him with a 5'9 safety Ahmad Black and a LB would work.....Peyton read and took advantage. Peyton just took advantage of the great matchups Thomas had all game.I think Decker will still have another good game or two, but I think it's become quite apparent who the star #1 is here.
Thomas is an absolutely freak. I'm unsure why people can't understand that. After AJ Green and Calvin, he's right there as one of the top athletes at wr. Decker is solid but he's just a quality number 2 NFL wr. One thing I've noticed though. There was a game a few weeks ago against the bengals where Decker ran a slant at the GL. He let the defender step in front for the int. Seems like Manning hasn't looked for him in the red zone since then and his stats are awful since then. Could be coincidence. Thomas also seems to be playing better every week, which people should have expected.
Tamme lined up in the Slot which was the spot Stokley was occupying.
Not sure what to do now either. I was hoping he would be a solid #2 but at this point he's a flex guy. Im debating starting Chris Givens over him this week if Stevie Johnson isnt able to go.
With the Raiders this week, who give up ungodly passing yards and points, I give Decker another start this week. If he doesn't do it this week, I'm probably done with him.
His targets are way down since that game (19 targets in 4 games since, after averaging nearly 9 a game the first 8 games), so it does make me wonder if Peyton has lost a little bit of confidence in him. More likely is that defenses are taking him out of games, and since he is not a physical freak like Demaryius Thomas who can fight through it and get open despite that, he is not getting as many balls thrown to him. And let's face it, Peyton Manning throws to whoever is open.
He may not have been getting the targets he was earlier in the season but it's against Oakland. It'll be like Christmas morning for most of the Denver O tonight despite it being the dreaded Thursday night matchup. I'd play him.
This is what I believe has happened. I was watching a game three or four weeks ago where Decker dropped a catchable third down conversion opportunity and Manning put his hands on his head like "Not again." Makes me wonder if Decker started having a problem with drops in practice along with his stats in games (believe he is close to the top of the league in drops).One thing's for sure...he fell off the cliff just like that. Would love another option so I could sit him tonight.'Ghost Rider said:
I have 4 WR's around the same level and all of them have big ?'s. I thought I had a treasure trove, but having to pick between a bunch of mid-level performers is agonizing.
I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of guys throwing their shoes at the TV screen.I just haven't figured out it if it will be the guys who have him on their bench or the guys brave enough to start him.
Too early, but to follow up my previous post..He's on pace to do it to me.4-51 in the first half.
