Electric Cars (Tesla and Others) (2 Viewers)

[massraider]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Because they'll be the largest gas station in America.

That may come in handy.

Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date, due to a problem where the accelerator pedal can get stuck, putting drivers at risk of a crash

is that bad

lol

This one they probably can't manage OTA.

 

[Tick]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

No, it can drive through lakes. Elon said so.

 

[Psychopav]

oof. Guess I picked the wrong time to buy Tesla stock.

 

[Joe Schmo]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

 

[Bob Sacamano]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

It'll turn into a Gremlin.

 

[Joe Schmo]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

It'll turn into a Gremlin.

As long as it's not a Pinto

 

[WVU Alum]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

Because then you will clearly see that you bought a malformed Delorean.

 

[Psychopav]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

It'll turn into a Gremlin.

No that's if you feed it after dark.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

It'll turn into a Gremlin.

No that's if you feed it after dark.

Yes, but it wouldn't make sense for a car to multiply if you get it wet.

 

[culdeus]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

That's actually a good idea for all cars.

 

[Joe Schmo]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

That's actually a good idea for all cars.

I had not heard this before, what's the idea behind it?

 

[culdeus]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

That's actually a good idea for all cars.

I had not heard this before, what's the idea behind it?

The main reason is that the sun dries chemicals in the soap faster than you can rinse it off. Those chemicals stick to the car once dried and can act on the paint. Alot of soaps once dried on a surface don't necessarily dissolve easily even when re wetted. The warning to not wash in the sun is on a lot of soaps.

There is a miniscule risk where the temp is above 90 you can sun spot the paint but that is really unlikely. If you ceramic coat your car sun spotting can happen easier. Still a tiny risk.

 

[WVU Alum]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

That's actually a good idea for all cars.

I had not heard this before, what's the idea behind it?

The main reason is that the sun dries chemicals in the soap faster than you can rinse it off. Those chemicals stick to the car once dried and can act on the paint. Alot of soaps once dried on a surface don't necessarily dissolve easily even when re wetted. The warning to not wash in the sun is on a lot of soaps.

There is a miniscule risk where the temp is above 90 you can sun spot the paint but that is really unlikely. If you ceramic coat your car sun spotting can happen easier. Still a tiny risk.

This is a fantastic excuse for when my wife asks me why I never wash my car.

 

[Tick]

is that bad

Meh.

They gotta sort out the Don't Take Your Cybertruck to a Carwash thing anyhoo, so two birds, one stone and all that.

Hmm, don't understand this part:

"The Cybertruck’s owners manual does caution against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight"

Wtf?!? Why??

That's actually a good idea for all cars.

I had not heard this before, what's the idea behind it?

The main reason is that the sun dries chemicals in the soap faster than you can rinse it off. Those chemicals stick to the car once dried and can act on the paint. Alot of soaps once dried on a surface don't necessarily dissolve easily even when re wetted. The warning to not wash in the sun is on a lot of soaps.

There is a miniscule risk where the temp is above 90 you can sun spot the paint but that is really unlikely. If you ceramic coat your car sun spotting can happen easier. Still a tiny risk.

This is a fantastic excuse for when my wife asks me why I never wash my car.

I bought a subscription to a car wash, so I just get it washed whenever I drive past one of the places and am not in a hurry. I'm sure this is not the best thing for the environment, but Michigan puts salt on the roads, so I'm going through the car wash.

 

[Psychopav]

When I picked the EV6 it was in part due to liking the drive better than the Model 3's I tried. Sounds like they have made some real upgrades which are getting me excited about the options that will be there for me when my lease runs out in 2026.

 

[Instinctive]

Made it Dallas to OKC without needing to stop, charged up great once there, made it back again. Surprisingly smooth experience.

 

[Psychopav]

Planning my first "road trip" with my EV6, down to visit my son in Corpus Christi (I live in DFW). There's a couple Electrify America charging stations along the way so I'm planning to stop at one of those because my lease deal includes free charging at EA stations. I'll aim for the closer one so I will have options in case it's filled up when I get there, and I'm staying at a hotel that has complimentary EV charging. A little nervous since this is the first time I'm leaving the area, but leaving some extra time to make sure I don't run into any problems.

I'm thinking of getting a Tesla to J1772 adapter before I go, just to be on the safe side. There's tons of charging stations en route and in Corpus, but I am thinking better safe than sorry. Thoughts? Thoprawishes?

eta: I realized that I can't get a Supercharger to CCS1 so the adapter would be Level 2 speeds at best. I'd be better off just finding another network that can get me fast charging DC speeds, so the adapter is out... :(

Are you sure about this? ABRP sets you to stop at the Austin Capital SC. I don't think it's completely operational yet but there's a V4 nearly done in Houston. When those V4s come online in some number it will be pretty epic.

Be 100% sure the hotel charger is working.

Thanks, I wasn't aware of ABRP It has me stop 3 times if I limit to Level 3 EA stations, but obviously if those aren't available, I can go to others in the area. None of them are particularly remote.

The hotel charger looks pretty shabby - I think it might even be just an L1. But there are 5 different locations with CCS chargers within a mile of the hotel.

Update/story time: the trip was planned for last weekend. I took off Friday and Monday and wasn't too worried about extra time getting tacked on.

I did receive the EV6 recall letter in the mail, saying that if I received an electrical system warning I should immediately pull over and call Kia roadside assistance for a tow "to the nearest Kia dealership". It stated that, should the warning come on and I choose to keep driving, the car could lose power. But they had a similar recall last year and my controller unit was good. I've never had this warning light they talk about in the recall. But I figured I should bring the letter to have the roadside assistance number handy just in case.

I also decided, using ABRP, that I should charge my car up to 100% to give me the least concern about range anxiety on the trip. Normally I only charge to 80%.

So...Friday morning rolls around. Car is charged to 100% as planned. Unplugged, car loaded, I go to pull out of the garage and hear a loud "POP!" when I press the "ignition". Then, of course, the warning light comes on in all its big, bold, illuminated glory. Of course.

I called roadside assistance to have the car towed to the dealer I purchased it from, and they are very friendly. They even called the service center to see what I could expect. Bad news, they wouldn't be able to look at the car until Saturday or maybe even Monday. So I order the tow and wait. About 10 minutes later, I get a text saying the truck would be at the house in 60-90 minutes. I decide not to wait around that long, and in stead have my wife follow me in the family truckster and hope my car doesn't die on the road to the dealership (about 15 minutes away). Luckily, it doesn't.

I leave the car there, get a loaner for my wife, and take the family truckster with me to Corpus to visit the boy. All in all, I lost about an hour and 20 minutes, which ironically gets me in to Corpus at about the same time I would have gotten in with time added for charging stops. The car was ready to go by 4:45 that same day, too. Guess they were just being conservative in the time it would take them to fix. ymmv

Oh well, better to get a new controller unit this way than dying on the road in the middle of the Texas wilderness. The car, that is. Or who knows, maybe both the car AND me. You're just as likely to run into Leatherface as to break down near a Kia dealer here in Texas, after all. Maybe even more likely. Guess my first EV road trip adventure will have to wait.

 

[culdeus]

Planning my first "road trip" with my EV6, down to visit my son in Corpus Christi (I live in DFW). There's a couple Electrify America charging stations along the way so I'm planning to stop at one of those because my lease deal includes free charging at EA stations. I'll aim for the closer one so I will have options in case it's filled up when I get there, and I'm staying at a hotel that has complimentary EV charging. A little nervous since this is the first time I'm leaving the area, but leaving some extra time to make sure I don't run into any problems.

I'm thinking of getting a Tesla to J1772 adapter before I go, just to be on the safe side. There's tons of charging stations en route and in Corpus, but I am thinking better safe than sorry. Thoughts? Thoprawishes?

eta: I realized that I can't get a Supercharger to CCS1 so the adapter would be Level 2 speeds at best. I'd be better off just finding another network that can get me fast charging DC speeds, so the adapter is out... :(

Are you sure about this? ABRP sets you to stop at the Austin Capital SC. I don't think it's completely operational yet but there's a V4 nearly done in Houston. When those V4s come online in some number it will be pretty epic.

Be 100% sure the hotel charger is working.

Thanks, I wasn't aware of ABRP It has me stop 3 times if I limit to Level 3 EA stations, but obviously if those aren't available, I can go to others in the area. None of them are particularly remote.

The hotel charger looks pretty shabby - I think it might even be just an L1. But there are 5 different locations with CCS chargers within a mile of the hotel.

Update/story time: the trip was planned for last weekend. I took off Friday and Monday and wasn't too worried about extra time getting tacked on.

I did receive the EV6 recall letter in the mail, saying that if I received an electrical system warning I should immediately pull over and call Kia roadside assistance for a tow "to the nearest Kia dealership". It stated that, should the warning come on and I choose to keep driving, the car could lose power. But they had a similar recall last year and my controller unit was good. I've never had this warning light they talk about in the recall. But I figured I should bring the letter to have the roadside assistance number handy just in case.

I also decided, using ABRP, that I should charge my car up to 100% to give me the least concern about range anxiety on the trip. Normally I only charge to 80%.

So...Friday morning rolls around. Car is charged to 100% as planned. Unplugged, car loaded, I go to pull out of the garage and hear a loud "POP!" when I press the "ignition". Then, of course, the warning light comes on in all its big, bold, illuminated glory. Of course.

I called roadside assistance to have the car towed to the dealer I purchased it from, and they are very friendly. They even called the service center to see what I could expect. Bad news, they wouldn't be able to look at the car until Saturday or maybe even Monday. So I order the tow and wait. About 10 minutes later, I get a text saying the truck would be at the house in 60-90 minutes. I decide not to wait around that long, and in stead have my wife follow me in the family truckster and hope my car doesn't die on the road to the dealership (about 15 minutes away). Luckily, it doesn't.

I leave the car there, get a loaner for my wife, and take the family truckster with me to Corpus to visit the boy. All in all, I lost about an hour and 20 minutes, which ironically gets me in to Corpus at about the same time I would have gotten in with time added for charging stops. The car was ready to go by 4:45 that same day, too. Guess they were just being conservative in the time it would take them to fix. ymmv

Oh well, better to get a new controller unit this way than dying on the road in the middle of the Texas wilderness. The car, that is. Or who knows, maybe both the car AND me. You're just as likely to run into Leatherface as to break down near a Kia dealer here in Texas, after all. Maybe even more likely. Guess my first EV road trip adventure will have to wait.

Never understood why so many (Tesla included) went with 12v ecall monitors. CT is first 48 system I'm aware of.

 

[Tick]

Planning my first "road trip" with my EV6, down to visit my son in Corpus Christi (I live in DFW). There's a couple Electrify America charging stations along the way so I'm planning to stop at one of those because my lease deal includes free charging at EA stations. I'll aim for the closer one so I will have options in case it's filled up when I get there, and I'm staying at a hotel that has complimentary EV charging. A little nervous since this is the first time I'm leaving the area, but leaving some extra time to make sure I don't run into any problems.

I'm thinking of getting a Tesla to J1772 adapter before I go, just to be on the safe side. There's tons of charging stations en route and in Corpus, but I am thinking better safe than sorry. Thoughts? Thoprawishes?

eta: I realized that I can't get a Supercharger to CCS1 so the adapter would be Level 2 speeds at best. I'd be better off just finding another network that can get me fast charging DC speeds, so the adapter is out... :(

Are you sure about this? ABRP sets you to stop at the Austin Capital SC. I don't think it's completely operational yet but there's a V4 nearly done in Houston. When those V4s come online in some number it will be pretty epic.

Be 100% sure the hotel charger is working.

Thanks, I wasn't aware of ABRP It has me stop 3 times if I limit to Level 3 EA stations, but obviously if those aren't available, I can go to others in the area. None of them are particularly remote.

The hotel charger looks pretty shabby - I think it might even be just an L1. But there are 5 different locations with CCS chargers within a mile of the hotel.

Update/story time: the trip was planned for last weekend. I took off Friday and Monday and wasn't too worried about extra time getting tacked on.

I did receive the EV6 recall letter in the mail, saying that if I received an electrical system warning I should immediately pull over and call Kia roadside assistance for a tow "to the nearest Kia dealership". It stated that, should the warning come on and I choose to keep driving, the car could lose power. But they had a similar recall last year and my controller unit was good. I've never had this warning light they talk about in the recall. But I figured I should bring the letter to have the roadside assistance number handy just in case.

I also decided, using ABRP, that I should charge my car up to 100% to give me the least concern about range anxiety on the trip. Normally I only charge to 80%.

So...Friday morning rolls around. Car is charged to 100% as planned. Unplugged, car loaded, I go to pull out of the garage and hear a loud "POP!" when I press the "ignition". Then, of course, the warning light comes on in all its big, bold, illuminated glory. Of course.

I called roadside assistance to have the car towed to the dealer I purchased it from, and they are very friendly. They even called the service center to see what I could expect. Bad news, they wouldn't be able to look at the car until Saturday or maybe even Monday. So I order the tow and wait. About 10 minutes later, I get a text saying the truck would be at the house in 60-90 minutes. I decide not to wait around that long, and in stead have my wife follow me in the family truckster and hope my car doesn't die on the road to the dealership (about 15 minutes away). Luckily, it doesn't.

I leave the car there, get a loaner for my wife, and take the family truckster with me to Corpus to visit the boy. All in all, I lost about an hour and 20 minutes, which ironically gets me in to Corpus at about the same time I would have gotten in with time added for charging stops. The car was ready to go by 4:45 that same day, too. Guess they were just being conservative in the time it would take them to fix. ymmv

Oh well, better to get a new controller unit this way than dying on the road in the middle of the Texas wilderness. The car, that is. Or who knows, maybe both the car AND me. You're just as likely to run into Leatherface as to break down near a Kia dealer here in Texas, after all. Maybe even more likely. Guess my first EV road trip adventure will have to wait.

Never understood why so many (Tesla included) went with 12v ecall monitors. CT is first 48 system I'm aware of.

It's one of the many very cool innovations that POS has in it.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

 

[Psychopav]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Where is the Dislike button?

 

[matttyl]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

Isn’t it just a byproduct of having all electric engines? Even the Chevy bolt has a 0-60 of 6.5 seconds. Same as the Kia Niro.

 

[Nugget]

Getting my 50 amp outlet installed in the garage next week. I've been using just the standard outlet since December 2022 - excited to be able to charge fully overnight.

 

[Instinctive]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

 

[Psychopav]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

What's the 0-60 spec for your vehicle and how long have you had the car?

I'm curious because I had an ICE that did 0-60 in 4.6 seconds but I truly didn't use it very often at all. That's just way faster than it needs to be. It's fun on occasion but not necessary imo.

 

[Instinctive]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

What's the 0-60 spec for your vehicle and how long have you had the car?

I'm curious because I had an ICE that did 0-60 in 4.6 seconds but I truly didn't use it very often at all. That's just way faster than it needs to be. It's fun on occasion but not necessary imo.

3.0, 6 months


ETA: way more important than 0-60 is like 0-25 and 40-80 for me. It's being able to pop in front of people at lights and to merge or pass effectively on highways.

And, again, it's just super fun.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

On-ramps ftw

 

[Psychopav]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

On-ramps ftw

I get it, but also getting to 60 in 7 seconds is all you really need to accomplish this imo.

 

[Psychopav]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

What's the 0-60 spec for your vehicle and how long have you had the car?

I'm curious because I had an ICE that did 0-60 in 4.6 seconds but I truly didn't use it very often at all. That's just way faster than it needs to be. It's fun on occasion but not necessary imo.

3.0, 6 months


ETA: way more important than 0-60 is like 0-25 and 40-80 for me. It's being able to pop in front of people at lights and to merge or pass effectively on highways.

And, again, it's just super fun.

For sure. But it's also a little bit dangerous and frankly it just stops being as fun after a little while. I'll be interested in hearing your perspective a year from now. After a while, I found I was just driving a little more comfortably and a little less aggressively, and realized I'd be just as happy with a fast sedan that doesn't necessarily challenge the corvettes that I seem to see everywhere around here. The truth is, I have a heavy enough foot that I'm usually the first in line after a stoplight regardless (even now that I've switched to a single motor EV that is just traditional fast as opposed to supercar fast).

 

[BlackCrowes]

hearing Fisker fired everyone today. Damn you Henrik. Fool me once....

 

[Instinctive]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

What's the 0-60 spec for your vehicle and how long have you had the car?

I'm curious because I had an ICE that did 0-60 in 4.6 seconds but I truly didn't use it very often at all. That's just way faster than it needs to be. It's fun on occasion but not necessary imo.

3.0, 6 months


ETA: way more important than 0-60 is like 0-25 and 40-80 for me. It's being able to pop in front of people at lights and to merge or pass effectively on highways.

And, again, it's just super fun.

For sure. But it's also a little bit dangerous and frankly it just stops being as fun after a little while. I'll be interested in hearing your perspective a year from now. After a while, I found I was just driving a little more comfortably and a little less aggressively, and realized I'd be just as happy with a fast sedan that doesn't necessarily challenge the corvettes that I seem to see everywhere around here. The truth is, I have a heavy enough foot that I'm usually the first in line after a stoplight regardless (even now that I've switched to a single motor EV that is just traditional fast as opposed to supercar fast).

I guess we'll see. It was fun for years when I had a manual transmission muscle car that could do it, fun when my Subaru has a turbocharger under the hood...and it's fun int his one too. Different strokes!

 

[Psychopav]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

What's the 0-60 spec for your vehicle and how long have you had the car?

I'm curious because I had an ICE that did 0-60 in 4.6 seconds but I truly didn't use it very often at all. That's just way faster than it needs to be. It's fun on occasion but not necessary imo.

3.0, 6 months


ETA: way more important than 0-60 is like 0-25 and 40-80 for me. It's being able to pop in front of people at lights and to merge or pass effectively on highways.

And, again, it's just super fun.

For sure. But it's also a little bit dangerous and frankly it just stops being as fun after a little while. I'll be interested in hearing your perspective a year from now. After a while, I found I was just driving a little more comfortably and a little less aggressively, and realized I'd be just as happy with a fast sedan that doesn't necessarily challenge the corvettes that I seem to see everywhere around here. The truth is, I have a heavy enough foot that I'm usually the first in line after a stoplight regardless (even now that I've switched to a single motor EV that is just traditional fast as opposed to supercar fast).

I guess we'll see. It was fun for years when I had a manual transmission muscle car that could do it, fun when my Subaru has a turbocharger under the hood...and it's fun int his one too. Different strokes!

Those cars were as fast as this one?

 

[Instinctive]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

What's the 0-60 spec for your vehicle and how long have you had the car?

I'm curious because I had an ICE that did 0-60 in 4.6 seconds but I truly didn't use it very often at all. That's just way faster than it needs to be. It's fun on occasion but not necessary imo.

3.0, 6 months


ETA: way more important than 0-60 is like 0-25 and 40-80 for me. It's being able to pop in front of people at lights and to merge or pass effectively on highways.

And, again, it's just super fun.

For sure. But it's also a little bit dangerous and frankly it just stops being as fun after a little while. I'll be interested in hearing your perspective a year from now. After a while, I found I was just driving a little more comfortably and a little less aggressively, and realized I'd be just as happy with a fast sedan that doesn't necessarily challenge the corvettes that I seem to see everywhere around here. The truth is, I have a heavy enough foot that I'm usually the first in line after a stoplight regardless (even now that I've switched to a single motor EV that is just traditional fast as opposed to supercar fast).

I guess we'll see. It was fun for years when I had a manual transmission muscle car that could do it, fun when my Subaru has a turbocharger under the hood...and it's fun int his one too. Different strokes!

Those cars were as fast as this one?

I doubt it, but they were similarly faster than the other cars on the road with them.

 

[Psychopav]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

What's the 0-60 spec for your vehicle and how long have you had the car?

I'm curious because I had an ICE that did 0-60 in 4.6 seconds but I truly didn't use it very often at all. That's just way faster than it needs to be. It's fun on occasion but not necessary imo.

3.0, 6 months


ETA: way more important than 0-60 is like 0-25 and 40-80 for me. It's being able to pop in front of people at lights and to merge or pass effectively on highways.

And, again, it's just super fun.

For sure. But it's also a little bit dangerous and frankly it just stops being as fun after a little while. I'll be interested in hearing your perspective a year from now. After a while, I found I was just driving a little more comfortably and a little less aggressively, and realized I'd be just as happy with a fast sedan that doesn't necessarily challenge the corvettes that I seem to see everywhere around here. The truth is, I have a heavy enough foot that I'm usually the first in line after a stoplight regardless (even now that I've switched to a single motor EV that is just traditional fast as opposed to supercar fast).

I guess we'll see. It was fun for years when I had a manual transmission muscle car that could do it, fun when my Subaru has a turbocharger under the hood...and it's fun int his one too. Different strokes!

Those cars were as fast as this one?

I doubt it, but they were similarly faster than the other cars on the road with them.

And that's the rub. It won't be long before every soccer mom with a dual motor EV SUV will be just as fast.

 

[gianmarco]

Jeep is promising that its first fully electric model sold in the United States will deliver a “lightning-quick 0-60 mph acceleration time of 3.4 seconds and range of more than 300 miles.”

The 600-horsepower 2024 Jeep Wagoneer S, unveiled Thursday in New York, is being pitched not only as the Stellantis brand's (post-covid Fiat Chrysler + PSA merger) fastest 0-60 mph vehicle to date, even besting the V8-powered 2021 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, but also as its answer to Tesla.

A recent Jeep promotional video puts a preproduction Wagoneer S on a racecourse in Rosamond, California, against a Tesla Model Y Performance variant, with the Wagoneer S ultimately pulling ahead before going off-roading against a Trackhawk.

I think eventually EV's will settle in to a more manageable (and affordable) 0-60 time. Under 5.5 seconds is great, and it's awesome that any random station wagon may someday be faster off the line than the Lambo you see around the area every once in a while, but it's really not at all needed for the vast majority of people or situations. Even those who drive around in the supercars don't hit the gas off the line.

I hit the gas off the line every time, and every single highway merge is a joy. It's awesome.

What's the 0-60 spec for your vehicle and how long have you had the car?

I'm curious because I had an ICE that did 0-60 in 4.6 seconds but I truly didn't use it very often at all. That's just way faster than it needs to be. It's fun on occasion but not necessary imo.

3.0, 6 months


ETA: way more important than 0-60 is like 0-25 and 40-80 for me. It's being able to pop in front of people at lights and to merge or pass effectively on highways.

And, again, it's just super fun.

For sure. But it's also a little bit dangerous and frankly it just stops being as fun after a little while. I'll be interested in hearing your perspective a year from now. After a while, I found I was just driving a little more comfortably and a little less aggressively, and realized I'd be just as happy with a fast sedan that doesn't necessarily challenge the corvettes that I seem to see everywhere around here. The truth is, I have a heavy enough foot that I'm usually the first in line after a stoplight regardless (even now that I've switched to a single motor EV that is just traditional fast as opposed to supercar fast).

I guess we'll see. It was fun for years when I had a manual transmission muscle car that could do it, fun when my Subaru has a turbocharger under the hood...and it's fun int his one too. Different strokes!

Yep, it's still fun for me a year later.

 

[Psychopav]

Sadly, 10-15 years from now none of this will matter, because we won't be the ones driving anyway. The cars will drive themselves.

But at least they might fly too!

 

[Instinctive]

Sadly, 10-15 years from now none of this will matter, because we won't be the ones driving anyway. The cars will drive themselves.

But at least they might fly too!

It has been really nice when I go to OK to have the car drive 2/3 of the way on its own.

But it'll be a lot longer I bet before people aren't driving. If only because you'll have at least some folks like me who enjoy it.

 

[culdeus]

Been doing the fsd trial. It has come a very long way. Only needs a few minor interventions here and there.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Been doing the fsd trial. It has come a very long way. Only needs a few minor interventions here and there.

Does this work the same for all Tesla's or is the new update only available or work better on certain models or certain years? I'm looking at picking up an older used Tesla but wondering if that would still work for this.

 

[culdeus]

Been doing the fsd trial. It has come a very long way. Only needs a few minor interventions here and there.

Does this work the same for all Tesla's or is the new update only available or work better on certain models or certain years? I'm looking at picking up an older used Tesla but wondering if that would still work for this.

Pretty sure it fanned out to the whole fleet.