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Buy low Sell high week 2 (1 Viewer)

Buy low:

Allen Robinson

CJ Anderson

Charles Johnson

Calvin Johnson

Andre Johnson

Sell high:

Kelce - his biggest play was the result of busted coverage, not playmaking ability. Maclin got 9 targets. I don't think there will be enough targets for Kelce this year.

Brady - he's 38 and in a tough division

Forte - his ypc decreased last year despite the line playing better, I think he's close to that cliff. Get your value now.

I totally disagree on Eifert. He's going to be a beast. He had 3 receptions in the first quarter before injury last year. Dalton may have his flaws, but he likes Eifert and he can hit him. People forget that he was a first round pick for a reason. The guy's measurables stack up favorably with Gronk, Graham, and Kelce. What he did week 1, he did in a blow out win.

Probably doesn't fit here, but I'd be trying to snag Dez if I have the depth to trade for him. Ellington looked pretty good before injury, too.

 
I think Duke Johnson may well be a good buy low, though that may be a bit more "under the radar" play.

Crowell did not look good yesterday, and the only thing there otherwise is a currently gimpy Turbin.

I'm seriously thinking of offering Ryan Mathews to a DeMarco Murray owner in redraft, for his Duke Johnson. (cuff for cuff trade)

(yeah I know I'm giving up a bit much, but it may well be a trade good for both of us as I own Crowell)

My only concern is Cleveland didn't necessarily look good in the limited spots I saw them, so unless they figure out how to move the ball more consistently, it may not be a good scenario there for any back.

I wouldn't touch Dez with a ten foot pole.

The last 2 guys I can think of offhand in a similar instance were Julio Jones and Marvin Jones.

Both of those guys lost their seasons.

TZM

 
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I think buy high on Eifert & JJones.

Calvin seems like a buy low but do his owners ever really believe that?

Actually for those who stashed Gordon last year, trading for Dez makes more sense.

 
This thread always ends up with not true buy lows or sell highs. Lots of obvious ones already.

I'll go with Watkins and Hyde.

And AP too, if he's even in the equation.

 
I see some didn't stay up to watch the 2nd game. Can't blame you, that announcing crew was brutal.

But Carlos Hyde is legit.

 
These threads sound good in theory but really all they do is announce to us who had good weeks and the guys who had bad weeks.

And then the theory of buy low sell high is supposed to apply. But it isn't that black and white in fantasy football.

Should you sell a player BC they had a great week? Why? I would only do that if I didn't believe in the players ability or the team they are on.

For instance, many Fbg members a really worried about Payton manning. Ok fine. Wait for him to have a solid week and sell high. That makes sense.

But sell high on Carlos Hyde? Eifert? Kelce? Why? It makes no sense. These guys are studs just blossoming and coming into their own and are all focal points in their offenses. Just dumb imo.

 
Buy Low on Brees. People see 1 TD and think the expected decline is real. But I see a guy who threw for 355 yds against a tough Arizona defense.

 
rickyg said:
These threads sound good in theory but really all they do is announce to us who had good weeks and the guys who had bad weeks.

And then the theory of buy low sell high is supposed to apply. But it isn't that black and white in fantasy football.

Should you sell a player BC they had a great week? Why? I would only do that if I didn't believe in the players ability or the team they are on.

For instance, many Fbg members a really worried about Payton manning. Ok fine. Wait for him to have a solid week and sell high. That makes sense.

But sell high on Carlos Hyde? Eifert? Kelce? Why? It makes no sense. These guys are studs just blossoming and coming into their own and are all focal points in their offenses. Just dumb imo.
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Hello, this is a buy low sell high thread / fantasy football discussion. That's the fun of it. Unless you have no balls.

To suggest that X player is off the market is what's even dumber.

 
rickyg said:
But sell high on Carlos Hyde? Eifert? Kelce? Why? It makes no sense. These guys are studs just blossoming and coming into their own and are all focal points in their offenses. Just dumb imo.
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Because we're reading tea leaves here. Some of us think Hyde is overrated, so best to get some value now. Kelce is a good talent, but he won't get the targets he needs to be top 3, so might as well profit off of a busted play that inflated his stats.

FWIW, I think this thread is targeted towards redraft. That's how I view it anyway.

 
kOOk said:
rickyg said:
These threads sound good in theory but really all they do is announce to us who had good weeks and the guys who had bad weeks.

And then the theory of buy low sell high is supposed to apply. But it isn't that black and white in fantasy football.

Should you sell a player BC they had a great week? Why? I would only do that if I didn't believe in the players ability or the team they are on.

For instance, many Fbg members a really worried about Payton manning. Ok fine. Wait for him to have a solid week and sell high. That makes sense.

But sell high on Carlos Hyde? Eifert? Kelce? Why? It makes no sense. These guys are studs just blossoming and coming into their own and are all focal points in their offenses. Just dumb imo.
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Hello, this is a buy low sell high thread / fantasy football discussion. That's the fun of it. Unless you have no balls.To suggest that X player is off the market is what's even dumber.
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What do balls have to do with this? Is a woman fantasy football later not able to buy low sell high?

That's just racialism rt there. ;)

I get the concept y'idgit...been playing ff for 20 years.

What I'm saying is that just BC a player had a good week 1 doesn't make the a good sell high candidate.

People are just coming on the thread listing players to sell high or buy low and not posting any rationale behind WHY.

So I'm asking you, kookmesiter. WHY sell kelce high? The dude is a BEAST in his first season as a full time starting TE. and Alex smith doesn't throw Tds to wide receivers.

So why sell high? Why not just keep this guy who has a chance to rival gronk as the top TE this year?

 
FF Ninja said:
rickyg said:
But sell high on Carlos Hyde? Eifert? Kelce? Why? It makes no sense. These guys are studs just blossoming and coming into their own and are all focal points in their offenses. Just dumb imo.
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Because we're reading tea leaves here. Some of us think Hyde is overrated, so best to get some value now. Kelce is a good talent, but he won't get the targets he needs to be top 3, so might as well profit off of a busted play that inflated his stats.

FWIW, I think this thread is targeted towards redraft. That's how I view it anyway.
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I suppose if you think these players are just downhill from here then that's a reason to sell high. Have at it then. Carry on.

 
Just curious what people are expecting to get for Kelce and Eiffert? I'm not sure I'd move either of them unless Gronk was involved. Both of these guys have a great shot at being top 5 TEs so unless you have a great replacement (which most people don't really draft a solid backup TE) I don't see the value in moving them.

 
Olsen may also be a decent buy low...a lot of TEs did well this week so some guys might be willing to cash out but Olsen in an offense with zero receiving talent...he'll get his targets.

 
rickyg said:
kOOk said:
rickyg said:
These threads sound good in theory but really all they do is announce to us who had good weeks and the guys who had bad weeks.

And then the theory of buy low sell high is supposed to apply. But it isn't that black and white in fantasy football.

Should you sell a player BC they had a great week? Why? I would only do that if I didn't believe in the players ability or the team they are on.

For instance, many Fbg members a really worried about Payton manning. Ok fine. Wait for him to have a solid week and sell high. That makes sense.

But sell high on Carlos Hyde? Eifert? Kelce? Why? It makes no sense. These guys are studs just blossoming and coming into their own and are all focal points in their offenses. Just dumb imo.
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Hello, this is a buy low sell high thread / fantasy football discussion. That's the fun of it. Unless you have no balls.To suggest that X player is off the market is what's even dumber.
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What do balls have to do with this? Is a woman fantasy football later not able to buy low sell high?

That's just racialism rt there. ;)

I get the concept y'idgit...been playing ff for 20 years.

What I'm saying is that just BC a player had a good week 1 doesn't make the a good sell high candidate.

People are just coming on the thread listing players to sell high or buy low and not posting any rationale behind WHY.

So I'm asking you, kookmesiter. WHY sell kelce high? The dude is a BEAST in his first season as a full time starting TE. and Alex smith doesn't throw Tds to wide receivers.

So why sell high? Why not just keep this guy who has a chance to rival gronk as the top TE this year?
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Do you really need the "why" explained to you? The answer is because his perceived value in the market is inflated above what it actually should be.

If you come across another owner that thinks Kelce is on the verge of being another Gronk, and will give you a McCoy or a Murray or a Calvin Johnson 1st/2nd round type, then you sell. The probability is that Kelce's true value still lies near his 4th-ish round ADP, just like it was three days ago.

 
Buy Low -

Calvin Johnson - His owners are likely panicking based on the usage, lack of targets, and comments from the staff that they wouldn't force the ball to him.

Charles Johnson - After last night's game, there is a good chance his owner may sell him for peanuts.

Allen Robinson - He faced a true shutdown corner in Josh Norman...but very few seem to realize that. Take advantage of people thinking his play was a result of gameplan or poor performance.

Joique Bell - Abdullah is the big name in Detroit, so Bell owners may be antsy. I'd only buy him at a really deep discount, but he may be available for that.

Devante Parker - It's going to take some patience with him...but I wouldn't be surprised if some of his owners are frustrated at his non-involvement in week 1.

Lamar Miller - His usage was similar to the worst of last year, which could scare some people into thinking he isn't making the steps forward this year.

Jeremy Maclin - He had a solid game, but nothing spectacular. I feel like he could have a really good season and this may be the lowest point to acquire him.

Frank Gore - Looked washed up. That probably means he'll be a cheap purchase.

Sell High

Ameer Abdullah - He looked electric and like a stud, and he very well could be that this year. I can't speak for all leagues, but the offers are flying in for him in the three where I own him...and some people are willing to pay A LOT for him. If you can get an elite piece for a potentially elite guy like Abdullah, go for it.

Demarco Murray - There are a lot of people who just look at fantasy points, and he had a good game in that regard. If you can get another RB in a better spot, it's a good sell.

Tom Brady - Recent history has shown us that he is no longer an elite fantasy performer, but after week one, there's a good chance you can get someone to pay you as such.

 
Do any of you really play in leagues where someone is selling guys that were drafted in the first 4 rounds after week one with poor stats? I'd love to buy low on Calvin but I've never been in a league where guys bail this early.

 
solorca said:
Buy Low -

Calvin Johnson - His owners are likely panicking based on the usage, lack of targets, and comments from the staff that they wouldn't force the ball to him.

Charles Johnson - After last night's game, there is a good chance his owner may sell him for peanuts.

Allen Robinson - He faced a true shutdown corner in Josh Norman...but very few seem to realize that. Take advantage of people thinking his play was a result of gameplan or poor performance.

Joique Bell - Abdullah is the big name in Detroit, so Bell owners may be antsy. I'd only buy him at a really deep discount, but he may be available for that.

Devante Parker - It's going to take some patience with him...but I wouldn't be surprised if some of his owners are frustrated at his non-involvement in week 1.

Lamar Miller - His usage was similar to the worst of last year, which could scare some people into thinking he isn't making the steps forward this year.

Jeremy Maclin - He had a solid game, but nothing spectacular. I feel like he could have a really good season and this may be the lowest point to acquire him.

Frank Gore - Looked washed up. That probably means he'll be a cheap purchase.

Sell High

Ameer Abdullah - He looked electric and like a stud, and he very well could be that this year. I can't speak for all leagues, but the offers are flying in for him in the three where I own him...and some people are willing to pay A LOT for him. If you can get an elite piece for a potentially elite guy like Abdullah, go for it.

Demarco Murray - There are a lot of people who just look at fantasy points, and he had a good game in that regard. If you can get another RB in a better spot, it's a good sell.

Tom Brady - Recent history has shown us that he is no longer an elite fantasy performer, but after week one, there's a good chance you can get someone to pay you as such.
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This is a good list

 
::::SIGH::::

nobody in their right mind is going to throw in the towel on a player after one week and selll them cheap. Such a silly thread.

 
Pipes said:
solorca said:
Buy Low -

Calvin Johnson - His owners are likely panicking based on the usage, lack of targets, and comments from the staff that they wouldn't force the ball to him.

Charles Johnson - After last night's game, there is a good chance his owner may sell him for peanuts.

Allen Robinson - He faced a true shutdown corner in Josh Norman...but very few seem to realize that. Take advantage of people thinking his play was a result of gameplan or poor performance.

Joique Bell - Abdullah is the big name in Detroit, so Bell owners may be antsy. I'd only buy him at a really deep discount, but he may be available for that.

Devante Parker - It's going to take some patience with him...but I wouldn't be surprised if some of his owners are frustrated at his non-involvement in week 1.

Lamar Miller - His usage was similar to the worst of last year, which could scare some people into thinking he isn't making the steps forward this year.

Jeremy Maclin - He had a solid game, but nothing spectacular. I feel like he could have a really good season and this may be the lowest point to acquire him.

Frank Gore - Looked washed up. That probably means he'll be a cheap purchase.

Sell High

Ameer Abdullah - He looked electric and like a stud, and he very well could be that this year. I can't speak for all leagues, but the offers are flying in for him in the three where I own him...and some people are willing to pay A LOT for him. If you can get an elite piece for a potentially elite guy like Abdullah, go for it.

Demarco Murray - There are a lot of people who just look at fantasy points, and he had a good game in that regard. If you can get another RB in a better spot, it's a good sell.

Tom Brady - Recent history has shown us that he is no longer an elite fantasy performer, but after week one, there's a good chance you can get someone to pay you as such.
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This is a good list
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Prior to week 1's game (4 TDs), Brady had 4000 yds and 40 TDs over his previous 16 games. If that isn't elite, what is?

 
Hu-Tang Clan said:
Do any of you really play in leagues where someone is selling guys that were drafted in the first 4 rounds after week one with poor stats? I'd love to buy low on Calvin but I've never been in a league where guys bail this early.
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Really depends on the person and situation. Say they had Ellington and no depth behind him, but they have good backup WRs. Maybe dangle some Abdullah and see if he bites.

 
Mortimer Ichabod said:
Pipes said:
solorca said:
Buy Low -

Calvin Johnson - His owners are likely panicking based on the usage, lack of targets, and comments from the staff that they wouldn't force the ball to him.

Charles Johnson - After last night's game, there is a good chance his owner may sell him for peanuts.

Allen Robinson - He faced a true shutdown corner in Josh Norman...but very few seem to realize that. Take advantage of people thinking his play was a result of gameplan or poor performance.

Joique Bell - Abdullah is the big name in Detroit, so Bell owners may be antsy. I'd only buy him at a really deep discount, but he may be available for that.

Devante Parker - It's going to take some patience with him...but I wouldn't be surprised if some of his owners are frustrated at his non-involvement in week 1.

Lamar Miller - His usage was similar to the worst of last year, which could scare some people into thinking he isn't making the steps forward this year.

Jeremy Maclin - He had a solid game, but nothing spectacular. I feel like he could have a really good season and this may be the lowest point to acquire him.

Frank Gore - Looked washed up. That probably means he'll be a cheap purchase.

Sell High

Ameer Abdullah - He looked electric and like a stud, and he very well could be that this year. I can't speak for all leagues, but the offers are flying in for him in the three where I own him...and some people are willing to pay A LOT for him. If you can get an elite piece for a potentially elite guy like Abdullah, go for it.

Demarco Murray - There are a lot of people who just look at fantasy points, and he had a good game in that regard. If you can get another RB in a better spot, it's a good sell.

Tom Brady - Recent history has shown us that he is no longer an elite fantasy performer, but after week one, there's a good chance you can get someone to pay you as such.
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This is a good list
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Prior to week 1's game (4 TDs), Brady had 4000 yds and 40 TDs over his previous 16 games. If that isn't elite, what is?
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I owned Brady last year so I was a bit surprised to notice while I was prepping for the draft that he finished QB10 last year. And QB13 in 2013.

 
davearm said:
Mortimer Ichabod said:
Pipes said:
solorca said:
Buy Low -

Calvin Johnson - His owners are likely panicking based on the usage, lack of targets, and comments from the staff that they wouldn't force the ball to him.

Charles Johnson - After last night's game, there is a good chance his owner may sell him for peanuts.

Allen Robinson - He faced a true shutdown corner in Josh Norman...but very few seem to realize that. Take advantage of people thinking his play was a result of gameplan or poor performance.

Joique Bell - Abdullah is the big name in Detroit, so Bell owners may be antsy. I'd only buy him at a really deep discount, but he may be available for that.

Devante Parker - It's going to take some patience with him...but I wouldn't be surprised if some of his owners are frustrated at his non-involvement in week 1.

Lamar Miller - His usage was similar to the worst of last year, which could scare some people into thinking he isn't making the steps forward this year.

Jeremy Maclin - He had a solid game, but nothing spectacular. I feel like he could have a really good season and this may be the lowest point to acquire him.

Frank Gore - Looked washed up. That probably means he'll be a cheap purchase.

Sell High

Ameer Abdullah - He looked electric and like a stud, and he very well could be that this year. I can't speak for all leagues, but the offers are flying in for him in the three where I own him...and some people are willing to pay A LOT for him. If you can get an elite piece for a potentially elite guy like Abdullah, go for it.

Demarco Murray - There are a lot of people who just look at fantasy points, and he had a good game in that regard. If you can get another RB in a better spot, it's a good sell.

Tom Brady - Recent history has shown us that he is no longer an elite fantasy performer, but after week one, there's a good chance you can get someone to pay you as such.
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This is a good list
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Prior to week 1's game (4 TDs), Brady had 4000 yds and 40 TDs over his previous 16 games. If that isn't elite, what is?
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I owned Brady last year so I was a bit surprised to notice while I was prepping for the draft that he finished QB10 last year. And QB13 in 2013.
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Agree. I think the "experts" just missed on ranking him correctly for a while, not that he isn't elite anymore.

Also, Peterson, from what I'm seeing as a reaction this morning, is a buy low. A month from now, he will be back to every week top 5RB consideration.

 
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What exactly would ya say is buying low on ADP? It appears from what Ive read that some may have used the 1.01 to acquire?

Would ya expect being able to use your 3rd Rnd RB/WR to acquire AP?

Buy low team (buyer beware/ imo)

QB: PMan

RB: ADP

Gore

WR: Megatron Or Tate

Smitty Or Aiken

Johnson Or Jackson

TE: Thomas

 
buy:

p manning - too much chicken little regarding arm strength, as he slung a few solidly down field. faced a tough defense. historically, he has rarely succeeded against baltimore.

a peterson - team usage out of sorts. 10 carries seems very low.

d murray - kelly called 52 passes, and 16 runs, a trend which will likely not continue.

d moncrief - looked like #2 option, and should do well even with t.y. in the lineup.

sell:

j jones - we've seen this play before, week to week boom/bust.

m mariota

cj anderson - worried about kubiak, who didn't put his full faith behind cj. hillman could easily steal the show.

 
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Those trying to buy Peyton Manning, are you going on just history or did you notice anything regarding arm strength. Everything I'm reading is that his throws looked bad. I'm an owner who didn't watch the game and drafted him over Big Ben and thinking I can make a straight up trade if I need to.

 
Gottabesweet said:
Those trying to buy Peyton Manning, are you going on just history or did you notice anything regarding arm strength. Everything I'm reading is that his throws looked bad. I'm an owner who didn't watch the game and drafted him over Big Ben and thinking I can make a straight up trade if I need to.
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Yeah no way I'm buying Peyton. Guy's throwing wounded ducks in perfect weather up in the thin air. What's he going to look like once November hits? There are much better options at QB right now than him.

 
Pipes said:
Gottabesweet said:
Those trying to buy Peyton Manning, are you going on just history or did you notice anything regarding arm strength. Everything I'm reading is that his throws looked bad. I'm an owner who didn't watch the game and drafted him over Big Ben and thinking I can make a straight up trade if I need to.
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Yeah no way I'm buying Peyton. Guy's throwing wounded ducks in perfect weather up in the thin air. What's he going to look like once November hits? There are much better options at QB right now than him.
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Considering offering a straight up Ben for Peyton trade, I'm kicking myself for taking Peyton over Ben in the 4th. Then watched Ben go two rounds later.

 
Some of the buy low candidates just never work out b/c of what owners invested. I doubt you are going to find anybody willing to give up AP for anything less then maybe a Jamaal Charles or Leveon Bell. It just isn't going to happen after one week. The targets of this list really should be limited to fringe tier players. That's where you find owners willing to be persuaded and more easily influenced off of a small sample size.

 
FF Ninja said:
Buy low:

Allen Robinson

CJ Anderson

Charles Johnson

Calvin Johnson

Andre Johnson

Sell high:

Kelce - his biggest play was the result of busted coverage, not playmaking ability. Maclin got 9 targets. I don't think there will be enough targets for Kelce this year.

Brady - he's 38 and in a tough division

Forte - his ypc decreased last year despite the line playing better, I think he's close to that cliff. Get your value now.

I totally disagree on Eifert. He's going to be a beast. He had 3 receptions in the first quarter before injury last year. Dalton may have his flaws, but he likes Eifert and he can hit him. People forget that he was a first round pick for a reason. The guy's measurables stack up favorably with Gronk, Graham, and Kelce. What he did week 1, he did in a blow out win.

Probably doesn't fit here, but I'd be trying to snag Dez if I have the depth to trade for him. Ellington looked pretty good before injury, too.
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That's a lot of "Son's"

 
Gottabesweet said:
Those trying to buy Peyton Manning, are you going on just history or did you notice anything regarding arm strength. Everything I'm reading is that his throws looked bad. I'm an owner who didn't watch the game and drafted him over Big Ben and thinking I can make a straight up trade if I need to.
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When Manning had time and space to step into his throws and get his body behind it, he threw decent. With defenders in his face, not-so-much.

Most defenses cannot put as much pressure on the qb while covering receivers as well as the Ravens. You can go back to the playoffs in 2012 to see Peyton make the same bad throws against the same defense. Since Denver doesn't play Baltimore or Seattle every week, I'll say better days are on the horizon.

 
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If i could buy one guy low, it would be Brandin Cooks. Brees' missed him twice. He was shadowed by Peterson the whole game and still had 4-53. Could have easily been 6-90 TD. I see big things coming.

 
Hu-Tang Clan said:
Do any of you really play in leagues where someone is selling guys that were drafted in the first 4 rounds after week one with poor stats? I'd love to buy low on Calvin but I've never been in a league where guys bail this early.
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The only time studs move in my league is within the first 3-4 weeks.

 
cloppbeast said:
Gottabesweet said:
Those trying to buy Peyton Manning, are you going on just history or did you notice anything regarding arm strength. Everything I'm reading is that his throws looked bad. I'm an owner who didn't watch the game and drafted him over Big Ben and thinking I can make a straight up trade if I need to.
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When Manning had time and space to step into his throws and get his body behind it, he threw decent. With defenders in his face, not-so-much.

Most defenses cannot put as much pressure on the qb while covering receivers as well as the Ravens. You can go back to the playoffs in 2012 to see Peyton make the same bad throws against the same defense. Since Denver doesn't play Baltimore or Seattle every week, I'll say better days are on the horizon.
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@KC this week, above average pass rush and solid secondary. Short week as well.

 
FF Ninja said:
Buy low:

Allen Robinson

CJ Anderson

Charles Johnson

Calvin Johnson

Andre Johnson

Sell high:

Kelce - his biggest play was the result of busted coverage, not playmaking ability. Maclin got 9 targets. I don't think there will be enough targets for Kelce this year.

Brady - he's 38 and in a tough division

Forte - his ypc decreased last year despite the line playing better, I think he's close to that cliff. Get your value now.
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With the exception of Megatron, I disagree with all of these

 
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