Alabama Voters reject Roy Moore: Update: Roy is running again! (1 Viewer)

[Zow]

If Moore did not have any of the accusations levied against him, do you think Jones would have won?

Of course.  Not because it would have been the "right" choice but because Alabama has a history of always choosing the Republican. The fact that the Republican then lost is a big deal. 

 

[adonis]

I like how everyone is blaming Bannon when the Orange went out of his way to endorse Moore.  Bannon is merely a micro-level occurrence able to move only the most unreasonable and brainwashed. 

Normal people, regardless of their political affiliation, don't vote for kid-touchers. 

Trump struck out twice in Alabama.  

 

[Capella]

"Wow I'm glad the pedophile who was sexually attracted to a 14-year-old didn't win"

Woz: WELL ACTUALLY

 

[Ilov80s]

I need to get up early but I'm gonna wait awhile for this. 

My guess based on his recent activity: we won't see Roy Moore speak tonight. 

 

[jon_mx]

Why would you think it sends a wrong message that a news channel is taking sides against a man credibly accused of assaulting a 14 year old girl?

Do you also think they shouldn't show their bias against other alleged criminals - like should they have presented a fair and balanced report that sympathized with the guy that just set off the bomb in NYC?

It was a close election in which these are allegations and not established facts.  We are not certain there was even a crime, unlike a bombing.  On partisan issues, they should try to maintain neutral on the way they present a story.  

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Who's gonna tell Donald?

 

[Sand]

If Moore did not have any of the accusations levied against him, do you think Jones would have won?

No, but Moore always had a low ceiling, so he probably would have only won by 8pts or so (recall we're talking about a state that voted for Trump by 28).  

Moore won his second round on the AL supreme court by only 4 against a fairly pedestrian Dem candidate.

 

[Aerial Assault]

He's a GREAT candidate and ran a great campaign. He was actually out there talking about the issues while Moore was hiding. He deserves this for a lot of reasons other than not molesting young girls.

That’s right.  He was a fantastic recruit and ran a terrific campaign.  I thought he was pretty special the first time I heard about him.  

 

[sho nuff]

@AAABatteries - guys, lets dial it down a little its a crazy night, but let's not add to joe's workload. 

Wasit not a joke because of the falcons stuff?  Seemed pretty  obvious.

 

[NutterButter]

can we then just focus on the positive and not engage if it feels that way?

Too much history to discuss without dragging it into the mud

i'm feeling nothing but positive tonight

 

[The General]

Jones giving a nice speech here- he has some potential. Maybe he deserves a bit of credit here too. 

For starters he didn’t cruise the mall for dates.

 

[Jackstraw]

If Moore did not have any of the accusations levied against him, do you think Jones would have won?

Yeah but that’s the thing. Republicans have lost at least three senate elections recently because of wackos as candidates. Each one looks like a fluke but there’s a clear pattern. 

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Breaking news: we're not in court. I don't care about your criminal legal theory. 

But we're in an English-speaking country, so we may as well get the semantics right. Just call him an accused child molester instead of a pedophile and I think everyone might be satisfied.

 

[Northern Voice]

Trump tweet is surprisingly hinged.

 

[Hilts]

Pretty sure most states recognize sexually touching 14-year-olds as pedophiles. This is the all-time dumbest argument anybody has ever picked with me. Weird hill to climb on guy. 

He's right in a legal and technical sense. For everyday conversation and easy to understand flow of things, you're correct. 

 

[adonis]

Ok, who wrote Trump's tweet?  I bet it was his lawyer.  Trump's passed out on the sofa in a diet coke induced coma.

Just had a mental image of a team of folks around him trying to pry the iPhone out of his hands without waking him up. Creeping closer, slowly pulling it from his grip...he snorts...they pull back quickly.  He starts snoring again, and they go in for it once more...

 

[Ilov80s]

Wow Trump being very diplomatic and Presidential tonight. 

 

[Doctor Detroit]

My guess based on his recent activity: we won't see Roy Moore speak tonight. 

He's got a weird spokesman and a Jew-loving wife, so I'll wait. 

 

[Koya]

Wasit not a joke because of the falcons stuff?  Seemed pretty  obvious.

no idea, just trying to keep things cool.

a great night for the USA and true Americans everywhere

 

[Steve Tasker]

Trump tweet is surprisingly hinged.

Don't pay attention to the trolls.

 

[HellToupee]

Luther would’ve won

 

[Capella]

But we're in an English-speaking country, so we may as well get the semantics right. Just call him an accused child molester instead of a pedophile and I think everyone might be satisfied.

Thanks, but again, I'm quite ok. People colloquially don't use the words you chose. If we were in court, fine. We're on a stupid message board so it's not necessary. 

 

[Sand]

 

And lighten up, Francis.

 

[Righetti]

Trump tweet is surprisingly hinged.

Cause he didn’t write it

 

[packersfan]

I like how everyone is blaming Bannon when the Orange went out of his way to endorse Moore.  Bannon is merely a micro-level occurrence able to move only the most unreasonable and brainwashed. 

McConnell needs a scapegoat and he doesn't have the stones to criticize Trump. Bannon had nothing to do with this. The result tonight was a rejection of a grossly unfit candidate and a strong rejection of the Trump agenda. Bannon had nothing to do with this.

We haven't had many great nights since Trump won but this sure is one of them. Thank you Alabama. 

 

[Slapdash]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago

Congratulations to Doug Jones on a hard fought victory. The write-in votes played a very big factor, but a win is a win. The people of Alabama are great, and the Republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. It never ends!

Lol, 0% chance this was written by Trump

 

[bigbottom]

Wow Trump being very diplomatic and Presidential tonight. 

Agreed. Let’s see if he remains that way in the morning. 

 

[Henry Ford]

Ok, who wrote Trump's tweet?  I bet it was his lawyer.  Trump's passed out on the sofa in a diet coke induced sofa.

You sure do like sofas. 

 

[adonis]

Ok, who wrote Trump's tweet?  I bet it was his lawyer.  Trump's passed out on the sofa in a diet coke induced sofa.

You sure do like sofas. 

I like scotch sofas.

 

[cosjobs]

Watch out for his backswing and clipping you for calling names 

You seem testy. Relax. Its just a repudiation of your party.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Wow Trump being very diplomatic and Presidential tonight. 

This is the night when he finally became President.

 

[HellToupee]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago

Congratulations to Doug Jones on a hard fought victory. The write-in votes played a very big factor, but a win is a win. The people of Alabama are great, and the Republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. It never ends!

Very well put 

 

[NutterButter]

@realDonaldTrump 3m

Congratulations to Doug Jones on a hard fought victory. The write-in votes played a very big factor, but a win is a win. The people of Alabama are great, and the Republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. It never ends!

which one of his staffers wrote that?   there's way too much substance in that tweet.  

 

[Native]

What I find interesting about this vote is not just that Jones took the state, but how he did so. Yes he won in the larger counties like Jefferson (Birmingham) and Montgomery, but that was expected. Jones also won two dozen other smaller counties that the Dems NEVER get. This was a victory driven by voters who represent a true-cross section of the state.

Props to the people of Alabama.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

"Wow I'm glad the pedophile who was sexually attracted to a 14-year-old didn't win"

Woz: WELL ACTUALLY

Seems like turf semantics. 

 

[Biff84]

Got a chill when the crowd started chanting USA! USA! USA! there.

Yeah it really felt like a turning point for the country. Like these are the people who represent the country now rather than the MAGA crew. 

 

[Ilov80s]

This is the night when he finally became President.

lol, I wonder what he will become tomorrow AM after an hour of Fox and Friends?

 

[cosjobs]

I like how everyone is blaming Bannon when the Orange went out of his way to endorse Moore.  Bannon is merely a micro-level occurrence able to move only the most unreasonable and brainwashed. 

Normal people, regardless of their political affiliation, don't vote for kid-touchers. 

John Schindler‏Verified account @20committee 3m3 minutes ago

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Who but Roy Moore, Steve Bannon & Donald Trump could lose to a Democrat in Alabama?

 

[Koya]

Luther would’ve won

EASY.

 

[HellToupee]

You seem testy. Relax. Its just a repudiation of your party.

I didn’t want the creeper to win. 

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Who's gonna tell Donald?

I smell an opportunity for a Hitler speech rift here.

 

[CowboysFromHell]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago

Congratulations to Doug Jones on a hard fought victory. The write-in votes played a very big factor, but a win is a win. The people of Alabama are great, and the Republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. It never ends!

It only took 13 months for him to make 1 intelligent, humble tweet. Merry Christmas!

 

[OrtonToOlsen]

@Zow is 100% correct when it comes to the legal definitions.  I too am guilty of calling Moore a pedo.  I guess it just fits better and is more easily identifiable.

But, as a person that has 22 years of experience working with teenagers, it is just a sickening.

I don’t feel like going into details blah blah blah but dudes that prey on/groom teens are...in some ways...scarier than actual pedos.  

I won’t debate it tonight.

 

[bud29]

which one of his staffers wrote that?   there's way too much substance in that tweet.  

Scavino

 

[Zow]

Thanks, but again, I'm quite ok. People colloquially don't use the words you chose. If we were in court, fine. We're on a stupid message board so it's not necessary. 

This is been my shtick pet peeve on this board for awhile.  But, I am right.  And I really do thing there's a difference between the two, with pedophilia being much worse.  

ETA: I really do mean these posts as, essentially, a joke.  Not trying to derail this thread. 

 

[cosjobs]

Got a chill when the crowd started chanting USA! USA! USA! there.

First time I heard it from non nazis in a while. We're taking this one back #####es.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Thanks, but again, I'm quite ok. People colloquially don't use the words you chose. If we were in court, fine. We're on a stupid message board so it's not necessary. 

Thinking that accuracy doesn't matter as long as you're impugning your ideological opponent is part of the problem with current political discourse, IMO. Even child molesters deserve not to be lied about.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

As far as legislating, Jones is going to have to vote Republican at times but can probably stay middle of the road enough to not be pummeled by the far far right. 

 

[Steve Tasker]

lol at this CNN reporter barely containing her ####-eating grin at Moore HQ.

 

[Koya]

It only took 13 months for him to make 1 intelligent, humble tweet. Happy Holidays! Merry Christmas!

That should get him back to normal.