Capella
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2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (2 Viewers)
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The Commish
Footballguy
Who's labeled them such? I sure as hell havent. Though i will say not many schools get as much out of the talent they get as Michigan. Alabama should boat race them.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Just checking in to see how some of us still feel about the incredibly impenetrable super duper ironclad ACC magical GOR that would never be broken or challenged?
Capella
Footballguy
It’s going down like Michigan against a team from the south baby
Tau837
Footballguy
I don't think anyone posted that it wouldn't be challenged. It was posted that it hadn't been to date, nor was the Big 12 GOR ever challenged.
Check back in when FSU defeats the GOR in court.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I wonder what Frank GORe thinks of all this.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I just desperately want to steer this thread back to discussing actual football and not legal maneuvering and TV contracts. Feel like we need separate threads. So, am I poking the bear? I am. Do I think Michigan can beat Alabama? I do not.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
That seems to be the consensus of all the "experts" I see on tv. Plus most of the bettors are taking Bama. Yet the odds seem to be holding steady with Bama still getting points.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The Thursday and Friday games featured four 6-6 teams. Six of the 14 teams playing today are 6-6 going into those games. Four more are 7-5. One of the games on Tuesday features 5-7 Minnesota. A hearty tip o' the cap to any neutrals watching college football this week.
culdeus
Footballguy
You want to watch women's basketball or something?
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
I mean, they have WAY better players...all those four and five stars....better coaches. All of it. Have no idea what the "experts" are saying. Can't remember the last time I watched/listened to sports TV/radio....it's always annoyed me.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I'm just making the point that despite all those advantages that Bama has, they are oddly not the favorite, even with all that money on them.
The Commish
Footballguy
sorry....didn't pick up on that. Several teams have been in the playoff and not won a game so I was sorta puzzled with the comment. Seemed like a pretty arbitrary line of "success" at first. Now i understand your context.
The Commish
Footballguy
It's weird for sure
Capella
Footballguy
Gambling
gump
Footballguy
CFB Nerds and some others have been pointing out for roughly 6 weeks that this Bama team's Jeckyl and Hyde season is influencing models. They picked LSU over Bama, an UGA easy win, etc. I haven't seen a Michigan version yet but I'm pretty sure U-M will be the model's pick. Lots of metrics are either close to even or lean to Michigan. I'm guessing that's impacting bettors/Vegas to date. Will be an interesting line to watch over the next week.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Not the way to handle getting blow out: https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1738930406785798406
3C's
Footballguy
And I'm taking in every last one of them, though since I didn't have time to watch yesterday some of that will be 'key plays' via YouTube TV (the blowout mentioned above for sure). "better" teams are just around the bend.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
gump
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
This seems wrong. Surely there is a golden source for opt outs.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Can't wait for the trophy presentation Thursday. I'm hungry already.
gump
Footballguy
Better executed than I was imagining when I heard the trophy was an edible pop tart.
Jayded
Footballguy
I’m usually one to not pick my own team, but ND has little excuse. Yes, like most teams, we’re missing some key pieces (Hartman, Estime), but the majority of our top 10 defense is playing.
Oregon State has been gashed by the PAC12 fallout and their coach leaving. Even Damien Martinez is now doubtful to play. Yes the Irish start Angeli and have guys like Alt out, but the backup OL looked solid and they still have Love and Price to run back there. I’d bet you see one of the WRs step up, a TE like Raridon shines as well, but Love shows why he was a top recruit as the defense gives them good position most of the day.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
5-7 University of Minnesota is engaged in a tough battle today - currently losing 7-6 after one quarter to Bowling Green (7-5) in the Quick Lane Bowl. The Quick Lane Bowl is the successor to the Little Caesars Pizza Bowl, which historically involved the 8th place team in the Big Ten against the Mid-American champion. Quick Lane has dropped the admissions standards somewhat this year in featuring the last place team from the Big Ten West against the 3rd place team from the MAC East.
Capella
Footballguy
Other than obligation there is no reason to play this game.
I cannot imagine a more unsatisfying conclusion to an amazing season. Sucks.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
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Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Minnesota only got to play because there weren’t enough +.500 teams, even after taking Troy & JMU. It’s hardly the bowl’s fault.
Jayded
Footballguy
Agreed. It’s like 95% of bowl games nowadays between the NFL and transfer portal.
I’m intellectually curious what happens next year. Next year Ohio State is in, FSU is in, LSU is in, etc. Does McCord still transfer? Rodemaker? Do the NFL ready guys on a non top-4 teams stay or do guys like Verse or Wilson or Daniels still opt out?
I really think the transfer window is going to mess with the playoffs or vice versa for a few years as teams and players navigate the schedule. I’m kinda hoping we see more in tact teams for the playoffs, so we get better bowls like we used to, but don’t want to see the players hurt by scheduling anomalies.
GregR
Footballguy
About a third of my old fantasy league went to Texas State. They are saying the stadium ran out of beer in the first quarter. And all the other concessions are out by now too except popcorn and water they said.
Man, someone gotta lose a job over that. I googled it, and NFL teams sell about a half a million dollars of beer per game. Talk about a loss in revenue.
Man, someone gotta lose a job over that. I googled it, and NFL teams sell about a half a million dollars of beer per game. Talk about a loss in revenue.
heckmanm
Footballguy
OMG tell me that's a functioning toaster!
gump
Footballguy
CFB Nerds Rose Bowl video is out....their model has Michigan by 10. But they both pick Bama in a close game.
The Commish
Footballguy
The only way this is close to possible is if the Auburn game Bama shows up and forgets how to stop the run.
The Commish
Footballguy
If the country doesn't learn who Loveland is by the end of this game, they did it wrong IMO.
gump
Footballguy
Different schemes…will be interesting to see how much U-M varies their run game.
The Commish
Footballguy
They likely wont. Corum inside the tackles and Edwards outside/passing. Both backs can do either, but those are their comfort zones.
whoknew
Footballguy
JJ will run enough to keep Alabama's DEs honest.
gump
Footballguy
That’s a key…and WRs making 1-on-1 plays. Two common characteristics of teams beating Bama.
The Commish
Footballguy
JJ would be a wrinkle for sure. Is he healthy?
Mookie Gizzy
Footballguy
To me they coached scared all year. They knew the only team that beat them was Ohio State and the only thing stopping them this year was J.J. getting hurt. They also didn’t want to put anything on tape with Edwards as a receiver. It’s time to empty the playbook
whoknew
Footballguy
I hope so.
General Malaise
Footballguy
You could be playing Liberty....
The Commish
Footballguy
The only time I felt they were "scared" was at the beginning of the PSU game when they realized the ends were going to be a problem. I think they addressed that surprisingly well even if it was labeled boring or whatever. Come to find out, at the beginning of that week, McCarthy could barely walk, so in hindsight, it made sense. I'm relatively confident we haven't seen the full potential of McCarthy either. I guess we'll see.
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