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2021 New York football Giants (2 Viewers)

ain't no complaints here.  like what we've done.  

 I've read they really like Nakobe Dean,  just watching to see if he gets past tonight.   

edit:  gonna be some nice options at 36.    let's go.

 
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If Booth is gone and they want CB, maybe Kyler Gordon from the Washington Huskies.

We have so many needs it's hard to tell which direction we'll go with the 3 picks tonight.  

You can make strong arguments for DL, LB, CB, S, TE, OL, QB, WR in the second round.

 
If Booth is gone and they want CB, maybe Kyler Gordon from the Washington Huskies.

We have so many needs it's hard to tell which direction we'll go with the 3 picks tonight.  

You can make strong arguments for DL, LB, CB, S, TE, OL, QB, WR in the second round.
I agree. I think Malik Willis might really be in play if he is there at 36. Pickens also has to be in play if they go offense. 

I heard that the Giants currently only have 2 safeties on the rosters - If true that has to be a priority 

 
I agree. I think Malik Willis might really be in play if he is there at 36. Pickens also has to be in play if they go offense. 

I heard that the Giants currently only have 2 safeties on the rosters - If true that has to be a priority 
Malik wouldn't surprise me either. would also be in favor of a team in love with Malik trading up to 36 (maybe Seattle) and grab an extra pick while only moving down a few spots.   be another interesting night.    I do think they will grab a TE with one of the 3 picks tonight.  imo, might be the weakest position on the roster as it stands now.

 
If Willis is there, that would be incredibly tempting.  I'd be happy with that pick too.
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Malik Willis was (+1200) to be drafted by the Giants. 

The Giants are now the co-favorite at (+340)

 
Giants selected Kentucky WR Wan'Dale Robinson with the No. 43 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft. 

The pint-sized Robinson (5'8/178) is joining a receiver corps with more targets for the taking than you might assume at first glance. The 21-year-old declared for the draft after his junior season, his only at Kentucky. He began his career at Nebraska as a hybrid RB/WR, logging a 134-580-4 rushing line and a 91-914-3 receiving line in 18 games. He transferred to UK after his sophomore season and operated as an underneath receiver. Robinson recorded just eight carries while posting a 102-1,334-6 receiving line, accounting for 45% of Kentucky's receiving yards. Robinson disappointed at the Combine by measuring just 5-foot-8, 178 pounds, as well as posting ho-hum athleticism with a 4.44 40, a 34.5-inch vertical, and a 118-inch broad jump. He ultimately profiles as a gadgety slot receiver in the mold of Isaiah McKenzie, though the second round draft capital obviously hints at the possibility for more.

- NBCSportsEDGE


ESPN Post-Draft

Analysis Kenny Golladay managed just 521 receiving yards last season, Sterling Shepard hasn't been able to stay healthy, and Kadarius Toney missed seven games during his rookie year, making receiver one of the Giants' most pressing needs. Robinson should make an immediate impact working out of the slot, but the Giants would have been better off taking Georgia's George Pickens or Cincinnati's Alec Pierce. -- Muench
 
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good post.  the comparison to Isaiah McKenzie..he played well in Buffalo under Schoen/Daboll.   i didn't see this pick coming but I like they are drafting guys that they think fit.
I posted in the draft thread... really confusing pick for the Giants. Giants need a CB badly because Bradberry is gone in a few days/weeks. Their issues aren't at WR, it's the guy throwing to them.

It's not a Toney replacement either because you're not trading Toney for anything less than a early 2nd. Don't care if peopel think he was overdrafted by another regime; you need to get close to that value back.

 
I posted in the draft thread... really confusing pick for the Giants. Giants need a CB badly because Bradberry is gone in a few days/weeks. Their issues aren't at WR, it's the guy throwing to them.

It's not a Toney replacement either because you're not trading Toney for anything less than a early 2nd. Don't care if peopel think he was overdrafted by another regime; you need to get close to that value back.
i agree with you he isn't a Toney replacement.   and am a little confused by the pick as well.     

 
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
GM Joe Schoen said they have a "very clear vision" for Wan'Dale Robinson.

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guess we shall see what that means.

 
How many draft picks do we have in this draft now?

I like the trade back but question the player. He is fast but on the small side. I thought if they were to go WR in the 2nd that Pickens or Moore would have been the pick.

Hope he works out though! Go G-Men!

 
How many draft picks do we have in this draft now?

I like the trade back but question the player. He is fast but on the small side. I thought if they were to go WR in the 2nd that Pickens or Moore would have been the pick.

Hope he works out though! Go G-Men!
from what i can tell....

#67

#81

#112

#114

#146

#147

#173

#182

 
did someone they want go before the trade back with the Jets?  maybe Christian Watson?
Maybe 

I'm guessing that Robinson is going to be the slot of the future for the Giants. Shepard is on the last year of his deal I think. I do recall watching Robinson flat out kill Iowa in the bowl game. 

We have 2 picks in the 3rd so it will be interesting who they add

 
Terrible pick in the 2nd ... Looks like they brought gettleman back for a round 

I think Min ####ed the Giants trading up ahead of them to take Booth, Giants panicked and took a useless WR in the 2nd ...  just like last year 

And then the Eagles take the Center that the Giants should have taken ... just like last year 

 
Terrible pick in the 2nd ... Looks like they brought gettleman back for a round 

I think Min ####ed the Giants trading up ahead of them to take Booth, Giants panicked and took a useless WR in the 2nd ...  just like last year 

And then the Eagles take the Center that the Giants should have taken ... just like last year 
Maybe they got too cute with the 2nd trade down

 
Terrible pick in the 2nd ... Looks like they brought gettleman back for a round 

I think Min ####ed the Giants trading up ahead of them to take Booth, Giants panicked and took a useless WR in the 2nd ...  just like last year 

And then the Eagles take the Center that the Giants should have taken ... just like last year 
if they wanted Booth they could have taken him at #38 after the 1st trade down from #36.    

 
Bob McGinn...

10. JOSH EZEUDU, North Carolina (6-4, 313, 5.19, 4): Fourth-year junior. “During the course of the game he plays both left tackle and left guard,” one scout said. “Good long pull ability. Strong lower body. He pass-blocked well at left tackle. He could actually play left tackle. Only negative was his low hand carriage.” After a redshirt season, he made 20 starts at LG, six at LT and two at RT. “He’s pretty good,” said a second scout. “He’s a better athlete than you realize. He can move guys. A guard.” From Lawrenceville, Ga

 
Giants selected North Carolina OL Joshua Ezeudu with the No. 67 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft. 

Ezeudu (6'4/325) started two-and-a-half years for North Carolina, operating at multiple positions and within different run schemes. 2021 was a standout year in which he earned a career-best 77.8 PFF grade. Ezeudu has an NFL-level body, making it very hard to go through him on the bull rush and solid athleticism (8.32 relative athletic score) to go along with that frame. His hands need some refinement, and his pass-blocking skills also need work. He might struggle against experienced NFL edge rushers if left on an island alone at tackle, which is why his best spot is guard, where he will likely end up in New York. If his NFL coaches can refine the hand technique, he can push for a starting job in the NFL.

- NBCSportsEDGE
ESPN
 

Pre-Draft Analysis

Ezeudu is a versatile three-year starter who primarily lined up at left guard and fits best there in the NFL. But he also lined up at both tackle spots and could provide depth there. He has the quickness, foot speed and length to develop into an effective pass-blocker. He needs to improve his punch placement and play with better body control. He has good upside as a zone blocker and covers up linebackers in the run game. -- Steve Muench

Post-Draft Analysis

Ezeudu is a head-scratching pick based on value, but he does fill a potential need for interior offensive line depth and future starters. Ezeudu's versatility and experience at multiple line positions ups his value for the G-Men, but there were five guards ranked higher on my board at this point in the draft. -- Matt Miller
 
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Giants drafted 2 guys that could have been had 2-3 rounds later ... what a buzz kill.

Hard to even give them credit for Day 1 when the 2 studs basically fell into their lap

 
Giants selected LSU CB Cordale Flott with the No. 81 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.  

Flott (6'0"/175) put up decent testing numbers, including a 4.48 40 and a 4.1 shuttle. What brings his RAS score down to 7.46 is those numbers coming at 6-foot-0, 175. He can be a good player if he can get into the gym and gain some strength. He’s long and quick, making him a menace to receivers trying to stretch the field. Coaches will be intrigued by his toughness, while he has a great sense of zone coverage. If the ball comes into his area, there’s a great chance he will break it up or jump in front of it. The biggest concern is bigger receivers frequently bully him, and they can shed his tackle as he sometimes commits too early to wrap up. Ultimately, Flott has a ton of potential if he can bulk up because the skills to play in the league are there.

- NBCSportsEDGE
ESPN
 

Pre-Draft Analysis

Flott is a wiry cover corner with oily hips and good closing burst. He has short arms, and stronger receivers outmuscle him at the top of the stem or the catch point. He has small hands and picked off one pass in three seasons at LSU. He gets stuck on blocks and needs to get stronger, but he's a drag-down tackler who flies around the field and likes to mix it up. -- Steve Muench

Post-Draft Analysis

James Bradberry could be on the trading block after a down year, and Adoree' Jackson missed four games last season. Flott may not be ready to start as a rookie, but he has a high ceiling and fits well in defensive coordinator Wink Martindale's scheme. -- Muench

 
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Wow after having Thibodeaux and Neal fall into their laps on day 1 ... The Giants absolutely Bomb Day 2

Seriously this is hard to defend  ... Even Gettleman would be embarrassed by this 

  • Round 2 (43) Wan'Dale Robinson ... Consensus big board Round 3 (84 ) -41
  • Round 3 (67) Joshua Ezeudu ... Consensus big board Round 5 (177)      -110
  • Round 3 (81) Cordale Flott ... Consensus big board Round 6 (194)          -113
 
Daniel Bellinger, TE, San Diego State at #112

Dane Belton, S, Iowa at #114
This is getting emarrasing ...watching all of these highly rated players go off the board while the Giants are picking 5-6 projections in the 3rd and forth rounds 

Bellinger is the only day 2-3 pick that has a chance of making an impact this year ...

Belton is another throw away pick 6 rd projection ( Average Backup Or Special-Teamer) early 4th rd?

 
Damn, thank God for pick 5 and pick 7. The rest of the selections are questionable to say the least. Hope our experts have some knowledge that the rest of us are unaware of.

 
Damn, thank God for pick 5 and pick 7. The rest of the selections are questionable to say the least. Hope our experts have some knowledge that the rest of us are unaware of.
Yeah the warm and fuzzies of day 1 wore off quick fast and in a hurry 

 
An ILB (Mich Mcfadden, Indiana) and a Nose tackle  (D.J. Davidson, Arizone State) at 146/147.

ESPN is so bad, go to commercial before our picks, come back talk to the jets, commercial, then talk about the players that got picked after our two picks.   

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David Syvertsen
@Ourlads_Sy
#146 / NYG: Micah McFadden - LB/Indiana 

Dependable and smart bruiser with surprising game speed to the sideline. High success rate as a tackler and will reach his points in coverage. Has the ceiling of an elite special teamer + solid starter.

 
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Ourlads depth chart

if we are all being honest this wasn't getting fixed this year.   We haven't drafted well in quite some time.   so many holes. I'm gonna give the new guys a shot to fix this.    takes less energy than complaining.

 
Round 4
 

Giants selected San Diego State TE Daniel Bellinger with the No. 112 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft. 

The G-Men have a thin tight end group after letting Evan Engram depart in free agency. Bellinger (6'5/253) spent four seasons at San Diego State but totaled just 68 receptions for 771 yards and five touchdowns across 29 career appearances. Bellinger was more involved as a receiver as a senior, with a 20% yardage share and 18% touchdown share but still remained an ancillary option. He turned heads at the Combine, however, with a 4.63 40, and a 10-foot-5 broad jump before posting a 35-inch vertical at his Pro Day. Bellinger isn't an off-the-charts athlete, but he does profile as a potential yards-after-catch option on shallow routes in the mold of Jonnu Smith.
ESPN

Pre-Draft Analysis

Bellinger is a big target and natural hands catcher with bigger hands and shorter arms. He has good contact balance and runs hard after the catch. He wasn't much of a big-play threat at the college level, but he ran better than expected at the combine. He has the size-speed combination to make some plays down the seam. Bellinger gets off the ball and works his hands inside and moves his feet as a blocker. -- Steve Muench
Giants selected Iowa S Dane Belton with the No. 114 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

Belton (6'1"/205) finished the 2021 season with 44 total tackles, 12 passes defended, and was voted All-Big Ten first-team. He has great size for a strong safety and also has started at outside linebacker. He’s tough off the initial press and causes the receiver to get off balance consistently hound them to where on quicker plays he can completely take them out of the equation. He excels in the zone where he reads the quarterback well and the offense follows his movement. When he’s assigned to play deep is where you see his weaknesses. He’ll often lose track of his assignment on deep covers and has trouble reading the overall play to where he can’t react in time. He doesn’t have the football IQ and speed to play back as a safety, but his toughness and resilience could get him a job as a backup linebacker.
ESPN

Pre-Draft Analysis

Belton is a versatile defender who lines up over the slot, in the box and deep. He's a playmaker who tracks the ball well and picked off five passes in 2021. Belton has good range and the speed to run with tight ends, backs and most receivers, but he's at his best breaking on passes in underneath coverage. His angles in coverage and run support are inconsistent. -- Steve Muench

 
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Round 5

Giants selected Indiana LB Micah McFadden with the No. 146 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

McFadden (6'1"/240) was second-team All-Big Ten in 2021 and made third-team All-American in 2020. McFadden combines intelligence and physicality, reading plays well to put a stop to runners. His straight line speed is pretty solid, running a 4.63 40-yard dash. His lack of length is a concern, especially when linemen do get up to his level. He tested at a 9.47 relative athletic score, but he does not play at that athletic level. McFadden has limited reps in coverage but proved a formidable pass rusher. McFadden also has the leadership and motor that NFL teams want out of a MIKE. If his NFL coaches can get him to unlock the athleticism his testing shows, combined with all his other gifts could make him a massive steal on Day 3.
ESPN

Pre-Draft Analysis

McFadden is an instinctive inside linebacker with the short-area burst to shoot gaps and knock the ball carrier back on contact between the tackles. He shows excellent awareness in underneath zone. He picked off four passes and had eight passes defended at Indiana. He's an effective hands fighter who is relentless and works half the man rushing the passer. -- Steve Muench
Giants selected Arizona State DL DJ Davidson with the No. 147 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

Davidson (6’5/325) earned second-team All-Pac 12 honors for his efforts in 2021 after totaling 57 tackles and six tackles for a loss. He received the 20th-highest PFF grade for all Pac-12 defenders (76.0), constantly flocking around the ball carrier to make plays. A below-average athlete with a relative athletic score of 4.10, Davidson’s motor on tape suggests he plays above his athletic limitations. Likely best served as a one or two-gap run stopper, Davidson can create problems up the middle whether he’s being blocked one-on-one or facing a double team. In all, he totaled 32 defensive run stops per PFF, which tied for seventh-most amongst all interior defensive linemen. In addition to the 50+ tackles he registered last season, Davidson also had a 51-tackle effort in 2019, totaling 25 run stops following a 2018 season that was cut short by a fractured fibula. Davidson could earn his keep as a run-stuffer at the next level but offers little as a pass rusher.
ESPN

Pre-Draft Analysis

Davidson has the size and upper-body strength to hold his ground and stand up blockers in a phone booth. He flashes the ability to locate the ball and get off blocks in time to make the play. His pads rise, and he gives too much ground to double teams. Davidson lacks the change of direction and closing speed to regularly get to the quarterback. -- Steve Muench
Giants selected North Carolina OG Marcus McKethan with the No. 173 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

McKethan (6'7/335) started 37 games for North Carolina and earned All-ACC honorable mention in 2021. McKethan has the prerequisite size and length to play in the NFL, boasting a 98th-percentile wingspan and 94th-percentile arm length. With McKethan, what you see is very much what you get. His body implies power, and he has that in spades. He often overwhelms defenders through sheer strength, and trying to go through him is a lost cause. When he gets his hands on you properly, the rush is basically over, and his hand technique is solid. On the other hand, moving quickly and fluidly at his size is near impossible, and he struggles to mirror agile defenders. Technique heavy defenders who can twist and stunt around him give him problems, and any tricky fronts that make it harder for him to lock in on one guy exploit his lack of lateral movement. McKethan will always have that rare size and power though, and in the right scheme that minimizes his flaws, he will be an effective blocker.
ESPN

Pre-Draft Analysis

McKethan has the frame and strength to wall off defenders in the run game. He has outstanding length and fights to stay in front of his assignment, but he doesn't have great foot speed. He needs to improve as a hand fighter in pass protection. -- Steve Muench
 
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Round 7

Giants selected Cincinnati LB Darrian Beavers with the No. 182 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

Beavers (6’4/237) was a big, strapping, physical presence in the middle of Luke Fickell’s defense. Beavers is a downhill thumper with enough lateral agility to meet running backs outside the tackles. His lack of speed is apparent in coverage, where he can get torched by a bad assignment. Beavers will help your run defense, but he should either be removed on passing downs or asked to make simple zone drops. Best-case scenario, he develops into a KJ Wright-type.
ESPN

Pre-Draft Analysis

Beavers is quick to diagnose and shoot gaps on inside runs. He has the length and upper-body power to stack and shed. He lacks the closing speed of a sideline-to-sideline run-defender. He's an effective hands fighter who flashes as an edge rusher. He's more effective rushing the passer than he is dropping into coverage, considering he has limited range. -- Steve Muench


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ESPN: New York Giants NFL draft picks 2022: Analysis for every selection

 
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I'm going to post The Athletic stuff in its own window because it's BIG:

(The Athletic) New York Giants NFL Draft picks 2022: Grades, fits and scouting reports for all 11 additions
 

The New York Giants entered the 2022 NFL Draft on April 28 with nine picks over the three-day draft.

The Giants made Oregon edge rusher Kayvon Thibodeaux their top pick at No. 5, continuing a run on defensive players at the top. Thibodeaux, the No. 8 prospect in Dane Brugler’s top 300 rankings, at one point was viewed as a possible No. 1 or 2 pick, but questions about his commitment led to a drop in his stock.

Two picks later, at No. 7, the Giants added Alabama offensive tackle Evan Neal, Brugler’s No. 3 overall prospect. It was a great start to the draft for new GM Joe Schoen, who filled a huge need at tackle. Many predicted the Giants would take Neal — or another tackle, such as NC State’s Ikem Ekwonu or Mississippi State’s Charles Cross — at No. 5.

On Friday, the Giants traded down twice early in the second round before selecting Kentucky wide receiver Wan’Dale Robinson at No. 43. In the third round, they selected North Carolina guard Joshua Ezeudu at No. 67 and LSU cornerback Cor’Dale Flott at No. 81.

The Giants addressed tight end early on Saturday, taking San Diego State’s Daniel Bellinger at No. 112. He was 136th in Brugler’s top 300. Two picks later, at No. 114, they grabbed Iowa safety Dane Belton, Brugler’s 190th-ranked prospect. In the fifth round, they took a pair of defenders with back-to-back picks at Nos. 146 and 147: Indiana linebacker Micah McFadden and Arizona State defensive tackle DJ Davidson.

With their last two picks, the Giants took North Carolina guard Marcus McKethan (fifth round) and Cincinnati linebacker Darrian Beavers (sixth round).

Meet their draft selections:

Round 1

No. 5: Kayvon Thibodeaux, edge, Oregon

How he fits: The Giants were the team most interested in Thibodeaux at the NFL Scouting Combine, and the first four picks gave the franchise a clear runway to grab their favorite edge rusher — and address a major defensive need. Thibodeaux will line up as a pure edge, but his ability to get after the quarterback and drop into coverage will allow the Giants to make the most of his versatility in Wink Martindale’s blitz-heavy defense. Joining Dexter Lawrence, Leonard Williams and Azeez Ojulari, New York will have a formidable and athletic front. — Diante Lee

Dane Brugler’s analysis: Thibodeaux isn’t a fluid mover, and his impact runs hot-and-cold, but he understands how to create leverage as a pass rusher with his length, flexibility and hand strength. He draws comparisons to Jadeveon Clowney with NFL teams and has the talent to develop into a high-end starter if he stays committed.

Dan Duggan’s analysis: Giants draft Kayvon Thibodeaux: New regime bets on edge rusher with high ceiling

Christopher Kamrani’s analysis: What the New York Giants are getting in Oregon edge Kayvon Thibodeaux

Sheil Kapadia’s grade: A

No. 7: Evan Neal, OT, Alabama

How he fits: The top 10 of the draft couldn’t have shaken out any better for the Giants, allowing them to grab a defensive playmaker with a high ceiling (Thibodeaux) and an offensive anchor to play tackle in Evan Neal. Already comfortable as a right tackle, Neal is as pure a pass protector as you’ll find in the class. Knowing that the Giants have had a great deal of struggles protecting their quarterbacks, and coach Brian Daboll’s love for the spread offense, this pick was a no-brainer. Neal needs to grow as a run blocker, but he has a ceiling as a Pro Bowl-level player for years to come, and he’ll be needed to ward off the pass rush talent in the NFC East. — Diante Lee

Dane Brugler’s analysis: Neal lacks elite lateral agility and needs to clean up his leaning, but he is an effective blocker, thanks to his rare mix of size, athleticism and flexibility. He projects as an immediate NFL starter with Pro Bowl potential and multi-position versatility.

Dan Duggan’s analysis: Giants draft Evan Neal: Alabama tackle tasked with anchoring the offensive line

Aaron Suttles’ analysis: What Alabama OT Evan Neal brings to the New York Giants

Sheil Kapadia’s grade: A

Round 2

No. 43: Kentucky WR Wan’Dale Robinson

How he fits: This pick should tell Giants fans all they need to know about Kadarius Toney’s future with the franchise. Robinson is more of an “offensive weapon” than a pure receiver, with Brian Daboll likely molding him into a role between Cole Beasley’s and Isaiah McKenzie’s in Buffalo’s offense last season. Robinson is shifty, but not the most gifted route runner, and his short arms make his catch radius a legitimate concern against tight coverage in the NFL. Expect Robinson to be the target of manufactured offense on screens, RPOs and play-action passes, where it’s easier to get him into space and away from traffic in the middle of the field.

Dane Brugler’s analysis: Robinson is undersized and quicker than fast, but he is a catch-and-go creator with outstanding vision and athleticism in the open field. He has the potential to be a starting NFL slot receiver and return man.

Dan Duggan’s analysis: Giants draft Wan’Dale Robinson: Undersized Kentucky WR has something to prove

Kyle Tucker’s analysis: What the New York Giants get in Kentucky WR Wan’Dale Robinson

Sheil Kapadia’s grade: B-minus

Round 3

No. 67: Joshua Ezeudu, G, North Carolina

How he fits: The conversation comes up much more often for quarterbacks in this kind of system, but I harbor the same kinds of reservations for offensive linemen who come from RPO-heavy schemes, especially if the player never flashes special traits. Phil Longo’s offense gave Ezeudu simple answers to the issues defenses presented most snaps, but I didn’t see enough consistency on pure drop-back passes to swing my opinion. New York needed to add talent of all kinds on the offensive line, though, and Ezeudu can potentially swing around any of the five spots up front — a valuable trait for a rotational type. The best-case scenario for Ezeudu is as a spot starter or plus backup. — Diante Lee

Dan Duggan’s analysis: Ezeudu likely to be a project/backup as a rookie

Dane Brugler’s analysis: Ezeudu is still developing the tricks of the trade to be a more consistent sustain blocker, but he gives defenders a battle with his athleticism and hand strength to wear down his opponent. He has starting upside as an NFL guard who can also fill in at tackle in emergencies.

Sheil Kapadia’s grade: B

No. 81: Cor’Dale Flott, CB, LSU

How he fits: Flott is a ball of clay in a defensive backfield, so I’m not surprised that Wink Martindale sees value in bringing the LSU product into the fold. The only issue: I’m doubtful that Flott can overcome some of the technical deficiencies in his game with only his raw athleticism at the next level, especially for a player without much ball production in his career. If he can’t handle the job in the slot, where he played most of the time at LSU, don’t be surprised if he moves back to safety, where there’s more margin for error.

Dane Brugler’s analysis: Flott has slick hips to turn and run on command with inside-outside versatility, but he trusts his athleticism more than his technique with below-average size and questionable playmaking instincts.

Dan Duggan’s analysis: Versatile Flott should have an immediate role in Giants’ depleted secondary

Sheil Kapadia’s grade: B-minus

Round 4

No. 112: Daniel Bellinger, TE, San Diego State

Dane Brugler’s analysis: Bellinger has unimpressive receiving production and doesn’t always play up to his timed speed, but he has natural ball skills and a detailed approach as a blocker. With his toughness and versatility, he projects as a backup Y tight end with upside.

Dan Duggan’s analysis: The 6-foot-5, 253-pound Bellinger could be plugged in as the blocking tight end to complement the veteran pass-catching tight ends the Giants added in free agency.

No. 114: Dane Belton, S, Iowa

Dane Brugler’s analysis: Belton doesn’t play as explosively as his testing numbers might suggest, but he floats naturally with the instincts and ball skills for underneath zones. He projects best as a down nickel safety in the NFL, although he needs to develop his strength and be more consistent vs. the run to see steady playing time.

Dan Duggan’s analysis: The 6-foot, 205-pound Belton projects as a fit as a safety in big nickel packages. He had five interceptions last season.

Round 5

No. 146: Micah McFadden, LB, Indiana

Dane Brugler’s analysis: McFadden is well-strapped together and one of the better downhill linebackers in this draft class, but his athletic and coverage limitations take excitement away from his pro evaluation. His ability on special teams can help him lock down a backup job.

Dan Duggan’s analysis: Giants needed to add depth at linebacker. Doesn’t sound like McFadden is starting material, at least not initially, but he should be able to contribute on special teams as a rookie.

No. 147: DJ Davidson, DT, Arizona State

Dane Brugler’s analysis: Davidson will never be known for his pass rush prowess, but he has a stout anchor and nose for the ball as a steady-flowing run defender. He will appeal to multiple schemes as a rotational nose.

Dan Duggan’s analysis: Giants are thin on the defensive line and you need to rotate bodies there, so the 327-pounder should be in the mix at nose tackle immediately.

No. 173: Marcus McKethan, G, North Carolina

Dane Brugler’s analysis: McKethan looks straight out of central casting with his frame, length and power, but the key to him locking down an NFL roster spot will be developing his reactive athleticism.

Dan Duggan’s analysis: The Giants clearly were impressed with the North Carolina offensive line. McKethan joins fellow Tar Heel Joshua Ezeudu, who was a third-round pick. The 6-6, 340-pound McKethan adds more depth to the interior of the Giants’ offensive line.

Round 6

No. 182: Darrian Beavers, LB, Cincinnati

Dane Brugler’s analysis: Beavers doesn’t have elite anticipation to mask his average body twitch and range, but he moves well for his size with the instincts and tackling skills suited for in-the-box work. He projects best as an inside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme with some value outside as an edge rusher as well.

Dan Duggan’s analysis: The 6-4, 237-pound Beavers was projected as a third or fourth-round pick by Dane Brugler, so it’s strong value to get him in the sixth round. Beavers played edge rusher, linebacker and safety in college, so he has some versatility. He projects as an inside linebacker in the NFL.
 
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(The Athletic) Five takeaways from Giants’ 2022 NFL Draft: Joe Schoen starts the climb out of a deep hole
 

Joe Schoen was never going to be able to fix all of the problems with the Giants’ roster in one draft. So the new general manager took a measured approach to his first NFL Draft.

The best assets Schoen inherited were a pair of first-round picks, so he needs No. 5 pick Kayvon Thibodeaux and No. 7 pick Evan Neal to have a significant impact. But after that, Schoen focused on filling out a roster riddled with holes.

“We wanted to add depth and competition to the roster, which I think we did,” Schoen said. “Not every guy is going to come in as a starter. It takes time. Guys have to develop — good coaching. Then over time, you’ve got to have depth players and you’ve got to have front-line players. The idea was to get the best that we could.”

The picks

• Kayvon Thibodeaux, OLB, first round, No. 5
• Evan Neal, OT, first round, No. 7
• Wan’Dale Robinson, WR, second round, No. 43
• Joshua Ezeudu, G, third round, No. 67
• Cor’Dale Flott, CB, third round, No. 81
• Daniel Bellinger, TE, fourth round, No. 112
• Dane Belton, safety, fourth round, No. 114
• Micah McFadden, LB, fifth round, No. 146
• D.J. Davidson, DT, fifth round, No. 147
• Marcus McKethan, G, fifth round, No. 173
• Darrian Beavers, LB, sixth round, No. 182

Best pick: Evan Neal

Neal was viewed by many as the top tackle prospect in this class. Getting him at No. 7 after landing Thibodeaux at No. 5 represented a best-case scenario for the Giants.

Right tackle was a glaring need for the Giants that needed to be addressed during the draft. So Neal is a perfect fit because he’s the only one of the top three tackles in this class with experience on the right side. Neal started 12 games at right tackle for Alabama as a sophomore.

The Giants have been trying unsuccessfully to rebuild their offensive line since the core that helped them win two Super Bowls retired a decade ago. With Neal and 2020 first-round pick Andrew Thomas book-ending the line, the Giants could have a pair of long-term foundational pieces.

Biggest surprise: Wan’Dale Robinson

It wasn’t a surprise that the Giants took a wide receiver early in the draft. It was a surprise that the receiver was Robinson, a 5-foot-8, 178-pounder who plays in the slot.

Robinson was a productive playmaker at Kentucky, but he was widely viewed as a third- or fourth-round pick. So it was surprising that the Giants used an early second-round pick to land him after trading back twice.

Coach Brian Daboll and offensive coordinator Mike Kafka have demonstrated the ability to utilize weapons like Robinson who thrive in the open field. But the question is if the Giants needed to use a second-round pick to land an undersized receiver with clear limitations to his game.

Biggest question mark: Cor’Dale Flott

Cornerback was one of the Giants’ biggest needs entering the draft. Any plan to use one of their top-10 selections to fill that hole was ditched when LSU’s Derek Stingley and Cincinnati’s Ahmad Gardner were picked third and fourth, respectively.

The Giants missed out on two other corners — Washington’s Kyler Gordon and Clemson’s Andrew Booth Jr. — after trading back from No. 38 to No. 43 in the second round. The Giants finally addressed the position with the 81st pick in the third round when they took Flott from LSU.

Flott could develop into a versatile piece in the secondary, but he’s primarily a slot corner. The Giants will have a big hole outside when they finally have a resolution on No. 1 corner James Bradberry, who has been on the chopping block for weeks because of his cap hit.

It’s a lot to expect 2021 third-round pick Aaron Robinson to take over outside in a system that’s so demanding of corners. The Giants could sign a cheap veteran off the scrap heap, but this position looks like a major weakness unless Schoen dramatically reverses course and figures out a way to keep Bradberry.

Remaining needs

Schoen traded back twice in the second round to acquire additional picks in the fourth and fifth rounds. That plan was clearly designed to give him as many picks as possible in the middle rounds to fortify a painfully thin roster.

Schoen spread the wealth, addressing most of the thinnest positions on the roster. But Day 3 picks can’t be relied upon, so there are still plenty of holes remaining. The Giants didn’t draft any running backs, so that’s a position that will likely be addressed in undrafted free agency.

The Giants have a bunch of stopgap veterans and/or unproven young players at positions like tight end, center, guard, defensive tackle, inside linebacker, cornerback and safety. The Giants will need some of their young players to develop into solutions at those spots.

Post-draft outlook

The Giants’ roster had a long way to go entering the draft. The hope is that the two picks in the top seven will expedite the rebuild by infusing elite talent on a roster lacking in that department.

Thibodeaux and Neal will be expected to step in as high-impact players from Day 1. If they live up to expectations, it will go a long way toward turning things around.

But the Giants are going to need a lot more than two players to get back to contending. Schoen loaded up on mid-round picks to address the many holes on the roster. If he hit on those picks, the Giants can start the climb out of the hole they’ve been in for a decade.
 
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UDFA Signings:

Giants signed Oklahoma FB Jeremiah Hall. 

Hall (6'2/239) finished his five years in Norman with 68 catches for 757 yards and 12 scores. 334 of those yards and four of those touchdowns came in his final season, enough to earn him first-team All-Big 12 honors. Hall ran a 4.96 40 with a 29-inch vertical at the Combine, but he improved those numbers to 4.83 and 33 inches respectively at his Pro Day. Hall has dependable hands, but he is undersized for a tight end and unlikely to offer much in the passing game. He might settle in as more of a fullback and special teamer at the next level.
Giants signed Florida DL Tyrone Truesdell

Truesdell (6’2/326) transferred to Florida for the 2021 season after spending his first four seasons with Auburn. A former three-star prospect, Truesdell didn’t leave much of a mark at Auburn or Florida, with his best season coming in 2019. That season, Truesdell totaled 31 tackles, five TFLs, and three sacks. Those three sacks would become the only three of his lengthy college career. What Truesdell lacks in height he makes up for in size. Truesdell has the width to take up space and demand double teams, but that doesn’t always translate to on-field production. It’s concerning that after transferring to Florida he saw his fewest snaps since 2018 despite no reported injuries. Truesdell didn’t receive a Combine invite and underwhelmed at his Pro Day. If he can get back to his 2019 form, he may find a spot on an NFL roster.
Giants signed Nebraska TE Austin Allen.

After a quiet start to his career, Allen (6'7/253) emerged in 2021, catching 38 passes for 602 yards and two touchdowns, earning second-team All-Big Ten recognition, and winning the Kwalick–Clark award as the Big Ten tight end of the year. He followed up his breakout by running a 4.83 40 at the Combine with a 34-inch vertical and 10-foot-1 broad jump. Allen is slow-footed and unlikely to ever develop into a sharp route runner, but he is a massive target who has the ball skills to win in contested situations and up the seam. Those skills could earn him touchdown-dependent fantasy value.
Giants signed Kentucky S Yusuf Corker. 

Corker (6’0”/203) had 81 total tackles, a team-high eight pass breakups, was a Lott IMPACT Trophy semi-finalist, and played in the Reese’s Senior Bowl in 2021. His Combine numbers were decent, and he came away with a 6.45 relative athletic score. He is a physical defensive back who loves to be involved in the ending of every play. While he does have the drive to want to get the ball carrier, he sometimes has trouble finishing the play. He consistently takes bad angles to make the tackle and is usually left with a big whiff. The football IQ is there as he reads routes very well and has the hustle you want, but the liabilities in his technical skills, footwork, and tackling are too big at this point to give him a role on defense.
Giants signed Michigan DL Christopher Hinton. 

Hinton (6’4/310) brings NFL bloodlines with him to the next level. His father, Chris Hinton, was a former No. 4 overall pick who appeared in seven Pro Bowls and was twice named a first-team All-Pro as an offensive tackle. Playing on the opposite side of the ball, Hinton is an early declare in this year’s draft class after being named an All-Big Ten honorable mention by coaches and media last season. In his final season with the Wolverines, Hinton totaled 32 tackles, one TFL, and one sack while totaling 20 run stops per PFF. Likely aided by playing with two future first-rounders in Aidan Hutchinson and David Ojabo, Hinton’s play at times looked amplified by the disruption created by others. He shows a good knack for breaking away from blockers but doesn’t offer much as a pass rusher with just two career sacks. As an early declare, Hinton will have time to grow into his role in the NFL but will likely top out as an early-down option.
Giants signed Florida State RB Jashaun Corbin.

After starting his career at Texas A&M, Corbin (5'11/202) played his final two seasons at Florida State, rushing for 1,288 yards and 12 touchdowns on 224 carries and adding a 44-259-1 line through the air in 21 games. After declining to work out at the Combine, Corbin posted a 4.58 40 at his Pro Day with a 34-inch vertical and 9-foot-10 broad jump. Corbin shows good patience as a runner and can make people miss, but his path to playing time in New York will be as a receiving option, which is good because he looked comfortable running a variety of routes and catching the football at Florida State.

 
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I believe that 2nd trade back in the 2nd round was the big mistake of this draft for the Giants.

I think CB was a bigger need than WR and there were 2 good CB (Booth & Gordon) available at 38.

I hope it works out for us but I think they got too cute with the 2nd trade back

 
I believe that 2nd trade back in the 2nd round was the big mistake of this draft for the Giants.

I think CB was a bigger need than WR and there were 2 good CB (Booth & Gordon) available at 38.

I hope it works out for us but I think they got too cute with the 2nd trade back
Agree with this ... That 2nd round turned out to be a disaster 

Missed out on Booth, Gordon, Jurgens , Pickens, Pitre, Brisker, Cook etc 

 

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