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Might be good with anyone new, but I see that as a PR nightmare... you get rid of the legendary Capers and bring in some shlub!? Rex would be a good candidate but who knows if he couldn't swallow his pride and go back to being a DC.sho nuff said:
Hopefully this was trolling... because the only one worthy of a contract is Bennett of that list. McCarthy at this point will be back at least 1 more season. Capers likely too. Thompson has to go. The fact that he was able to stumble upon a good fix at RB for now (Montgomery) is not due to his genius. Without that the Packers aren't looking at a winning season/playoff trip/divisional titleCletiusMaximus said:
I like Moss but I'm not sure. If Capers retires I think it's Moss' job and that makes sense. If Capers is fired I don't think they go internal- if you fire you need to find someone better and proven. Not unproven and potentialy way worse
I would be extremely disappointed if the Packers welcomed that sideshow to town. His press always exceeded his ability and he is an instant distraction, and he would be constantly advocating for the top job sowing dissent and instability. he is an ### clown. He is all mouth and no results. As the Texans say he is all hat and no cattle.sho nuff said:
Tell us how you really feel...
I don't consider myself a sophisticated fan and don't claim to be able to judge how well a coach is performing from my view on the couch, other than just looking at Ws and Ls. The team has had incredible success over the past 10 years, certainly at or near the top of the 32 teams all gunning for the same trophy. My joe-six-pack opinion is that the staff has worked wonders to be in contention once again this year, despite all they've gone through. Filling a gap at RB with a guy wearing #88 and making it work strikes me as a sign of great coaching. I guess I can see how one would view it as failure in terms of preparation, but you have to have a strong personal bias to claim they "stubmled" into this solution rather than giving credit where its due. That's like folks who claim Rodgers "fell into Thompson's lap" rather than crediting him for making one of the most successful draft picks of the decade.
Yes, coaching has resulted in this team making something out of nothing. Thompson failed in preparing this team, so I think he needs to go. I do agree that with the way this season has seemed to end McCarthy and Capers have earned another year...
Thompson isn't going anywhere unless he resigns. McCarthy is either and will get more than one more year.
As a HC I agreeandI wouldn't want the sideshow. As a DC...I thought no he is very good. Similar to WadePhillips
I'm kind of hoping he retires. But nothing has really pointed to that...
I have a feeling the club will tie Thompson, McCarthy and Rodgers together in terms of their sundown in Green Bay. Rodgers' contract runs through 2019, when he'll be 36. The last two years are almost all base salary with a small amount of bonus money. They might bring in a new guy to manage the transition from Rodgers to the next QB, kind of similar to what Thompson and McCarthy had to do, or they'll just cut ties with the whole group when Rodgers' contract ends and start new in 2020. I don't think they're going to fire anyone up there, unless something crazy happens.
I think he will play past 36... Brady is an AARP member and he's still playing. I don't see a reason Rodgers couldn't. What you predict makes sense though.
So..,2010 they won it all...and if its that similar you want the GM and coaches fired
No. I'm saying this started to look like 2010 lately, which yes they won it all then. Every year there is a team that gets hot at the right time and that team is a big threat in the playoffs. The last few years it's been Seattle. This year it looks like Green Bay.
Montgomery emerged in spite of Thompson. Unless you believe Thompson drafted Montgomery with the hope that one day he would transition to RB during a time of desperation and actually do well.
Who drafted the depth at WR affording them the opportunity to put Montgomery back there?
Again, do you believe he drafted Montgomery with the intention to switch him to RB? Afterall, it was Montgomery who suggested and made a convincing case that he switch to RB. I have it on good authority Montgomery was reading the tea leaves and saw this as his best opportunity to get playing time. I don't give a GM credit. If he drafted him as a RB he would have switched him to RB right away.
He's been one of the best GM's in the NFL during his tenure however I do think he's stubborn at times when he doesn't need to be. Just a more frequent dabble in the free agent market could be all it takes to take this team over the top. He lack of RB foresight this year was disturbing as well. All said he's still a great GM but he's also getting older and I wouldn't mind if they started giving Wolf more responsibilities with personnel decisions and letting TT ease into an advisor role. Ted will be 64 soon so I wonder how much longer he's going to want the stress of being the GM.
My problem with McCarthy is I think he is finally recovered from that NFC championship game collapse. I saw the team and his offensive play calling turtle up like I have never seen it before and that hangover seemed to carry over to 2015. Yes Jordy was injured but the offense never seemed to adjust. Constantly sending Cobb on deep routes, fullback dives on short yardage. I kept hearing from NFL people that McCarthy's offense was really basic, predictable and based on the results I agreed.
I agree with this...but have no issue if he stays a few more years. While I'd love to retain Wolf...also no guarantee that he can be what we think either.
He also has gotten away from being conservative late. Take the Bears game...Chicago came back...but the Packers were still throwing and not just tryouts no to run out the clock. Sacks and incomplete passes stopped those drives.
Curious as to why you are a big fan of Eliot Wolf. What has he shown that makes you a big fan? How much influence has he had in the recent drafts that you want TT fired for?
I am familiar with him more than the average fan for a variety of reasons I won't go into. He does well at evaluating talent. One big thing that I appreciate about him is that he is a fan of building through the draft but he understands the importance of sprinkling in some FAs to supplement poor draft picks. This is something Thompson does not do, so when he blows a 1st round DL pick, our DL hurts with a bad player or a street FA until he can fill that with a new draft pick. Eloit Wolf has had very minimal influence on recent drafts. Wolf and Thompson do not see eye to eye. Thompson does not want or take Wolf's advice. The recent draft busts are 100% on Thompson.
This is exactly the problem. I was discussing this with a patient yesterday. We were laughing at how spoiled us Packer fans are. To go from Favre to Rodgers. From Ron Wolf to Ted Thompson.
Some of us older guys (me and DW) are very much aware of how spoiled we are. Living through the years of Forrest Gregg, Starr, Bratz and others - those were brutal years on and off the field. One doesn't soon forget Dan Devine trading two 1sts and 2 2nds for John Hadl. I also think its unfair to say Thompson NEVER trades up and NEVER signs FA's. Charles Woodson and Ryan Picket helped bring us a Lombardi. Cook, Peppers, Guion and a few street guys are all pieces to the puzzle this season. Its not easy filling a roster with Rodgers/Mathews salaries on your books and a big free agent bust can kill a team for more than one season. Finally, I think it shows a strong bias not to credit Thompson for drafting a rookie of the year in the second round. To actually use that as a criticism of Thompson because he didn't draft Lacy earlier? You have to be able to see how silly that is.
I was very happy with the pick at the time. But I couldn't help but feel like GB was trying to NOT draft Lacy. Many of my acquaintances were furious he didn't draft him in the 1st round. I remember specifically saying to them, he will be there in the second. And he was. But then Thomspon traded down out of 55 to 61. As if to say, someone else take this guy so I don't have to. Denver was an obvious potential landing spot, but they took Ball which I thought was odd. When he was there at 61 he kind of had to take him.
That's what's so frustrating about Thompson essentially eschewing free agency. His hit rate when he does dabble is very good. A little more of that would be great without breaking the bank with some monster moves.
I never said that. I said they are currently winning in spite of his poor preparation at RB. I have heard legitimate arguments stating that he drafted Montgomery as a hybrid player, and if that's a fact then I would say okay, great, I never knew that. I am not sure if he ever envisioned him being a bulk carrying guy but that's not a bad thing to have a player out perform your expectation. What I was saying is that without Montgomery they would not be in a playoff race, or even looking at making a run in the playoffs. I have knowledge that it was Montgomery that suggested getting some playing time at RB when they were in desperate need, not the other way around. And if Thompson drafted him as a potential RB then you'd think he'd have a coach or himself approach Montgomery to switch. That's why I hold my opinion. I am paying attention; I'm paying attention to people I know who are close to the situation.Man in the yellow hat said:
No argument on the free agent side. I agree. He's been largely successful when he's done it, and three guys are playing key roles right now in Peppers, Guion, and Cook. It's a bit of a misnomer that he never uses free agency, as other suggest. But I do agree they could add more vets to plug some holes.
Really tough to say. The secondary hasn't been good. The pass rush was better last week with a healthier Matthews and the return of Nick Perry. I don't know. Division games, points are usually tough to come by.
