This seems to be the sentiment in the Giants board, but I'm not as pessimistic as others.The Nassib pick does make me wonder, but I see the logic in the first three rounds moreso than others I suppose. Solidify the line with a guy who seems really underrated and from what I've heard is not nearly the reach some state (2-3 other teams eyeing him in the next ten picks in a draft that admittedly was pretty flat talent wise). A DT in the second who has the size and big upside. Won't be asked to play every down and with our really good offense, we NEED to stop the run to get the defense off the field. Love the third rounder - we worked on stopping the run - free agency for some solid players and the draft for upside and a more forward looking view. Now we have a guy with huge upside that could become another monster pass rusher.Nassib I don't get as much, but all I can say is it's a forward thinking pick. As I stated in the draft thread, it's an insurance policy 2-3 years down the road with some upside. If Eli begins to age and can't play every game, we have a potential answer. Either way, he could show some growth over the coming year or two and at the least garner us a 3rd or even 2nd round pick for a team that likes Nassib and trades for him.In terms of guys we passed on like Greene, especially to move up and nab Nassib, obviously Reese and Co. Saw value in Nassib and weren't as enamoured with the other guys as we are since they obviously could have grabbed them. While I'm concerned about LB and DB, two last thoughts - in our SB winning seasons, we had issues at both of the positions - or at least question marks going in and even during the season. The answer? Great D Line play including and especially the ability to get to the QB. Now add the mobile QBs into the equation, and the Giants may feel that instead of taking a guy at LB or DB that doesn't give them enough of an improvement, stop the run to get the ball back while clogging up the middle. That opens our meh LBs to look a little better an they are and allows the edge rushers to keep to our philosophy of getting to the QB. Counter the running QBs, hit (and possibly injure) those superstar QBs and at the least, make our DBs look a lot better because the QBS are running for their lives, not as much for first downs.I see this as a very Giants draft. Not enamoured with stars nor names nor need but cognizant of need (ie Pugh). We're the talent is flat you take the need. You have the ability to be both patient and also pick guys with some issues that aren't "bad people" because of vet leadership, coughs in and the organization. Now you have upside that is also a need in the 2nd and huge upside that dropped to us in the third. We take a DE in the first or second we don't capitalize in that in the third.Nassib is a patient, long term, investment view and that's how we are going to be a solid organization 5 years from now and not end up like some of the weak franchises (raiders) or recently up and down franchises (bengals) who don't find the balance of building for today and insuring for tomorrow (and this is recognizing that there's a strong likelihood that Nassib won't really pan out and at best could be an ok backup, start a couple games here and there as Eli ages but some upside just in case)Giants trade up and take a QB (Nassib )? Contradicting the "we will take the best player that falls to us" and also not drafting a need position? Barrett Jones goes 3 picks later Khaseem Greene goes 4 picks after that Officially making this the most worst and weirdest Giant draft I can recall. Disappointing to say the least
Yeah, they've clearly spent too much time playing Madden this offseason.Giants watch as top undrafted free agents are signed
Sorry but Giants GM seems unprepared this year
And while you may not agree with the direction, to say that the Giants of all teams are unprepared seems a bit, well - let's just say curious.Yeah, they've clearly spent too much time playing Madden this offseason.Giants watch as top undrafted free agents are signed
Sorry but Giants GM seems unprepared this year
They're UFA's for a reason mostly...
Few teams have shown love and been as successful as the Giants on draft day. Clearly they like Nassib and wanted him.Giants trade up and take a QB (Nassib )? Contradicting the "we will take the best player that falls to us" and also not drafting a need position? Barrett Jones goes 3 picks laterKhaseem Greene goes 4 picks after thatOfficially making this the most worst and weirdest Giant draft I can recall. Disappointing to say the least
Obviously not a Chargers fan.Usually when fans don't like s draft it turns out to be good.
Good. I never liked her writing.Giants beat writer Jenney Vrentas is leaving the Star Ledger this week to work for Sports Illustrated.
I don't think they expect him to crack the starting lineup this yearThis guy guy can't possibly crack the starting oline ...I'd be shocked if he makes the team
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/eric-herman?id=2540249
Well yeh he's a 7th rd. pick but looking at the combine video ... he'd have to put down the hamburgers and beer and get a hell of alot more athletic. The guys a mess!I don't think they expect him to crack the starting lineup this yearThis guy guy can't possibly crack the starting oline ...I'd be shocked if he makes the team
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/eric-herman?id=2540249
I'm guessing he was drafted because they think that they can development into a starter down the road
I agree. If they felt Brown was something special and that he was an essential cog, they would have offered Brown an extension rather than the 1yr tender.Reports are coming in that David Wilson has improved his pass pro. Personally I don't see how Andre Brown impedes this kids breakout season. Stars are lining right up for him. I think we'll see a better version of Ahmad Bradshaw here.
What's the worst that could happen other than having another camp body?Giants to kick the tires on LB Aaron Curry this week
I'm psyched about this ... He may not be what was expected but he has started 39 of 46 games prior to last season when he was injured.Curry signed to a 1 year deal.
Ohm Youngmisuk @NotoriousOHM 1mJerry Reese confirms Aaron Curry signing and says Curry looked good in workout. Says Curry can play SAM and MLB spots.
Hakeem Nicks was a no-show for Giants OTAs Wednesday.
Coach Tom Coughlin was steamed by Nicks' absence from the "voluntary" sessions. "He should be here," Coughlin said after professing ignorance as to why Nicks wasn't present. Recovering from a knee scope, Nicks wouldn't have been a full participant even if he showed. Going into the final year of his rookie contract, Nicks could be looking to avoid further injury, or perhaps signaling that the time to negotiate a new deal is now.
Source: New York Daily News
ESPN's Ed Werder reported on NFL Live Friday that contract talks between the Giants and unsigned restricted free agent Victor Cruz have "stalemated."
"The issue here is that Cruz is one of the dominant slot receivers in football," Werder explained. "But none of the slot receivers in the NFL rank among the top-salaried receivers. It's all outside receivers. So he's put in a situation with his agent Tom Condon, they've gotta convince the Giants that he should make more money than say, Wes Welker." Welker is making $6 million a year in Denver. Cruz is believed to be seeking at least $8 million annually. With Cruz (contract) and Hakeem Nicks (knee, contract?) staying away from OTAs, Rueben Randle is working as the Giants' No. 1 receiver.
The Giants will use TE Bear Pascoe at fullback if Henry Hynoski (knee surgery) isn't ready for Week 1.
Hynoski will be in a race to get ready for the opener after surgery to repair a damaged left MCL and chip fracture. Lead blocker is an underrated position in Giants OC Kevin Gilbride's system, which at times looked dominant in I-formations last year with Hynoski clearing holes for Ahmad Bradshaw. New York finished the season seventh in the NFL in yards-per-carry average.
Source: giants.com
Unsigned restricted free agent Victor Cruz is in talks to star in a reality show.
No, the show is not about his contract. "It is going to be something that is very unique to me and very unique to what I like, and like to do," Cruz said. "We are still fielding some requests, so we will see how it goes — the timing has to be right, and I have got to squeeze in some training before the season starts." We can only imagine how "happy" coach Tom Coughlin will be for his No. 2 receiver if this show comes to fruition. Coughlin is already steamed at Hakeem Nicks.
Source: New York Daily News
Rotoworld update:Rotoworld:
Unsigned restricted free agent Victor Cruz is in talks to star in a reality show.
No, the show is not about his contract. "It is going to be something that is very unique to me and very unique to what I like, and like to do," Cruz said. "We are still fielding some requests, so we will see how it goes — the timing has to be right, and I have got to squeeze in some training before the season starts." We can only imagine how "happy" coach Tom Coughlin will be for his No. 2 receiver if this show comes to fruition. Coughlin is already steamed at Hakeem Nicks.
Source: New York Daily News
Unsigned restricted free agent Victor Cruz has shot down reports he's in talks to star in his own reality show.
And so ends the latest offseason non-story. Just ignore the fact that it was Cruz himself who said a show was being developed. Cruz would have never been able to top Ndamukong Suh's appearance on Celebrity Diving, anyway.
Source: Victor Cruz on Twitter
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League Editor
"NFL Total Access" has launched its "32 in 32" series, breaking down the biggest subplots of every NFL team with training camp nearing. We here at Around The League are offering our own deep thoughts every night. Next up: The New York Giants
1. Contract stalemates dominate headlines in the offseason, and then are forgotten once the games start. Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks aren't under contract for 2014, but does it really matter? Cruz isn't going anywhere. It would be surprising if he entered the season without a new contract. The minute Cruz signs, we'll forget the whole "stalemate" ever happened.
Signing Nicks will be trickier, but that's what next offseason is for. His fluctuating production and injury history make this a prove-it year. The bigger story is if Nicks can fulfill his enormous potential for a passing attack that was too sporadic last season. The Giants boast one of the top receiver duos in the league with a top-10 quarterback in Eli Manning, so their passing game shouldn't be so streaky.
2. Jason Pierre-Paul's back surgery is a very big deal until proven otherwise. His readiness for Week 1 is less important than his ability to go full JPP this season. He was one of the best run defenders in the league last year, but his pass rush productivity somewhat tailed off. He has the ability to carry a defense on his back, but I didn't expect it to be a surgically repaired back so early in his career.
3. With Pierre-Paul hurt, the return of Mathias Kiwanuka to defensive end looms even larger. So does the hoped-for return to form by Justin Tuck and the arrival of rookie Damontre Moore. This defense was once defined by its pass rush, but there are a lot of questions now. Like so many Giants defenses under coordinator Perry Fewell, this group could range anywhere from awful to awesome.
4. Fantasy leaguers who draft running back Andre Brown early are expecting a big role alongside David Wilson. Those owners are a wee bit insane. Brown is a nice role player who's not necessarily a lock to make the Giants. It wouldn't be surprising if a free-agent-to-be-named-later is added to the running back mix.
Follow Gregg Rosenthal on Twitter @greggrosenthal.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Nicks left for Carolina in free agency32 in 32: Hakeem Nicks faces prove-it year on Giants
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League Editor
"NFL Total Access" has launched its "32 in 32" series, breaking down the biggest subplots of every NFL team with training camp nearing. We here at Around The League are offering our own deep thoughts every night. Next up: The New York Giants
1. Contract stalemates dominate headlines in the offseason, and then are forgotten once the games start. Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks aren't under contract for 2014, but does it really matter? Cruz isn't going anywhere. It would be surprising if he entered the season without a new contract. The minute Cruz signs, we'll forget the whole "stalemate" ever happened.
Signing Nicks will be trickier, but that's what next offseason is for. His fluctuating production and injury history make this a prove-it year. The bigger story is if Nicks can fulfill his enormous potential for a passing attack that was too sporadic last season. The Giants boast one of the top receiver duos in the league with a top-10 quarterback in Eli Manning, so their passing game shouldn't be so streaky.
2. Jason Pierre-Paul's back surgery is a very big deal until proven otherwise. His readiness for Week 1 is less important than his ability to go full JPP this season. He was one of the best run defenders in the league last year, but his pass rush productivity somewhat tailed off. He has the ability to carry a defense on his back, but I didn't expect it to be a surgically repaired back so early in his career.
3. With Pierre-Paul hurt, the return of Mathias Kiwanuka to defensive end looms even larger. So does the hoped-for return to form by Justin Tuck and the arrival of rookie Damontre Moore. This defense was once defined by its pass rush, but there are a lot of questions now. Like so many Giants defenses under coordinator Perry Fewell, this group could range anywhere from awful to awesome.
4. Fantasy leaguers who draft running back Andre Brown early are expecting a big role alongside David Wilson. Those owners are a wee bit insane. Brown is a nice role player who's not necessarily a lock to make the Giants. It wouldn't be surprising if a free-agent-to-be-named-later is added to the running back mix.
Follow Gregg Rosenthal on Twitter @greggrosenthal.
The Daily News says it's a "pretty good bet" that Victor Cruz will either have a new contract or sign his RFA tender by June 17.
June 17 is the date that the Giants can reduce his tender offer from $2.879 million to $630,000. Deals often don't get done until deadlines, and this can certainly serve as one. Despite a ton of hand-wringing, Cruz is almost certainly going to be there for the Giants when it counts. The only question is if he'll have a lucrative long-term deal or a one-year contract.
Source: New York Daily News
I believe him. Coughlin is as good as it gets at getting his player's to focus on the job at hand over a long,tough NFL season. I'm not concerned about Nix OR Cruz this year as far as their commitment to the Giants. I'd be more concerned about the health of Nix than his attitude. If he can stay healthy all season alongside Cruz,with a tight end that can actually catch a pass thrown his way,David Wilson won't have to be "great" for the G-Men to have a VERY potent offense,and in today's NFL that makes you a contender.netnalp said:Nicks unsure of future: 'I enjoy being a Giant right now'
By BART HUBBUCH
Last Updated: 4:52 PM, June 19, 2013
Hakeem Nicks revealed Wednesday that he formally apologized to Giants coach Tom Coughlin for breaking his promise to attend voluntary workouts but isn’t sorry he skipped them, with the star receiver citing injury concerns -- not his contract -- for his high-profile absence.
In a lengthy and exclusive sitdown with The Post, Nicks also offered a cloudy outlook on his long-term future with the team beyond the final year of his contract, saying only that he enjoys being a Giant “right now.”
Nicks, who was making a promotional appearance for Procter & Gamble in Herald Square as part of a new marketing deal with the company, was asked if his goal ultimately is to retire a Giant.
“I really can’t speak for my whole career,” Nicks said. “I enjoy being a Giant right now. I’m going to take care of what I can take care of as long as I’m a Giant, but I do understand the business side of football, too.”
Nicks recently caused a stir by sitting out the Giants’ voluntary organized team activities (OTAs) despite promising Coughlin he would attend, prompting speculation that Nicks -- like fellow wideout Victor Cruz -- was unhappy about his contract.
Nicks attended Big Blue’s mandatory mini-camp last week and said his OTAs absence wasn’t due to his contract, and he reiterated that Wednesday while pointing to injury concerns -- he broke his foot during OTAs last year -- instead of money as his primary reason for not showing up to the voluntary workouts.
“At the end of the day, there’s stuff that’s mandatory and there’s things that are not mandatory,” he said. “From my eyes, anytime you can let your body rest [is good]. Football is a physical sport, and it’s a long season, too. Anytime you can let your body rest, I feel like that’s always a blessing.” Coughlin was openly frustrated with Nicks for missing OTAs only because the coach said Nicks had promised to attend.
Nicks confirmed Wednesday that he had indeed made that promise, and further revealed that he met with Coughlin behind closed doors last week to formally apologize. “I told him I would be there, but some things just took place and I had to take care of what I had to take care of,” Nicks told The Post. “As soon as I got back, we sat down and talked and got things squared away. I apologized, and everybody knew where I was coming from.” Nicks said he and Coughlin are now back on the same page.
“Me and Coach Coughlin have a great relationship,” Nicks said. “Like I’ve said, he’s one of the best coaches I’ve been around. I like our relationship, and I don’t think it could ever be soured.”
Ominously, though, Nicks wouldn’t say the same about his relationship with the Giants beyond the five-year, $12.54 million contract he signed as a rookie in 2009 that is about to enter its final season.
“As long as I’m here, I’m going to represent the Giants well,” Nicks said. “I’m just focused on this season.”
bhubbuch@nypost.com
http://m.nypost.com/p/blogs/giantsblog/nicks_unsure_of_future_enjoy_being_JcHeUcoNSL2HtBaY3mWARJ
Cruz expected to sign 5 year deal worth 43 million
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2013/07/deal_for_victor_cruz_reportedly_close_worth_between_8-9_million.html