Very eerie without any voiceover. That and the French movie crew with the firefighters really give the best accounts of the day.anyone watch "102 minutes" documentary on History last night. brought me to tears a couple times. Highly recommend
The most telling scenes are the faces of the firefighters either going to the building or waiting for the call. I think a lot of them knew it was a suicide mission.Probably the best doc about 9/11.
the french one was pretty amazing. two french guys (brothers?), imbedded into a firestation for a brief time just to try to come up with a documentary idea... probably thought the biggest thing they'd get was an apartment fire. IIRC, the firefighters did their best to protect them- made them stay back and away and not let them go up- saved their lives.Very eerie without any voiceover. That and the French movie crew with the firefighters really give the best accounts of the day.
I'd recommend the 102 Minutes book, also.
heart wrenchingThe most telling scenes are the faces of the firefighters either going to the building or waiting for the call. I think a lot of them knew it was a suicide mission.
The French one was on CNN last night. I made my 12 year old son sit and watch part of it with me. When the first tower fell, I heard the air go out of him. I let him stop watching from there. He thought maybe 150 people had died, for whatever reason. The truth was hard for him to comprehend.the french one was pretty amazing. two french guys (brothers?), imbedded into a firestation for a brief time just to try to come up with a documentary idea... probably thought the biggest thing they'd get was an apartment fire. IIRC, the firefighters did their best to protect them- made them stay back and away and not let them go up- saved their lives.
I'll have to look for the 102 minutes one... can't remember if I saw it.
I did see a movie that was a compilation of shorts about 9/11- but foreign made. I had to stop watching- not pro-US POV that just... hurt... and they showed stuff I hadn't seen before... stuff that I feel like had been mostly censored by US news, even alternative news.
Like what?I did see a movie that was a compilation of shorts about 9/11- but foreign made. I had to stop watching- not pro-US POV that just... hurt... and they showed stuff I hadn't seen before... stuff that I feel like had been mostly censored by US news, even alternative news.
WowI had just finished up a contract in Boston and was chilling at home. One of my coworkers was on the flight from Boston that went into the WTC. Her husband and daughter were on a different flight and meeting her in LA. They spent three days in St. Louis waiting for the official word.
I'll have to look that up. Haven't seen that oneanyone watch "102 minutes" documentary on History last night. brought me to tears a couple times. Highly recommend
That's amazing. Hadn't heard thatthis is second hand...
a gb's neighbor was an architect in one of the towers and got stuck in an elevator during all of this, slightly inbetween floors. he and the other person in the elevator got the door partially open, but it was held shut by a cable they couldn't disengage and which didn't allow the door to open enough for them to climb up and squeeze out.
they sat yelling through that door for anybody to help them. a voice replied finally- what can I do for you guys? the architect told the guy that his office was only a flight up and they had tools there- a dremel tool, in particular- that they could use to cut this cable. the voice and the guy disappeared. the architect and stranger sat in that elevator for what must've seemed like hours, wondering... until... a hand reaches through the still open doors and drops the dremel down to them. they used it to cut the cable, open the door and escape the tower. the architect had no idea who the savior was or if he survived.
No easy way of doing it. Their minds can't grasp that type of evil yetjb1020 said:I have a 4 and 6 year old right now too. There is a 11 mile race every 9/11 here that the Fire Dept puts on and they had a big display on the trail near our house. They had tiny little flags in the grass by the fire dept and my 6 yo asked what it was about. My wife and I were caught off guard and jumped in to the conversation. We told him there was a flag put out for everyone that died that day and just gave him a brief description of the events.
Now he points out American flags and asks "who died there?"
I think we fumbled the ball in that conversation....we'll give it another shot next year.
One of my friends at Sandler O'Neil did not make it that day joined by another friend from Carr Futures. A bunch of us still get together a few times a year after a memorial fund was setup to fund scholarships at our local high school. Don't know why I replied to your post except for the Sandler O'Neil connection.Sconch said:Very close...(Sandler O'Neil)
HS friend of mine is in NYC for biz. Decides to go to NYC game on 9/10. Rain out but runs into one of his BFFs from elementary/HS. Just pure coincidence. These guys used to go to Chavez Ravine every month as kids.
They drink..and drink...etc.
"Mike" the NYC guy, calls n late for the first time in his life.
Mike worked in the WTC. Something like 3/4 of his coworkers die in the north tower.
I watch 102 Minutes every year. It is so powerful and really lets you process what is going on in your mind without someone narrating over the footage. I also saw one this year called "Voices from the Towers" that was so sad. People in the towers calling their loved ones and knew they were doomed. Even had transmissions from a fire fighter who got all the way up to the 79th floor in Tower 2 and then it collapsed right after his last transmission. Had another guy who was on the line with 911 pleading with them to send help since he couldn't breath due to the smoke. The call got cut off when the tower collapsed. So sad. At some point I want to get out to NYC for the 9/11 Memorial. We visited the Flight 93 memorial this Summer with our kids as we drove through PA on the way to vacation in VA.flapgreen said:I'll have to look that up. Haven't seen that one
Yeah. Those weirdos with their stupid, silent middle C.Screw the Connecticut people though, am I right?
body parts. what happens when bodies hit pavement. etc. lots and lots of falling bodies.shuke said:Like what?
I lived in the middle of nowhere, Indiana. I remember hearing a few planes that week and being freaked the #### out.One thing I will always remember is having gone to bed really late, and just as I was falling asleep hearing a helicopter. That woke me up in a hurry, and even though I live in the middle of nowhere in Oregon, it creeped me out since there were supposed to be no flights at all. Turns out some rancher around here who was a heli pilot decided he just had to get wherever. I'm sure he crapped his pants when the fighter jets showed up to escort him to the ground, which is exactly what happened.
Only the French could sanctify American exceptionalism. I wept during the denouement of this doc, and I'm not ashamed.That skyline breaks my heart every time I see it.
Every damn time.
I missed it, too. Good thing you had the responders to remind you. Sorry about the rain, there are better days ahead.Didn't remember today. :(
Was riding citibike to work, and was perplexed why there were two fire trucks just sitting in e29th St blocking traffic in front of their fire house. As I rode by, the garage doors were open and every single fire fighter from their house was standing silently in formation inside. Can't believe it took that to remember for me. :(
It's been overcast and rainy all week, so towers of light, which I normally see from my apartment prior to the 11th, were invisible.
EErie is right, I live by O'hare. Dead silent only the occasional fighter jet.Found out about it in 10th grade religion class, beginning of second period. I knew it was a big deal but didn't really grasp the magnitude of it. The rest of the school day went as planned for the most part.
What I remember most was going home after school and meeting up with a friend of mine to play catch with the football in the front yard. It was just like any other September day, still warm, sunny, nice day. But it was dead silent. No cars going by, no planes in the sky. No kids playing in the neighborhood. I just remember it feeling very eerie, very ominous. Not sure why it sticks out in my head, but it does.
Sadly I had to search way back to find and bump it. I had never seen this before or sadly even realized the magnitude of the on water evacuation. CDR Day would later become one of my CO’s and is a great leader. Grab a box of tissue before watchingI was wondering if there would be a 9/11 thread on the first page today. Glad to see that there was.
The one event of my lifetime that brought the sadness and anger in massive amounts.
Maybe because I've done a bunch of 9/11 related events the past few days, but this year seems even more depressing than in the recent past. Really just out of it today.It's been a busy day at work, but I have been thinking about it a lot today. It's still a sore spot for me in that I don't really talk about it.
Hi gb, I always focused on the hero’s and not the #######s that were responsible o maybe that’s what has always kept my views different. Jesus, 20 years in the coast guard this December, feels like we started 11 and cake yesterdayChemical X said:the saddest part of today for me is remembering, for a brief moment, how a hideous tragedy for so many became a great rallying cry for all of us to become americans. i tend to be more philosophical than most and wondered with others how long the coombayah would last. slowly, we all began morphing into ourselves, self absorbed, mysoginistic, just selfish by nature. i don’t know the exact moment we “forgot” that day, but i have not. lost a friend that day, surprisingly and luckily not more. i look at us today, as divided as we’ve ever been as a country and wonder with pure anger and rage how we have allowed ourselves to get to this point.
eta: I will say- in spite of the selifishness at the supermarket- the next 6months to a year, I've never seen the city and it's people become as self-less from everything macro on down to tiny micro acts between people. it was amazing, even if we all knew it was never going to last.
Chemical X said:the saddest part of today for me is remembering, for a brief moment, how a hideous tragedy for so many became a great rallying cry for all of us to become americans. i tend to be more philosophical than most and wondered with others how long the coombayah would last. slowly, we all began morphing into ourselves, self absorbed, mysoginistic, just selfish by nature. i don’t know the exact moment we “forgot” that day, but i have not. lost a friend that day, surprisingly and luckily not more. i look at us today, as divided as we’ve ever been as a country and wonder with pure anger and rage how we have allowed ourselves to get to this point.
I think I’ve said this before, maybe even in this thread, but the hardest part about watching this is the firefighters heading towards the north tower after the south tower had already collapsed. Understandably they appear somber and frightened.boilerdave said:102 Minutes just started on the History Channel
I was missing work, asleep, about to change jobs when my WWII Vet landlord woke me with the news. "---, we've been attacked."I think I’ve said this before, maybe even in this thread, but the hardest part about watching this is the firefighters heading towards the north tower after the south tower had already collapsed. Understandably they appear somber and frightened.
Also, I will never get over that the time between the first crash and the second tower falling was only 102 minutes. Time seemed to have stood still that day as we tried to get news updates. I swear it seemed like 4 hours.
Sad bump.ok- couldn't find the last few times we've done this... I'm sure I've forgotten a ton.
I've lived in NYC since the mid 80s- was living uptown, right on the hudson (96th and riverside drive) when this happened. I did consulting/free-lance and my own work back then, so my days were my own- no timetables or office to report to.
I was awakened at some point that morning by sirens- lots of sirens. I was up high and overlooking the river and west side hway, so not in the thick of typical NYC sounds. but sirens have always been omnipresent here, so you kind of tune them out... even a lot sirens like there were. I remember putting a pillow over my head to try muffle the sound, but then gave up... too many of them. I figured there was a bad car crash on the highway, and started my typical morning routine- go for a run. I opened a window, looked out over the Hudson towards NJ to a perfect, crisp and cloudless blue sky- honestly one of the nicest days (for weather) I can ever remember. in that moment, my only consideration was whether I'd wear a tank-top or a t-shirt for my run- the weather felt absolutely perfect and I was heavily considering each option... it was a very important decision.
as NYCers do before heading out, I turned on our 24hr local TV news station, NY1 to get the weather. that, of course, is when I realized what was going on.
like the rest of the world- I watched this all transpire on the tv. I remember calling my parents to let them know I was ok (I didn't have anything to do with the wtc, but felt I'd put their minds at rest regardless)... of course waking them up before it was even 6am their time (CA)- to "why are you calling?". they didn't know. I also called a couple of friends who worked in SF but commuted from marin and east bay- I wanted them to avoid the bridges, especially the golden gate.
I was on the phone with my bf's wife when the first tower fell- not realizing it, I collapsed too- absolutely bawling. I could hear the concern on her voice at my out of control crying- she hadn't turned on the tv yet.
I somehow got a hold of my gf (now wife) who lived in stuy-town (east and downtown, but not immediately near the towers). we talked briefly and planned to call each other back later- but without the towers, their was no cell service.
I decided to fill up my bathtub with water in case "they" went after the water system or reservoirs, and then went to the bank for cash and store for basics. the store- typical supermarket- was insane. it was like just before a hurricane with ALL the staples gone, people grabbing everything they could and throwing it shopping carts (at the time I remember feeling sad at how selfish everyone was acting). bank had a line of people taking out larger than normal bundles of cash.
it was at the bank- on broadway- that I noticed masses of people walking uptown... IIRC, even on the street. again, the weather was just perfect that day- and from where I was about 5 miles due north of the wtc, I couldn't see a single affect what had happened. all of the smoke was getting pushed south and east over brooklyn, so it stayed a perfectly blue, clear sky all day... the only sense that something was up was the migration of workers walking home (and even though nycers walk a lot, they don't commute that way) and the run on the bank and market.
just a crazy, horrible day.
an aside- a very gb used to live about 15-20 blocks north of the wtc on barrow st. we used to always joke about whether- if they fell- the towers would reach his place. when I was on the phone with my friend's wife, I had that thought in my mind as I watched the tower fall... thinking about how many city blocks full- entire neighborhoods- of apartments, stores, office, etc those towers were going to take out as they fell. I thought there were going to be 10s of thousands lost in those seconds. it was astonishing to see later how they pancaked down, leaving even some spots right across the street relatively damage-free.
eta: I will say- in spite of the selifishness at the supermarket- the next 6months to a year, I've never seen the city and it's people become as self-less from everything macro on down to tiny micro acts between people. it was amazing, even if we all knew it was never going to last.