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2024 Philadelphia Eagles - 30 years ago, from the makers of V.I. Warshawski (37 Viewers)
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
It’s telling that every QB from that draft has basically been traded or never got off the bench.Yep and both of you could be correct. Maybe Pickett’s ceiling is a quality back up who’s capable of holding down the fort for a few games if the starter misses time.
I won’t pretend to have paid attention to anything Pittsburgh did or their OC. I think it’s pretty well documented that both sucked. Guys like Goff, Mayfield, Gino Smith etc all sucked too. Maybe Pickett looks awful or maybe he lives up to some potential. Time will tell
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports Pittsburgh will receive a third-round pick (No. 98) and two 2025 seventh-round picks.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
He is definitely worse than Minshew.Pickett is no more awful than Minshew or Mariota but 1/3 the salary at the cost of moving down 22 spots in the 3rd round
Terpman22
Footballguy
Part of that report is the Steelers are sending pick 120 back. Weird how you intentionally left that part out.
On a different note, what kind of comp pick do you hope the Giants get for letting Saquon walk without a contract to sign with your favorite rival, the Eagles?
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Yeah, he shoulda went to Temple instead of Pitt. I'm not gonna knock him though, it was a smart move. Going to school in Pittsburgh probably helped him get a higher GPA.
Deamon
Footballguy
He's the biggest troll here.
Deamon
Footballguy
Eagles sign Kellen Moore: Cowboys fans rush in here saying how awful he was/is and that it was a bad move.
Eagles sign Saquon Barkley: Giants fans rush in here saying how awful he was/is and that it was a bad move.
Eagles sign Devin White: Bucs fans rush in here saying how awful he was/is and that it was a bad move.
Eagles get Kenny Pickett: Steelers fans rush in here saying how awful he was/is and that it was a bad move.
It's wild lol.
Eagles sign Saquon Barkley: Giants fans rush in here saying how awful he was/is and that it was a bad move.
Eagles sign Devin White: Bucs fans rush in here saying how awful he was/is and that it was a bad move.
Eagles get Kenny Pickett: Steelers fans rush in here saying how awful he was/is and that it was a bad move.
It's wild lol.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
It reminds me of eagles fans when CJGJ left. But you dont mention that
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I don't understand how this Kenny Pickett trade is bad for the Eagles. At the very worst you got one of the better back up QBs in the league by moving down 20ish spots and two 7th round picks. There is a chance Pickett develops and gets some game action, performs well and the Eagles flip him or get a comp pick back.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
As dumb as it is almost all fans are this way. Lion fans loved CJGJ last year, then picked off Mayfield in the playoffs and it was great, then they collapsed again the 49ers and it was get this trash talking piece of crap out of here.
renesauz
IBL Representative
this. NOBODY would be excited or happy about signing Pickett to compete to start. But at that price as a #2? Great move. He's got enough experience to understand whats what, and still has at least some upside. Worst case he's an average to above average backup who comes dirt cheap. If he weren't a starter in the recent past for another franchise he wouldn't even have garnered 6 posts in here, let alone dominated 2 pages
Deamon
Footballguy
I don't mention that because you made it up. Went and looked and there wasn't a single post in the Lions thread by Eagles fans about them signing CJGJ.
Nice attempt though? Actually it was pretty horrible.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I remember a few fans that said good riddance when CJGJ signed with the Lions. I don't remember who though.
Deamon
Footballguy
Correct. My post was about opposing fans coming to another team's thread to immediately bash their former player.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
There was a not insignificant section of eagles fans that were pissed when Howie let him walk. Just an fyi.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Same goes for the not insignificant section of eagles fans here that were not pissed about it.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I guess I could’ve pointed this out before, but the eagles thread on this free public message board is not just for eagles fans opinions. FYI
Sorry others hurt your feelings occasionally
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Here's our thread from last year:
2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end.
Man a trade back to get additional assets and then grab Lukas Van Ness or one one the top 3 CBs would be ideal to me
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CJGJ signed and the discussion begins on pg. 13. The sentiment was that people wanted him back and were not happy he left, but resigned to the fact that we couldn't bring everyone back.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
So why didn’t the eagles just trade for fields?
jon007
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Snotbubbles
Footballguy
My guess for multiple reasons:
1. Cap hit for Fields is higher
2. Fields only signed for next season
JetMaxx
Footballguy
You’re trying way too hardSame goes for the not insignificant section of eagles fans here that were not pissed about it.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Bears could have lowered the price once the Eagles were out of the market too. No one knows.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Because he sucks and Pickett has two years of eligibility vs 1 and Fields wants to start. He’ll be starting by end of season In Pitt
DJackson10
Footballguy
And he wants to start and probably will at some point in near future
DJackson10
Footballguy
Russini
Former 49ers LB Oren Burks is signing a 1-year deal with the Philadelphia Eagles worth up to $2.5M, per source. Burks is a special teams standout who started 5 games in 2023 for SF.
Former 49ers LB Oren Burks is signing a 1-year deal with the Philadelphia Eagles worth up to $2.5M, per source. Burks is a special teams standout who started 5 games in 2023 for SF.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Deamon
Footballguy
He will ignore this because... boo eagles.
Here's our thread from last year:
2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end.
Man a trade back to get additional assets and then grab Lukas Van Ness or one one the top 3 CBs would be ideal to me
CJGJ signed and the discussion begins on pg. 13. The sentiment was that people wanted him back and were not happy he left, but resigned to the fact that we couldn't bring everyone back.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Do you honestly believe that Pickett/Trubisky/Rudolph is superior to Wilson/Fields?
The Steelers dramatically improved at QB and it came at a bargain basement price, they moved up 20 spots to turn a 4th round pick into a 3rd in 2024 and acquired two 7th round picks in 2025.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
If you don’t think Rudolph played better than Pickett I don’t know what to say.He makes good decisions with the ball and has pretty good mobility (though he needs to slide, he's not Hurts) he doesn't have a strong arm and is too quick to check down (though a better OL might change that, his best games were the ones he attacked downfield) he also had his best game the week after Canada was fired, only to get hurt the next game.I've done a week-to-week deep dive on Kenny Pickett this offseason, and I came away thinking some team should absolutely trade for him, as soon as Wilson was signed. Of course it'd be Philly. Awesome move, he's super underrated and a lot better than his numbers. Matt Canada made Luke Getsy look like Bill Walsh as a play caller. I came away thinking the Steelers were downgrading to Russ, and I don't hate Russ. Kellen Moore might be just the OC for Pickett's game.We just traded for Kenny Pickett!? Lol what?
Awesome move. Pickett will be a top-of-the-line backup, with lots of upside if forced into action. I also like McKee as a prospect, Philly might have the best overall QB room in the league.
Really? I have never seen anything about him I liked. Talk me into it
I'm not saying the Steelers just traded some Franchise guy, but I came away thinking the playcalling was worse than the QB play. I highly doubt the Steelers would have gotten a wildcard if they hadn't fired Canada, and I don't think Rudolph played better than Pickett did, I think he had better playcalling, and an easy schedule facing 2 non-playoff teams, and the Ravens backups, and I think Rudolph is decent too.
Pickett played some good games against the Ravens, Rams and Raiders early in the season, and made some big throws in all of those games. He was awful against the 49ers and Browns, but so were a lot of QBs last year. I think he's an upgrade from Mariota at the very least, and I think its reasonable to call him an upgrade from 2022 Minshew as well, who was turnover prone in his Eagles starts.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Ok I don’t recall it being that many folks but if anyone knows Eagles fans it’s you.Same goes for the not insignificant section of eagles fans here that were not pissed about it.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
He will ignore this cause... boo eagles.
Here's our thread from last year:
2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end.
Man a trade back to get additional assets and then grab Lukas Van Ness or one one the top 3 CBs would be ideal to me
CJGJ signed and the discussion begins on pg. 13. The sentiment was that people wanted him back and were not happy he left, but resigned to the fact that we couldn't bring everyone back.
Didn't I just compliment the Eagles move for Pickett?
Deamon
Footballguy
Yep, wasn't referring to you haahaHe will ignore this cause... boo eagles.
Here's our thread from last year:
2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end.
Man a trade back to get additional assets and then grab Lukas Van Ness or one one the top 3 CBs would be ideal to me
CJGJ signed and the discussion begins on pg. 13. The sentiment was that people wanted him back and were not happy he left, but resigned to the fact that we couldn't bring everyone back.
Didn't I just compliment the Eagles move for Pickett?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Yep, wasn't referring to you haahaHe will ignore this cause... boo eagles.
Here's our thread from last year:
2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end.
Man a trade back to get additional assets and then grab Lukas Van Ness or one one the top 3 CBs would be ideal to me
CJGJ signed and the discussion begins on pg. 13. The sentiment was that people wanted him back and were not happy he left, but resigned to the fact that we couldn't bring everyone back.
Didn't I just compliment the Eagles move for Pickett?
My bad.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I like Fields, but there is something seriously wrong with Russell Wilson. I get "bad teammate" vibes from him, like guys in the locker room won't like him. Guys like that, you're better off keeping away from your team.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
If you don’t think Rudolph played better than Pickett I don’t know what to say.He makes good decisions with the ball and has pretty good mobility (though he needs to slide, he's not Hurts) he doesn't have a strong arm and is too quick to check down (though a better OL might change that, his best games were the ones he attacked downfield) he also had his best game the week after Canada was fired, only to get hurt the next game.I've done a week-to-week deep dive on Kenny Pickett this offseason, and I came away thinking some team should absolutely trade for him, as soon as Wilson was signed. Of course it'd be Philly. Awesome move, he's super underrated and a lot better than his numbers. Matt Canada made Luke Getsy look like Bill Walsh as a play caller. I came away thinking the Steelers were downgrading to Russ, and I don't hate Russ. Kellen Moore might be just the OC for Pickett's game.We just traded for Kenny Pickett!? Lol what?
Awesome move. Pickett will be a top-of-the-line backup, with lots of upside if forced into action. I also like McKee as a prospect, Philly might have the best overall QB room in the league.
Really? I have never seen anything about him I liked. Talk me into it
I'm not saying the Steelers just traded some Franchise guy, but I came away thinking the playcalling was worse than the QB play. I highly doubt the Steelers would have gotten a wildcard if they hadn't fired Canada, and I don't think Rudolph played better than Pickett did, I think he had better playcalling, and an easy schedule facing 2 non-playoff teams, and the Ravens backups, and I think Rudolph is decent too.
Pickett played some good games against the Ravens, Rams and Raiders early in the season, and made some big throws in all of those games. He was awful against the 49ers and Browns, but so were a lot of QBs last year. I think he's an upgrade from Mariota at the very least, and I think its reasonable to call him an upgrade from 2022 Minshew as well, who was turnover prone in his Eagles starts.
Isn't that a tough comparison to make since most of Pickett's body of work was with Canada as the OC. If you don't think the OC matters, just look at the difference of the Eagles offense going from Steichen to Johnson. The Eagles scored 40 less points and had 600 less yards with virtually the same personnel.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Fair point
If Pickett is good enough to go 2-2 in the middle of the season if Jalen Hurts goes down.....that's good enough for me. Nick Foles aside....I don't think there's many backup QBs that are coming in and taking their team to the playoffs. If Hurts goes down; the season is over.
That being said, with how cheap Justin Fields was moved for...is the Pickett signing an indicator of the O that Moore would like to run? In past years, Hurts and Fields were comprable in their skillset and it would have made sense that, if Hurts was to go down, you'd want his backup to be able to run a good portion of the playbook. With them prioritizing Pickett instead of Fields (and I don't know if they were in on Fields.....but I have to believe they could have gotten him if they wanted) I'd image their playbook is going to be not quite what we'd expect from a Jalen Hurts led offense.
That being said, with how cheap Justin Fields was moved for...is the Pickett signing an indicator of the O that Moore would like to run? In past years, Hurts and Fields were comprable in their skillset and it would have made sense that, if Hurts was to go down, you'd want his backup to be able to run a good portion of the playbook. With them prioritizing Pickett instead of Fields (and I don't know if they were in on Fields.....but I have to believe they could have gotten him if they wanted) I'd image their playbook is going to be not quite what we'd expect from a Jalen Hurts led offense.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
You have to watch him. The play calling was bad, but he just is not good.If you don’t think Rudolph played better than Pickett I don’t know what to say.He makes good decisions with the ball and has pretty good mobility (though he needs to slide, he's not Hurts) he doesn't have a strong arm and is too quick to check down (though a better OL might change that, his best games were the ones he attacked downfield) he also had his best game the week after Canada was fired, only to get hurt the next game.I've done a week-to-week deep dive on Kenny Pickett this offseason, and I came away thinking some team should absolutely trade for him, as soon as Wilson was signed. Of course it'd be Philly. Awesome move, he's super underrated and a lot better than his numbers. Matt Canada made Luke Getsy look like Bill Walsh as a play caller. I came away thinking the Steelers were downgrading to Russ, and I don't hate Russ. Kellen Moore might be just the OC for Pickett's game.We just traded for Kenny Pickett!? Lol what?
Awesome move. Pickett will be a top-of-the-line backup, with lots of upside if forced into action. I also like McKee as a prospect, Philly might have the best overall QB room in the league.
Really? I have never seen anything about him I liked. Talk me into it
I'm not saying the Steelers just traded some Franchise guy, but I came away thinking the playcalling was worse than the QB play. I highly doubt the Steelers would have gotten a wildcard if they hadn't fired Canada, and I don't think Rudolph played better than Pickett did, I think he had better playcalling, and an easy schedule facing 2 non-playoff teams, and the Ravens backups, and I think Rudolph is decent too.
Pickett played some good games against the Ravens, Rams and Raiders early in the season, and made some big throws in all of those games. He was awful against the 49ers and Browns, but so were a lot of QBs last year. I think he's an upgrade from Mariota at the very least, and I think its reasonable to call him an upgrade from 2022 Minshew as well, who was turnover prone in his Eagles starts.
Isn't that a tough comparison to make since most of Pickett's body of work was with Canada as the OC. If you don't think the OC matters, just look at the difference of the Eagles offense going from Steichen to Johnson. The Eagles scored 40 less points and had 600 less yards with virtually the same personnel.
need2know
Footballguy
I think fields is also not good so I don't mind not getting him. It's all about the money. Pickett will be cheaper over the next 2 years. Which is most likely the major reason we got him. I'm betting both will be out of the league in 3 years or so.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
No chance, guys like Blaine Gabbert, Josh Johnson,Chad Henne, and Brian Hoyer had long careers as back ups. I would bet everything I own they are both still in the league in 3 years unless they have a career ending injury.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
You have to watch him. The play calling was bad, but he just is not good.If you don’t think Rudolph played better than Pickett I don’t know what to say.He makes good decisions with the ball and has pretty good mobility (though he needs to slide, he's not Hurts) he doesn't have a strong arm and is too quick to check down (though a better OL might change that, his best games were the ones he attacked downfield) he also had his best game the week after Canada was fired, only to get hurt the next game.I've done a week-to-week deep dive on Kenny Pickett this offseason, and I came away thinking some team should absolutely trade for him, as soon as Wilson was signed. Of course it'd be Philly. Awesome move, he's super underrated and a lot better than his numbers. Matt Canada made Luke Getsy look like Bill Walsh as a play caller. I came away thinking the Steelers were downgrading to Russ, and I don't hate Russ. Kellen Moore might be just the OC for Pickett's game.We just traded for Kenny Pickett!? Lol what?
Awesome move. Pickett will be a top-of-the-line backup, with lots of upside if forced into action. I also like McKee as a prospect, Philly might have the best overall QB room in the league.
Really? I have never seen anything about him I liked. Talk me into it
I'm not saying the Steelers just traded some Franchise guy, but I came away thinking the playcalling was worse than the QB play. I highly doubt the Steelers would have gotten a wildcard if they hadn't fired Canada, and I don't think Rudolph played better than Pickett did, I think he had better playcalling, and an easy schedule facing 2 non-playoff teams, and the Ravens backups, and I think Rudolph is decent too.
Pickett played some good games against the Ravens, Rams and Raiders early in the season, and made some big throws in all of those games. He was awful against the 49ers and Browns, but so were a lot of QBs last year. I think he's an upgrade from Mariota at the very least, and I think its reasonable to call him an upgrade from 2022 Minshew as well, who was turnover prone in his Eagles starts.
Isn't that a tough comparison to make since most of Pickett's body of work was with Canada as the OC. If you don't think the OC matters, just look at the difference of the Eagles offense going from Steichen to Johnson. The Eagles scored 40 less points and had 600 less yards with virtually the same personnel.
In Howie we trust.
DJackson10
Footballguy
When it comes to overall lockerroom yeah I do. Wilson is a fraud person. Nice on cameras but a douchbag and bad teammate behind the scenes. If I were a team rehabbing Fields Russ would be one of my last choices to mentor. Fields is a good athlete terrible QB. Steelers aren’t going anywhere anyway. I’m not the biggest Hurts fan in the world and Russ rumors were swirling here from Sea I wanted zero part of Wilson then or now and you can ask anyone if this thread that and they’ll tell you how true that is.
Matt Canada should be sentenced to death by the football gods for offensive malpractices in Pitt. Steelers didn’t do picket any favors. Rudolph Pickett Trubisky isn’t the end of the world team really isn’t competing anyway. If you wanted to get rid of Pickett fine by Rudolph trubisky as a bridge isn’t terrible. The rumors after Pickett left talking to my sources I known and reading between the lines it sounds like a lot of CYA PR ******** by Pitt. Trying not to take any accountability on lack of success by Pickett.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I talked to a few people on why Pickett wanted out. Russ sent Pickett a text about let’s work together but it was in a condenscendinf douchy way oh oh btw you’re riding the bench. This PO’d Pickett because:
1 some new guy is coming to your team who just got cut elsewhere for being a bad teammate and is on a soap box hypocrisy
2 KP was told there was competition and no clear choice. His agent and him went to Pitt with who said yeah Russ is our starter. So Pitt lied to him.
But yeah Russ has always been a fake. Front of cameras he’s that super nice guy media loves and people think is great. The people I talk to around Russ, associated former teammates coaches etc all sai he’s a Dbag and he’s a fake.
I’ll put it this way in terms eagles fans can understand. The stuff I heard about Russ makes all the Wentz stuff that happened here look like Childs play. He didn’t want to play ball with Payton in Den and Sean has no issue paying him that $35m to go play somewhere else. What does that really tell ya about this guy, a coach was willing to do that and team owner signed off on it? Not good look for Russ.
DJackson10
Footballguy
The whole back up should be similar to the starter playing style is one of the biggest myths in the nfl. Multiple coaches and scouts I’ve talked to over the yrs laugh when I’ve brought it up. Even players think it’s crazy.
It’s more of a luxury type thing than a huge need.
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