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Who cares what the fans say. If the Niners players are looking past the Panthers to the Hawks they will get spanked in Carolina.I just have a hard time understanding why you guys continue to talk about the Seahawks, when you are playing the Panthers.
Anyway, going forward I will respect you guys and stay out of your thread.
The conversation started on a throwaway comment on the rooting interest of a game that doesn't involve the Niners. So not sure what that would have to do with anything.I just have a hard time understanding why you guys continue to talk about the Seahawks, when you are playing the Panthers.
Anyway, going forward I will respect you guys and stay out of your thread.
Pretty sure fans are hoping for one last home game at the stickI just have a hard time understanding why you guys continue to talk about the Seahawks, when you are playing the Panthers.
Anyway, going forward I will respect you guys and stay out of your thread.
Meh, FO always ranks the 49er o-line low. For ####'s sake, how much more can they invest in it? I don't buy into FO much. Gore still cranks out good seasons with his legs behind it, and he's the only good active RB they have.
I thought it was officiated the way games should be. The muggings went both ways. It was a physical game in the cold. Ticky tack calls would had kept them both out there for an hour longer.
I hear ya, but I must've said, "Wow! Crabtree has some incredible hands!" on at least three separate occasions yesterday. He had a couple nice moves too.
No doubt...it was just the 'greatest catcher of all time' comment that made me laugh
since last yr hes been amazing, at least it feels like it
Getting a massive QB upgrade is generally a good thing for a team.
Thing is the massive upgrade didn't look good in that spot. At all.
Really? Down by 8 in the fourth quarter he drove the team 76 yards for a TD, accounting for 50 of those yards including a 15-yard TD run. Two-point conversion failed. Then down by five, he drove the team 75 yards, accounting for 32 of those. So prior to the the goal-line stand, in the fourth quarter he was 2-3 passing for 56 yards (on two throws Smith wouldn't have made), with 26 yards rushing and a TD.
Drummer, you have to admit that the o line played a lot better in its rematch with Carolina than in the first game and it showed in the results.
He was up and down that entire game. This was discussed ad nauseam at the time, and I'm pretty sure you were there to add your two cents. What more is there to say? Kaepernick is still a player that has wild swings in consistency an accuracy. Alex Smith, while nowhere near the athlete, was much more consistent. That may be an upgrade, but deeming it massive is a bit generous.
Smith is consistently mediocre. He could be the #16-18 QB in the league for as long as you need him to be.
He is consistently average, but rarely horrid and sometimes looks like he did in the playoffs; which is to say sterling. Imagine having that going into Seattle, where not making errors is more of a premium than just about anywhere else.
Smith nearly lost the Seattle game early last year in SF singlehandedly, if you'll recall. And he was completely useless in the 2011 title game against another good D. Kaepernick's slightly higher rate of bone headed plays is more than offset by his play making ability.
Without Smith's fumble, and severely boneheaded intentional grounding penalty on second down when already in long field goal range, Indy wouldn't have made its comeback last week.
I don't recall Moss making much of an effort for that pass, but I'll take your word for it. I do recall Harbaugh trying to get cute on that drive with an obvious keeper when he brought in Kaepernick. I think it was the same drive at least.
How is Kaepernick more mistake-prone? He had one more INT than Smith this year, and one less fumble. And the same number of sacks. And 1.3 more yards per pass attempt.
This is probably the case, but is it also possible that Kaepernick's passes are just generally more difficult to intercept? They are coming from a different arm angle and at a higher speed than most defensive backs are probably used to. Just a thought - anecdotally it seems like Kaepernick has had an inordinate number of dropped picks. A team like Seattle that has seen him a ton probably wouldn't have this problem anyway, even if my theory isn't completely ludicrous.
He has, but Seattle's D had a case of the dropsies last week. Maybe the elements come into play and he get's lucky again.
What are you talking about?Neofight said:
Plenty of QB's have fared better in Seattle than Kaepernick. What is there to be unsure of?.
The fact that you already consider Kaepernick to be an upgrade (not matter how slight) over Smith, who has 7 YEARS of starting experience over him, MAKES IT a massive upgrade. Unless of course you think Kaepernick is going to regress as a passer and Smith suddenly channels his inner Aaron Rodgers.Neofight said:
This makes little sense. He still needs to progress but, sure, lump in the picks.
Was Crabs in the first game? Davis through the whole game in the playoffs? Is the team healthier despite not having Bruce Miller? Has Miller hurt the passing game while not being there?
Perhaps if I remove the names from the equation...
Not sure you addressed the issue. Sure there are other factors, but the O-line was getting owned in the first meeting w carolina. I mean it's obvious that Crab has been a huge boost to the offense, but the O-line is starting to open some holes in the running game (particularly in the 2nd half against Carolina)
Why address one or two games opposed to the multiple games of 30+ points scored with hardly any weapons most of the season on offense? The defense played a few sub par games that they lost in too. Both sides of the trenches are one of the best two 1-2 punches in the game that more than compliment each other. Hell, Kendall "Minus Yardage" Hunter rushed for 358 yards this season, and the only way that happens is when the o-line blows open a hole big enough for he to run through. Does the o-line suck because Hunter can't double that? Or is Hunter just a below average backup RB, who they still can't shoehorn into the offense?
Hunter's "minus yardage" tendencies seem to be contagious and gore's had a case of it all season. Gore's YPC is 4.1 the lowest in his career (down from 4.7 last year). Hunter likewise down to 4.6 from 5.2 last year. I know you think FO is a bunch of ignorant bean counters, but their metrics had SF as the #1 rated run blocking line in 2012. This year they're ranked 29th. Last year they got stuffed 17% of the time (7th best in the league), this year 24% (29th in the league). Last year on 3rd or 4th and 2 or less to go, they converted 66% of the time (12th best) , this year 55% for (28th best). Yada, yada...
Hunter is a below average RB period. Dr. Milk Carton brought up DVOA a year or two ago, so I emailed Danny Tuccito of FO to ask about why FO ranks them so low. It's mostly due to the play calling, formations, Harbaugh's use of the threat of the run, etc. It has nothing to do with the talent since Chilo Rachal was cut. They have gotten almost 2000 yards combined out of the rushing attack this season, most with Gore and Kaep, who rushed for 1600 combined alone. Kaep checks from shotgun, to pistol, to under center, sometimes going from pistol to under center in one pre snap read. This again of course with hardly any weapons most of the season in the passing offense.
I'm not sure what you are oh boying about could you expand. i watched the game with 7 49er fans on the weekend and the talk was mostly about how the 49ers often very close to Kaep costing them the game...
Not trying to be a jerk but stating that Kap has almost cost the 49ers from winning games often is a pretty ignorant viewpoint.
Why is that. The 49ers have a top defense, a top wr tandem, a top rb and an oline built on high draft picks. Watching that Carolina game how could you not think, especially in the first half, if he could just make some of these throws the 49ers would have absolutely killed them. Even the boldin down to the goalline throw...it couldn't have been more behind them. That should have been an easy touchdown and they scored anyway but if that ends up in a fg again...different game. So while I think he is an alright qb i think he is a really risky option and it would be smart to draft someone that is there in the background just in case.
