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WR Jameson Williams, DET (1 Viewer)
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Bracie Smathers
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Second game where Alabama has been without Jameson Williams, the other being Auburn. They aren't recognizable without him. That's how impactful he has been.
Second game where Alabama has been without Jameson Williams, the other being Auburn. They aren't recognizable without him. That's how impactful he has been.
JohnnyU
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DropKick
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Kind of a weird take Johnny...
I would think he would consider staying in school and getting healthy.
Summer Wheat
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Not really. It is an honest take though.
If he comes out he will drop and could be a bargain. Also if he does I might try to stash him on my dynasty team. Could be a steal down the road without the high price tag.
socrates
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More affordable because he is potentially less valuable. There is some obvious risk in drafting a player who cannot workout for teams and may spend his entire rookie season rehabbing, but ACL reconstructive surgeries are generally successful. I am sure there are other examples of players who entered the draft under similar circumstances, but I am drawing a blank. It would be interesting to look back on how it affected their draft values, both real and fantasy, and eventually their production value.JohnnyU said:
My suspicion is that Williams stays in school, but we will see.
FunkyPlutos
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Do we ever see a day coming when some of these players will skip a playoff game because of this outcome?
socrates
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Players already skip less meaningful bowl games, and I think it is just a matter of time before we see an NFL prospect sit out a playoff game. However, it would go against the competitive spirit of the player and bypass an opportunity to play on the biggest stage. If a player has sufficient game film and is confident in his draft status, I would not fault him for bowing out with so much wealth on the line. Last season, we saw Jaylen Waddle, at less than 100%, risk great fortune to participate in the National Championship Game. It worked out for him. When wealth that will change your life and the lives of your family is on the line, it makes perfect sense to guard that. I have heard of players in the past obtaining insurance policies, and I wonder if that is a better solution.
Summer Wheat
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Why playoff or bowl game? Injuries happen all the time. Once a player gets 4-5 games in with good film and results why play anymore? They can get hurt just as easily in the 5th or 6th game of the season or in practice.
Pack it in by November and train for the draft.
belljr
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They werent in the playoffs
Skipping bowl games started to happen 3-4 years ago? But no one has opted out of a playoff/championship that i know of
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socrates
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Summer Wheat
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We saw Ja'Marr Chase skip an entire college season to avoid injury.
Yep! Sewell and Parsons too.
Get a good year in and be projected as a future high pick and have skills you will get drafted even if you don`t play. NFL teams don`t care .
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Summer Wheat
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In all sports the player pool is endless. The guy on the bench is itching to to some PT so Next man up.
socrates
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This will surely affect Williams' draft placement. An NFL team is likely going to have to wait a season while Williams rehabs. Still, his potential is enticing.
I am curious what data we have on players returning from ACL injuries. Does it often take them a playing season back before they return to pre-injury level?
It is already a difficult transition to the NFL, and this is yet another hurdle for Williams. I am pulling for the kid
Andy Dufresne
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Titans reelected Jeffrey Simmons in the first just a couple months after tearing his ACL. That one worked out well.
Pipes
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Yep if Williams is available when Green Bay picks I'd be ecstatic if they took him.
Faust
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ILUVBEER99
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He’s not gonna fall in the draft due to an ACL injury. At his age it’s basically a non-issue.
JetMaxx
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socrates
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By Draft day, George Pickens will be a full year removed from his ACL tear and has amazingly completed a speedy and successful same-season recovery, and still his injury is affecting his draft grade. I am a huge fan of Jameson Williams, but if I am managing an NFL team, I have to take into consideration that he is likely to miss most or all of his rookie season while he rehabs, and the potential that the injury robs Williams of some of his explosiveness. Every NFL team has immediate needs, so it may take a team like Philly with the luxury of extra early picks for Williams to get drafted at or near his pre-injury grade.
Leroy Hoard
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"Win now" teams will pass, some GM with his job on the line or with an aging QB. But someone will take a chance and do the draft & stash.
socrates
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Absolutely some team will draft him to stash him away a season. The question for me is how far does he drop in the draft? Williams was considered a likely first-round pick prior to his injury, and some believed he would be the first WR drafted.
ILUVBEER99
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I’ll be surprised if he’s still not one of the first 3 WR’s drafted.
jameson / Wilson/London in some order.
Simmons was a freak of nature. He was every bit the prospect Nick Bosa was in that draft without the ACL tear. Jameson Williams was never going top-5. I'm surprised he and Metchie came out, instead of staying with a Heisman winning QB, and possibly improving their draft stocks, while contending for a national title.
We'll see how they recover, but right now I'd be shocked if either went in the 1st round. Metchie might even fall to round 3.
socrates
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Simmons was never going to drop far. Dominant interior pass rushers are too scarce for that.
Todd Gurley was considered a rare, elite talent at RB, and was taken in the top 10 despite his injury.
Jameson Williams is a very good, but not elite prospect in a what is a pretty deep WR class.
JohnnyU
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There are at least 4 other WRs better than him (Burks, London, Wilson, and Bell) and probably a fifth in the conversation (Olave), and not all of them will go in the first. That being said, even if Williams hadn't got hurt there is a good chance he wouldn't have gone in the first, let alone doing so after the ACL tear.
Penguin
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think I saw a mock with KC taking him at end of round one....
