2017 rookie pick 2.08 post NFL draft (Closed) (1 Viewer)

Now that the NFL draft is complete and we have had a few days to let things sink in, lets find out what the SP thinks of the rookies and where they stack up against each other for fantasy.

I decided to expand to four different polls post NFL draft, as now we can consider how each player fits with their teams and what that may mean in terms of fantasy points. 

I am populating the poll from my own rankings, with the exception of the 2QB poll where I will slot the top 3 QB choices at all times. If a player is not listed that you think should be, please recommend that they be added to the appropriate poll. If you would vote for a player who is not listed please vote other and post who you voted for, and that player will be added to the next poll.

Discussion welcome. Thanks everyone for voting.

Previous polls

Poll 1.01

Poll 1.02

Poll 1.03

Poll 1.04

Pick 1.05

Pick 1.06

Pick 1.07

Pick 1.08

Pick 1.09

Pick 1,10

Pick 1.11

Pick 1.12

Pick 2.01

Pick 2.02

Pick 2.03

Pick 2.04

Pick 2.05

Pick 2.06

Pick 2.07

Results so far:

Standard

1.01 Leonard Fournette 65.8% at 123 votes

1.02 Corey Davis 41.4% at 74 votes

1.03 Joe Mixon 37.7% at 81 votes

1.04 Christian McCaffrey 47.8% at 105 votes

1.05 Dalvin Cook 70.3% at 71 votes

1.06 Mike Williams 55.3% at 82 votes

1.07 OJ Howard 36.2% at 76 votes

1.08 Kareem Hunt 26.2% at 71 votes

1.09 Samajae Perine 25% at 86 votes

1.10 John Ross 29.8% at 65 votes

1.11 Alvin Kamara 23.5% at 60 votes

1.12 David Njoku 22.8% at 83 votes (tie broken based on TE Premium poll and MFL ADP )

2.01 Evan Engram 37.3% at 61 votes

2.02 Zay Jones 19.05% at 68 votes (tie between Foreman broken by MFL ADP)

2.03 JuJu Smith-Schuster 28% at 51 votes

2.04 D'Onta Foreman 33.3% at 44 votes

2.05 Marlon Mack 21.4% at 45 votes

2.06 Jamaal Williams 29.7% at 42 votes

2.07 Joe Williams 25.6% at 42 votes

2.08 Deshaun Watson 24.5% at 44 votes

PPR

1.01 Corey Davis 40.4% at 123 votes

1.02 Leonard Fournette 55.7% at 74 votes

1.03 Christian McCaffrey 66.2% at 81 votes

1.04 Joe Mixon 51.1% at 105 votes

1.05 Dalvin Cook 70.3% at 71 votes

1.06 Mike Williams 62.4% at 82 votes

1.07 OJ Howard 55.1% at 76 votes

1.08 John Ross 26.2% at 71 votes

1.09 Kareem Hunt 18.8% at 86 votes

1.10 Alvin Kamara 29.8% at 65 votes

1.11 Evan Engram 31.4% at 60 votes

1.12 David Njoku 34.2% at 83 votes

2.01 Zay Jones 33.9% at 61 votes

2.02 Samajae Perine 38.1% at 68 votes

2.03 JuJu Smith-Schuster 68% at 51 votes

2.04 D'Onta Foreman 30.8% at 44 votes

2.05 Marlon Mack 21.4% at 45 votes

2.06 Curtis Samuel 37.8% at 42 votes

2.07 Cooper Kupp 20.5% at 42 votes

2.08 Deshaun Watson 24.3% at 44 votes

2QB

1.01 Leonard Fournette 31.6% at 123 votes

1.02 Corey Davis 28.6% at 74 votes

1.03 Christian McCaffrey 31.2% at 81 votes

1.04 Joe Mixon 28.9% at 105 votes

1.05 Dalvin Cook 29.7% at 71 votes

1.06 Mike Williams 19.7% at 82 votes

1.07 Deshaun Watson 17.4% at 76 votes

1.08 OJ Howard 26.2% at 71 votes

1.09 Patrick Mahomes 18.8% at 86 votes

1.10 Mitch Trubisky 15,8% at 65 votes

1.11 Alvin Kamara 9.8% at 60 votes

1.12 Samajae Perine 11.4% at 83 votes

2.01 Evan Engram 15.3% at 61 votes

2.02 John Ross 14.3% at 68 votes (tied with David Njoku. Broke tie based on MFL ADP)

2.03 David Njoku 18% at 51 votes

2.04 Kareem Hunt 25.6% at 44 votes

2.05 Deshone Kizer 28.6% at 45 votes

2.06 Juju Smith-Schuster 32.4% at 42 votes

2.07 Zay Jones 20.5% at 42 votes

2.08 Curtis Samuel 29.7% at 44 votes

TE premium

1.01 Leonard Fournette 35% at 123 votes

1.02 Corey Davis 37.1% at 74 votes

1.03 Christian McCaffrey 36.4% at 81 votes

1.04 Joe Mixon 33.3% at 105 votes

1.05 Dalvin Cook 34.4% at 71 votes

1.06 OJ Howard 48.7% at 82 votes

1.07 Mike Williams 33.3% at 76 votes

1.08 David Njoku 29.5% at 71 votes

1.09 Evan Engram 46.3% at 86 votes

1.10 John Ross 26.3% at 65 votes

1.11 Alvin Kamara 19.6% at 60 votes

1.12 Samajae Perine 19% at 83 votes

2.01 Kareem Hunt 32.2% at 61 votes

2.02 Juju Smith-Schuster 20.3% at 68 votes

2.03 Zay Jones 18% at 51 votes

2.04 Gerald Everett 28.2% at 44 votes

2.05 D'Onta Foreman 28.6% at 45 votes

2.06 Adam Shaheen 13.5% at 42 votes

2.07 Curtis Samuel 28.2% at 42 votes

2.08 Deshaun Watson 16,2% at 44 votes

The next poll can be found here

It was a bit surprising to me that Joe Williams won the previous poll in standard scoring formats.

Bump

21 votes in two days.

3 votes in the last 22 hours....

This may be done if people do not participate more.

hmm

Biabreakable said:

It was a bit surprising to me that Joe Williams won the previous poll in standard scoring formats.

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Saw him go in the late first in a couple of drafts recently.  Just crazy

I would be happy to continue these polls if there were more participation. I decided to let it go because there wasn't.

But if this poll gets more than 40 votes I will make a thread for pick 2.09

This poll being completed would at least have the top 20. There are still good players available including all of the QB. I am curious about when a QB might win one of these polls in the standard/PPR voting. In the pre NFL draft polls no QB won those polls yet before that finished.

Biabreakable said:

I would be happy to continue these polls if there were more participation. I decided to let it go because there wasn't.

But if this poll gets more than 40 votes I will make a thread for pick 2.09

This poll being completed would at least have the top 20. There are still good players available including all of the QB. I am curious about when a QB might win one of these polls in the standard/PPR voting. In the pre NFL draft polls no QB won those polls yet before that finished.

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Get where you are coming from but it would be nice to get through 2.12

JoeSteeler said:

Get where you are coming from but it would be nice to get through 2.12

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Agreed.

I am willing. I just need more people to vote.

Slapdash said:

Saw him [Joe Williams] go in the late first in a couple of drafts recently.  Just crazy

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Yeah, I would agree.  There has been some speculation that Joe Williams would overtake Carlos Hyde, but I just don't see it.  He could find a lightning role to Hyde's thunder, but I am not convinced he would have enough value in that role to warrant such an early pick.  Williams will battle UFA Matt Breida for a role in this offense which also has Tim Hightower and Kapri Bibbs.  Much has been made of the report that Hyde was struggling with Shanahan's offense in OTAs :

"Hyde is the slowest and most indecisive running back on the team," Grant Cohn of the Press Democrat writes. "I’m not saying he’s bad – he does have quick feet between the tackles, he can bounce inside runs to the outside and he plows through defenders. But he doesn’t seem to have the vision to succeed in Kyle Shanahan’s outside-zone running scheme. Tuesday, he was the only running back who never found a hole to run through. On one stretch play, he missed a cutback lane, tried to bounce around the outside even though the linebacker had set the edge and lost three yards. The Niners should trade him to a team that runs the zone read."

The Niners spent a fourth round pick on Joe Williams of Utah in this year's draft, at the request of Shanahan. In that same piece, Cohn says Williams is impressing at OTAs. 

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Williams has top-end athleticism, speed and burst, and it is not at all surprising that he looked good in shorts.  However, he is not going to generate a lot of yards on his own, he is inexperienced in the passing game, struggles in pass protection and has had some fumbling problems.

Shanahan reportedly lobbied for the Niners to select Williams, so that should not be dismissed.

I have Joe Williams as a mid to late 2nd round pick in dynasty leagues, and I could see him going higher, but a late first is too high, imo.

Biabreakable said:

I would be happy to continue these polls if there were more participation. I decided to let it go because there wasn't.

But if this poll gets more than 40 votes I will make a thread for pick 2.09

This poll being completed would at least have the top 20. There are still good players available including all of the QB. I am curious about when a QB might win one of these polls in the standard/PPR voting. In the pre NFL draft polls no QB won those polls yet before that finished.

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Hit 44!

JoeSteeler said:

Hit 44!

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Yep. Jamal Williams broke the tie with Watson in the PPR poll.

I guess I will start the next one, so hopefully it will be tied again by the time I am done. 

Got my Golladay vote in.

Biabreakable said:

I would be happy to continue these polls if there were more participation. I decided to let it go because there wasn't.

But if this poll gets more than 40 votes I will make a thread for pick 2.09

This poll being completed would at least have the top 20. There are still good players available including all of the QB. I am curious about when a QB might win one of these polls in the standard/PPR voting. In the pre NFL draft polls no QB won those polls yet before that finished.

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Appreciate all the work you do, sorry I don't always catch them to vote in.

It is an interesting year where 3 QBs went so early, but aren't getting much FF love.  In dynasty, I'm thinking Kizer could be good value.

lod001 said:

Got my Golladay vote in.

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He is Charles Johnson reincarnate.