rockaction
Footballguy
I get what you're saying, but he doesn't just invade my Yahoo page.
Ohhhhhhh no. He invades GQ, The Hill, Real Clear Politics, TMZ, various political blogs, CNN, etc., etc., ad ####### nauseam.
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Ohhhhhhh no. He invades GQ, The Hill, Real Clear Politics, TMZ, various political blogs, CNN, etc., etc., ad ####### nauseam.
rockaction
Footballguy
GROOT
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
That is true. He's not an entertainer like the others. It's one of the many things that makes him a terrible President.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
jonessed
Footballguy
Surprisingly, they both are. Maher isn’t big on religion in general and has openly attacked Muslims on more than one occasion.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
He is like Sam Harris in that they say not all religions are the same. That is not the same thing as hating all Muslims.
rockaction
Footballguy
At least one is. I remember him dropping the racial epithet and he has certainly come under fire for his views on all organized religion, including Islam, which <> hating Muslims.
I think Christianity is generally misguided. I don’t hate Christians. Same with Islam and Muslims. That’s also Maher’s view. To say that he hates Muslims is to slander him, which isn’t cool.
Also, he doesn’t get a pass from the left.
So indeed both of those statements are false.
Also, he doesn’t get a pass from the left.
So indeed both of those statements are false.
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Stealthycat
Footballguy
actually based on what's accomplished, one of the best Presidential 2 1/2 years we've had
on a personal level is where he's terrible - but as far as the country running and things happening ? those are all very good
squistion
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
For a lot of people, its appointing Kavanaugh. He is awesome for the 1% too. Who knew SC was a billionaire?
What has he accomplished that makes him one of the best Presidents we have had?
jonessed
Footballguy
The first one is easy because he just did it again recently.
He definitely singles out Islam and he compares it directly to Christianity. It goes beyond just being a universal anti-religious theme. The videos in the link are good examples.
https://www.salon.com/2017/02/23/bill-maher-bigtime-bigot-his-outrageous-statements-about-islam-and-muslims-are-beyond-the-pale_partner/
Since 9/11, Bill Maher has devoted himself to mainstreaming the toxic narrative of Islamophobia. With a captive audience of millions, the support of a major cable network and a steady stream of celebrity guests, including no shortage of self-styled progressives, Maher has largely succeeded in his goal.
Dan Cohen’s video compilation (embedded below) represents the most shocking exposé to date of Maher’s corrosive impact, laying bare the raw bigotry he pumps out night after night.
According to Maher, “Islam is the motherlode of bad ideas,” the Quran is a “hate-filled holy book” and “the Islamization of Europe” is underway.
“Their cultures are not like ours,” Maher said, justifying the exclusion of Syrian refugees from the West. “They [are] worse!” he said of Muslims, branding Islam as “the only religion that acts like the Mafia.” Maher claims Muslims “bring that desert stuff” to the West, and that “if Muslim men could get laid more, we wouldn’t have this problem.”
“Talk to women who have ever dated an Arab man,” Maher insists. “The reviews are not good.” In Maher’s mind, moderate Muslims don’t exist. As the Iraqi army fights to retake cities controlled by the Islamic State, Maher denies that Muslims are battling ISIS. “Hundreds of millions of [Muslims]” support terror, according to Maher. “Most Muslim people in the world do condone violence,” he claims...
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
As I said, he thinks Islam is different/more dangerous from other religions, but hates them all. That is not the same as hating all Muslims.
timschochet
Footballguy
I’ve been thinking about this post.
Bill Maher is NOT a guy I see everywhere. I can avoid hearing about him I think. Nonetheless, there ARE certain people in our society that I can’t seem to avoid hearing about, they seem to be in the news all the time. In no particular order:
Donald Trump
Lady Gaga
Bryce Harper
Meghan Markle
Alwxandria Ocasio Cortez
Bernie Sanders
Kim Kardashian
LeBron James
Michelle Obama
Arianna Grande
Tom Brady
Lavar Ball
at least 3 of these folks are in the news every single day...
rockaction
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Maurile, I think the first one is a definite. He did use the epithet thinking he was "down" enough to be able to do without approbation.
The second one is colorable. Insisting in polite company that over half the Muslims in the world support terror is certainly as close as you're going to get to a public figure saying he doesn't like Muslims.
But I'm not hanging my hat on this. I find him contemptuous regardless.
Herb
Footballguy
Some damning stuff in here if you're looking to build a case that Maher is anti-Islam, for sure.
As to the video, it's the typical schlocky stuff anyone can put together to try to make a quick point, but it's totally lacking in context. There were a number of incendiary quotes made by Maher over the past 20+ years. I especially enjoyed the parts that made it seem as if he and Milo Yiannapa#### were spouting the same type of rhetoric and he is made to look as if he's fawning over and objectifying Ann Coulter. While both her and Milo have been guests on his show, Maher is the furthest thing ideologically from either.
Some of the stuff he says is despicable. I'm not a religious guy at all, but his opinions on religion bother me a lot. He wields free speech like a war hammer at times, with disgusting results.
But...
The bottom line is Maher is a comedian. Comedy is supposed to stretch boundaries and limits in ways that few other forms are allowed to get away with and Maher knows it and revels in it. I'm fine with that. And while he also doubles aa a sometimes ham-handed political pundit, he tries to engage conservative philosophy on his show to spark discussion and isn't afraid to call out liberalism and Democrats for their frequent buffoonery, especially when it comes to PC culture. I would think conservatives would appreciate that.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
How is Trump one of the best Presidents? I know you think he is but I want factual evidence. Don't give me data that happened just while he's been in office either, I want data on things he is directly responsible for.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
is that how we measure a Presidency now? is that how you measured Obama's presidency?
squistion
Footballguy
That is how historians rate all Presidents, by accomplishments directly attributed to them or their efforts. There are things that can be pointed to with Obama, such as passing health care reform and the stimulus package, along with saving the US auto industry, among others, etc.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/marchapril-2012/obamas-top-50-accomplishments/
Stealthycat
Footballguy
Obama didn't do those things - House and Senate did right ? "I want data on things he is directly responsible for." .............. that was the criteria
like, Obama's EO's would count as things he was directly responsible for ...
squistion
Footballguy
He was directly responsible, those things wouldn't have happened without him. Why do you think they call it Obamacare? And Republicans were dead set against the Detroit auto industry bailout, in case you have conveniently forgotten.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
Obama favored them yes, but he wasn't anymore "directly responsible" than Trump has been on what he's signed and what's happened under him ..... Democrats have pushed for years for national health care
Just like the prison reform that liberals refuse to give Trump credit for, right? Its been talked about for a long time, but it happened under Trump, Trump as directly responsible
right ?
squistion
Footballguy
If not for Obama, there would be no Obamacare. How many times on this forum have we heard that Obama forced Obamacare through? And now you say he wasn't at all responsible for the signature legislation that carried his name? Please.Stealthycat said:
And if not for Obama, GM and Ford would be history. Leading Republicans like Mitt Romney said under principles of free enterprise, Detroit auto industry should be allowed to fail and there should be no government bailout. Obama fought for the auto industry and won, which will always be considered a notch on his belt.
Yes, I'll suppose we can give Trump some credit for prison reform but with an asterisk, as Obama was denied that and many other things he and Democrats had called for because of Republican obstruction (see infrastructure) as they didn't want him to be able to claim credit for any accomplishment while he was in office.
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Stealthycat
Footballguy
Affordable Care Act - its not Obamacare
As much as Obama was the catalyst for it, it was still passed by Congress right ? In many ways, so too has Trump been the catalyst for the passages of Congressional acts in the last 2+ years
EO's are the only thing a POTUS can claim as being 100% directly responsible for. I guess state of emergencies too.
but that's why I've always said what happens under a POTUS is that administration's to own one way or the other with few exceptions. Clinton, Bush, Obama ... and Trump
As much as Obama was the catalyst for it, it was still passed by Congress right ? In many ways, so too has Trump been the catalyst for the passages of Congressional acts in the last 2+ years
EO's are the only thing a POTUS can claim as being 100% directly responsible for. I guess state of emergencies too.
but that's why I've always said what happens under a POTUS is that administration's to own one way or the other with few exceptions. Clinton, Bush, Obama ... and Trump
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Some of your points aside, one think I don’t understand is why Trump utilized a national emergency here instead of an executive order. The only thing I can think of is that a NE potentially carries with it additional extraconstitutional powers.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Really? That's what you're going with?
They call it that because they think it sucks
