Here we go - My last mock of the year. 3 rounds. (1 Viewer)

[Chaos Commish]

I would disagree with that if true. Everything I've heard states that Robinson is way more cut out for RB than WR. Some are saying that about McNeal as well, but he has elite speed that would make him more of a vertical threat. I think McNeal is a better pick.

Good call on MRob, EG. Looking for a power back in this class of lightweights? Michael Robinson may be the ticket. Nice wheels, good feet, very powerful runner, 6-1 218 at the Senior Bowl, but can easily play at 230, played at 225 most of last season.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Round 1

1.18 Dallas Cowboys - Manny Lawson, DE - North Carolina State

1.23 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Johnathan Joseph, DB - South Carolina

A few other comments: I see 18 being Carpenter or Wimbley, not Lawson.very intrigued by tampa going DB - could you say a little more on this one?

I agree with this two. There's even some caveats flying around about Lawson. 233 pounds at his last weigh in. Ultra high metabolism, cannot put on weight. Too small for 3-4 OLB, too inexperienced for 4-3, will get run over at DE. I still like him, but he's falling, methinks.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Round 1

1.18 Dallas Cowboys - Manny Lawson, DE - North Carolina State

1.23 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Johnathan Joseph, DB - South Carolina

A few other comments: I see 18 being Carpenter or Wimbley, not Lawson.very intrigued by tampa going DB - could you say a little more on this one?

I agree with this two. There's even some caveats flying around about Lawson. 233 pounds at his last weigh in. Ultra high metabolism, cannot put on weight. Too small for 3-4 OLB, too inexperienced for 4-3, will get run over at DE. I still like him, but he's falling, methinks.

I didn't give much thought to that pick. Just wanted to show that the 'Boys will NOT go safety in the first.

 

[Ridgelake]

Just wanted to show that the 'Boys will NOT go safety in the first.

I completely agree. I'll be very surprised if they take a safety at 18. Unless its Huff. But thats not going to happen.......

 

[MLBrandow]

I don't know if this has been brought up, but 20 of your 32 picks are identical to nfldraftcountdown.com, not including four (15, 16, 19, 20) which are flip-flopped.

I know it's almost draft time, but is there really that much consensus on every pick?

I think it's a solid mock though, and if there's one mock drafter to be confused with, it's got to be Scott Wright. If I'm not mistaken, I believe he got 13 of the first 15 picks right last year, and 20something in the first round.

I agree with you on Bunkley at 8 and Jimmy Williams falling.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I don't know if this has been brought up, but 20 of your 32 picks are identical to nfldraftcountdown.com, not including four (15, 16, 19, 20) which are flip-flopped.

I know it's almost draft time, but is there really that much consensus on every pick?

To be completely honest, I get probably 50% of my information from that site.But realistically, yes, I do think that there is turning out to be a lot of consensus for most of the pics. 20 out of 32 isn't outrageous, is it?

There are teams that obviously need a defensive back. There's lots of first round talent. After you slot the top 4 picks, the next few fall into place.

I thought about putting Vernon Davis to the Packers, but I think Ted Thompson doesn't give a #### what Brett Favre thinks and Hawk is more important to the franchise than Davis.

I think the Broncos and the Dolphins HAVE to take one of either of the receivers that are at that spot. The Dolphins offense could be a real sleeper this year if they get anything out of the #2 WR spot.

SF needs an OLB, and at that spot Wimbley makes the most sense.

I have Sinorice Moss as a 2nd rounder.

Carolina would be blowing it to not take Lendale White. Same with Indy and Maroney.

So really, there isn't that much wiggle room to be different in the 1st. The preponerance of 1st round d-backs creates a logjam.

 

[jaemcy3]

I'd be happy but surprised to see Winston fall to the Texans in the second. Assuming he is gone:

Does Lawson fall far enough to be available here, if so is that the pick?

Winston going in the first could lead to Allen falling one pick.

Or do they simply take the next best OT and go with McNeill?

Lawson and McNeill both have injury concerns. I can see this being a tough pick for the Texans.

In your view if Winston is gone, who do they take?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

In your view if Winston is gone, who do they take?

Whoever they think the best LT left is. In this situation, it would be McNeill.

 

[Jason Wood]

VERY SOLID work Andy

Thanks for taking the time to put together such a thoughtful mock.

A few thoughts...

1) Kellen Clemens (QB-Oregon) has been having a meteoric rise, I expect he'll go in the 2nd now, by the mid-3rd at worst

2) NY local reports (could be smokescreen) say that if Leinart is there at 4, the Jets are taking him. If he's not there (i.e., if Tenny takes him at 3), the Jets will NOT take Young or Cutler, but would instead grab D'Brick or Mario Williams

3) I think Ernie Sims (LB, Florida State) is Arizona's guy

4) According to Rob Rang, Daryn Colledge's stock is dropping, not rising, so I can't see him a) going that high or b) going ahead of Latui and Davin Joseph

5) No way do both Mangold and Joseph fall into the bottom of the 2nd round

 

[hobbes4]

Book it that the Saints will still take D'Brickashaw Ferguson.They hope to trade down obviously and may not ask for much from the Jets considering they would still get Brick and have to pay him less...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

5) No way do both Mangold and Joseph fall into the bottom of the 2nd round

I didn't do well with these players, admittedly.

 

[Jason Wood]

5) No way do both Mangold and Joseph fall into the bottom of the 2nd round

I didn't do well with these players, admittedly.

I think interior lineman are tough to mock because they rarely rate as the "biggest need" and, all things being equal, there's the notion that teams will pick other positions over an interior lineman if they carry similar grades. That said, there are guys who simply are too talented and productive to pass on.I'm a big-time Joseph fan, he bowled me over on NFL Total Access. The kid is a real student of the game, giving a detailed breakdown of all the top DT prospects and their various strengths and weaknesses were.

 

[Z-Dog]

Kendall and Teague are both quality vets.

I bet you'd get a lot of argument that they're not.

There are other rounds in the draft beyond the ones you mocked, and O line is probably the deepest position in the draft. After all the Jets have needs at every offensive position and at DE and LB.

When the need's that great and the opportunity presents itself, why not?If I were a Jets fan, I'd be anything but disappointed if it ended up this way.

They're not going to rebuild that team in one draft/one season anyway.

Arguements about Kendall and Teague? I doubt it. Remember, the problem with the Jets line last season was that by the middle of the year, the line was:LT: Jones (first year as starter - began the year at RT)

LG: Jonathan Goodwin

C: Kendall (out of position)

RG: Brandon Moore

RT: Scott Gragg

I think we'd all agree that it was a terrible line, but the addition of Trey Teague solidifies the middle of the line, allowing Kendall to go back to his natural position. The Jets also have a young center named Norm Katnick that they are high on, so I don't think they will draft a C - they're not going to carry three Cs. But what are they going ot do with two more Ts?

I guess we disagree on the level of need. It's not unprecedented, in my opinion. I also think the level of need is at least as high at the skill positions. I would eat my hat if the Jets took three o-linemen in the top 100.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think we'd all agree that it was a terrible line, but the addition of Trey Teague solidifies the middle of the line.

No it does not.It was discussed at length here.

I'll admit that adding anything to zero is still greater than zero, but this signing helps for depth only. And then only marginally so.

 

[Funkley]

Interesting. I think the Vikes would take Lawson or J. Williams over DeAngelo.

I'm big on Jon Alston to fill that fast linebacker role they're looking for.Why do you think CB in the first? I just don't see the Vikings doing that.

Paul Allen has mentioned a few times that the Vikes are not happy with Smoot. And supposedly they really like Williams.Lawson is interesting because he's one of the fastest rising players in the draft we've heard nothing about here. Last time that happened we took Williamson.

Personally, I like DeAngelo.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Paul Allen has mentioned a few times that the Vikes are not happy with Smoot. And supposedly they really like Williams.

That makes no sense. Why would they trade one thug for another.

Personally, I like DeAngelo.

 

[BoltBacker]

4) According to Rob Rang, Daryn Colledge's stock is dropping, not rising, so I can't see him a) going that high or b) going ahead of Latui and Davin Joseph

Did he give a reason why?He's one of the lightest OT prospects and didn't play for a college powerhouse which made me a little surprised he was grouped around guys like Eric Winston and Jeremy Trueblood but neither of those factors are new so I'm not sure that either would contribute to him falling. Does have off-field issues? Bad combine? Poor wonderlic?

 

[Jason Wood]

4) According to Rob Rang, Daryn Colledge's stock is dropping, not rising, so I can't see him a) going that high or b) going ahead of Latui and Davin Joseph

Did he give a reason why?He's one of the lightest OT prospects and didn't play for a college powerhouse which made me a little surprised he was grouped around guys like Eric Winston and Jeremy Trueblood but neither of those factors are new so I'm not sure that either would contribute to him falling. Does have off-field issues? Bad combine? Poor wonderlic?

1) Need to bulk up (but doubts about whether he can)2) Overpowered at the Senior Bowl

3) Concerns that his personality is "not what they expect for an offensive lineman"

 

[Redwes25]

Teams coming out bad in this mock are the Raiders, Giants, Bucs and Titans.

I'm interested in why you feel that way.

The Raiders need alot on defense and I, not being a raiders fan, think they need to address the D with their early pick or trade down. I think Andrew Walter is a great prospect and might be better than Leinart for that offense. Leinart doesn't have an extremly strong arm and all Oakland wants to do for the next couple years is throw the ball deep. In my oinion it's not a good fit. Howard is a nice LB from what I've read (never seen him play) and a ss is a spot they need help with. I just feel with a bad team like the Raiders they need impact help instead of getting projects.The Giants draft an underachieving DT in the first, a wr way to early in the second and a LB after they just paid Lavar alot of cash in the third. I just don't ssee them helping thier starting team.

The Bucs I might take back my statement alittle. I did see Joseph play a couple of times and he was a nice player. The kid from Cal is said be going alittle later.

I already stated why I didn't like Tenn.

I would not be surprised to see the Giants pick a DT in the first round. I think it is there biggest need at this point after having lost both Kendrick Clancy and Kendrick Allen in the offseason. It is of note that BigBlueIneractive's predicition is that the Giants take Watson. I also would not be surprised if they drafted a LB in the first even with the Arrington signing but I think they might just draft one a little later in the draft.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Here's a comparison of my predictions vs actual.I think this shows that most NFL GMs don't know what they're doing. I'm actually pretty pleased how close I came, at least position wise, for most teams. I actually outright nailed a few selections outside the first round, missing by only a round or so (Pope, Norwood, Zemaitis).

Arizona Cardinals 1.10 Jay Cutler , QB - Vanderbilt2.41 Leonard Pope , TE - Georgia3.72 Charles Spencer , OG - Pittsburgh

1 10 Leinart, Matt QB 6-5 224 Southern California 2 41 Lutui, Taitusi 'Deuce' G 6-4 333 Southern California 3 72 Pope, Leonard TE 6-8 257 Georgia 4 107 Watson, Gabriel DT 6-3 340 Michigan

Atlanta Falcons2.47 Danieal Manning , DB - Abilene Christian3.79 Jerrious Norwood , RB - Mississippi St.3.93 Taitusi Lutui , OG - Southern Cal

2 37 Williams, Jimmy CB 6-2 214 Virginia Tech 3 79 Norwood, Jerious RB 6-0 203 Mississippi State 5 139 Ojinnaka, Quinn OT 6-5 308 Syracuse

Baltimore Ravens1.13 Winston Justice , OT - Southern Cal2.44 John McCargo , DT - North Carolina State

1 12 Ngata, Haloti DT 6-4 337 Oregon 2 56 Chester, Chris C 6-3 302 Oklahoma 3 87 Pittman, David CB 5-11 182 Northwestern State 4 111 Williams, Demetrius WR 6-2 198 Oregon

Buffalo Bills1.8 Brodrick Bunkley , DT - Florida State2.42 Jonathan Scott , OT - Texas3.70 Cedric Griffin , SS - Texas3.73 Brandon Marshall , WR - Central Florida

1 8 Whitner, Donte SS 5-10 203 Ohio State 1 26 McCargo, John DT 6-2 301 North Carolina State 3 70 Youboty, Ashton CB 6-0 188 Ohio State 4 105 Simpson, Ko FS 6-1 208 South Carolina

Carolina Panthers1.27 LenDale White , RB - Southern Cal2.58 Marcedes Lewis , TE - UCLA3.88 Jesse Mahelona , DT - Tennessee3.89 Gerris Wilkinson , ILB - Georgia Tech

1 27 Williams, DeAngelo RB 5-9 213 Memphis 2 58 Marshall, Richard CB 5-11 188 Fresno State 3 88 Anderson, James OLB 6-3 230 Virginia Tech 3 89 Butler, Rashad OT 6-5 292 Miami (Fla.)

Chicago Bears1.26 Antonio Cromartie , DB - Florida State2.57 Anthony Fasano , TE - Notre Dame

2 42 Manning, Danieal SS 5-11 201 Abilene Christian 2 57 Hester, Devin WR 5-11 189 Miami (Fla.) 3 73 Dvoracek, Dusty DT 6-3 305 Oklahoma

Cincinnati Bengals1.24 Donte Whitner , SS - Ohio State2.55 Joe Klopfenstein , TE - Colorado3.91 Stanley McClover , DE - Auburn

1 24 Joseph, Johnathan CB 5-11 192 South Carolina 2 55 Whitworth, Andrew OT 6-7 327 Louisiana State 3 91 Rucker, Frostee DE 6-3 267 Southern California

Cleveland Browns1.12 Haloti Ngata , DT - Oregon2.43 Roger McIntosh , OLB - Miami3.78 Ray Edwards , DE - Purdue

1 13 Wimbley, Kamerion DE 6-3 241 Florida State 2 34 Jackson, D'Qwell ILB 6-0 229 Maryland 3 78 Wilson, Travis WR 6-2 213 Oklahoma 4 110 Williams, Leon ILB 6-3 246 Miami (Fla.)

Dallas Cowboys1.18 Manny Lawson , DE - North Carolina State2.49 Ko Simpson , FS - South Carolina3.80 Demetrius Williams , WR - Oregon

1 18 Carpenter, Bobby OLB 6-3 255 Ohio State 2 53 Fasano, Anthony TE 6-4 258 Notre Dame 3 92 Hatcher, Jason DE 6-6 283 Grambling State 4 125 Green, Skyler WR 5-9 191 Louisiana State

Denver Broncos1.15 Santonio Holmes , WR - Ohio State2.37 Mathias Kiwanuka , DE - Boston College2.61 Maurice Drew , RB - UCLA3.68 Darnell Bing , SS - Southern Cal

1 11 Cutler, Jay QB 6-3 225 Vanderbilt 2 61 Scheffler, Tony TE 6-5 255 Western Michigan 4 119 Marshall, Brandon WR 6-4 230 Central Florida 4 126 Dumervil, Elvis DE 5-11 258 Louisville

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Detroit Lions1.9 Michael Huff , FS - Texas2.40 Abdul Hodge , ILB - Iowa3.74 Andrew Whitworth , OT - LSU

1 9 Sims, Ernie OLB 5-11 232 Florida State 2 40 Bullocks, Daniel SS 6-0 213 Nebraska 3 74 Calhoun, Brian RB 5-9 202 Wisconsin 5 141 Scott, Jonathan OT 6-6 314 Texas

Green Bay Packers1.5 A.J. Hawk , OLB - Ohio State2.36 Sinorice Moss , WR - Miami3.67 Fred Matua , OG - USC

1 5 Hawk, A.J. OLB 6-1 247 Ohio State 2 47 Colledge, Daryn OT 6-4 298 Boise State 2 52 Jennings, Greg WR 5-11 196 Western Michigan 3 67 Hodge, Abdul ILB 6-0 235 Iowa 3 75 Spitz, Jason C 6-3 304 Louisville

Houston Texans1.1 Reggie Bush , RB - Southern Cal2.33 Eric Winston , OT - Miami3.65 Daniel Bullocks , SS - Nebraska3.66 Darryl Tapp , DE - Virginia Tech

1 1 Williams, Mario DE 6-7 294 North Carolina State 2 33 Ryans, DeMeco OLB 6-1 235 Alabama 3 65 Spencer, Charles OT 6-5 351 Pittsburgh 3 66 Winston, Eric OT 6-6 311 Miami (Fla.)

Indianapolis Colts1.30 Laurence Maroney , RB - Minnesota2.62 Davin Joseph , OG - Oklahoma3.94 Rodrique Wright , DT - Texas

1 30 Addai, Joseph RB 5-11 215 Louisiana State 2 62 Jennings, Tim CB 5-8 186 Georgia 3 94 Keiaho, Freddie ILB 5-11 227 San Diego State

Jacksonville Jaguars1.28 DeMeco Ryans , OLB - Alabama2.60 Joseph Addai , RB - LSU3.92 Chris Gocong , DE - Cal Poly

1 28 Lewis, Marcedes TE 6-6 262 UCLA 2 60 Drew, Maurice RB 5-7 206 UCLA 3 80 Ingram, Clint OLB 6-2 245 Oklahoma

Kansas City Chiefs1.20 Jimmy Williams , DB - Virginia Tech2.54 Claude Wroten , DT - LSU3.85 Elvis Dumervil , DE - Louisville

1 20 Hali, Tamba DE 6-3 275 Penn State 2 54 Pollard, Bernard SS 6-2 223 Purdue 3 85 Croyle, Brodie QB 6-3 204 Alabama

Miami Dolphins1.16 Chad Jackson , WR - Florida3.82 Greg Blue , SS - Georgia

1 16 Allen, Jason CB 6-1 208 Tennessee 3 82 Hagan, Derek WR 6-2 209 Arizona State

Minnesota Vikings1.17 DeAngelo Williams , RB - Memphis2.48 Jon Alston , OLB - Stanford2.51 Max Jean-Gilles , OG - Georgia3.83 Omar Jacobs , QB - Bowling Green3.95 David Pittman , DB - Northwestern State

1 17 Greenway, Chad OLB 6-3 243 Iowa 2 48 Griffin, Cedric CB 6-0 198 Texas 2 51 Cook, Ryan C 6-7 327 New Mexico 2 64 Jackson, Tarvaris QB 6-2 225 Alabama State

New England Patriots1.21 Richard Marshall , DB - Fresno State2.52 Maurice Stovall , WR - Notre Dame3.75 Brian Calhoun , RB - Wisconsin3.86 Spencer Havner , ILB - UCLA

1 21 Maroney, Laurence RB 6-0 216 Minnesota 2 36 Jackson, Chad WR 6-1 212 Florida 3 86 Thomas, Dave TE 6-3 239 Texas

 

[Andy Dufresne]

New Orleans Saints1.2 Mario Williams , DE - North Carolina State2.34 Daryn Colledge , OG - Boise State

1 2 Bush, Reggie RB 5-11 200 Southern California 2 43 Harper, Roman FS 6-0 197 Alabama

New York Giants1.25 Gabriel Watson , DT - Michigan2.56 Martin Nance , WR - Miami (OH)3.87 A.J. Nicholson , OLB - Florida State

1 32 Kiwanuka, Mathias DE 6-6 265 Boston College 2 44 Moss, Sinorice WR 5-8 184 Miami (Fla.) 3 96 Wilkinson, Gerris ILB 6-3 239 Georgia Tech

New York Jets1.4 D'Brickashaw Ferguson , OT - Virginia1.29 Bobby Carpenter , OLB - Ohio State2.35 Marcus McNeill , OT - Auburn3.71 Charlie Whitehurst , QB - Clemson3.97 Greg Eslinger , OC - Minnesota

1 4 Ferguson, D'Brickashaw OT 6-6 313 Virginia 1 29 Mangold, Nick C 6-4 299 Ohio State 2 49 Clemens, Kellen QB 6-2 223 Oregon 3 76 Schlegel, Anthony ILB 6-0 251 Ohio State

Oakland Raiders1.7 Matt Leinart , QB - Southern Cal2.38 Thomas Howard , OLB - UTEP3.69 Pat Watkins , FS - Florida State

1 7 Huff, Michael SS 6-0 203 Texas 2 38 Howard, Thomas OLB 6-3 240 Texas-El Paso 3 69 McQuistan, Paul G 6-6 313 Weber State

Philadelphia Eagles1.14 Chad Greenway , OLB - Iowa2.45 Tamba Hali , DE - Penn State3.76 Jonathan Lewis , NT - Virginia Tech

1 14 Bunkley, Brodrick DT 6-3 307 Florida State 2 39 Justice, Winston OT 6-6 320 Southern California 3 71 Gocong, Chris DE 6-2 264 Cal Poly 4 99 Jean-Gilles, Max G 6-4 356 Georgia

Pittsburgh Steelers1.32 Jason Allen , FS - Tennessee2.64 Nick Mangold , OC - Ohio State3.96 Reggie McNeal , QB - Texas A&M

1 25 Holmes, Santonio WR 5-11 187 Ohio State 3 83 Smith, Anthony FS 6-0 193 Syracuse 3 95 Reid, Willie WR 5-11 187 Florida State

San Diego Chargers1.19 Tye Hill , DB - Clemson2.50 D'Qwell Jackson , ILB - Maryland3.81 Jeremy Trueblood , OT - Boston College

1 19 Cromartie, Antonio CB 6-2 207 Florida State 2 50 McNeill, Marcus OT 6-7 337 Auburn 3 81 Whitehurst, Charlie QB 6-5 222 Clemson

San Fransico 49ers1.6 Vernon Davis , TE - Maryland1.22 Kamerion Wimbley , DE - Florida State3.84 Derek Hagan , WR - Arizona State

San Francisco Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School 1 6 Davis, Vernon TE 6-3 256 Maryland 1 22 Lawson, Manny OLB 6-5 240 North Carolina State 3 84 Williams, Brandon WR 5-9 180 Wisconsin

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Seattle Seahawks1.31 Kelly Jennings , DB - Miami2.63 Mark Anderson , DE - Alabama

1 31 Jennings, Kelly CB 5-11 179 Miami (Fla.) 2 63 Tapp, Darryl DE 6-1 251 Virginia Tech

St. Louis Rams1.11 Ernie Sims , OLB - Florida State2.46 Dominique Byrd , TE - Southern Cal3.77 Demario Minter , DB - Georgia

1 15 Hill, Tye CB 5-9 186 Clemson 2 46 Klopfenstein, Joe TE 6-6 256 Colorado 3 68 Wroten, Claude DT 6-2 303 Louisiana State 3 77 Alston, Jon OLB 6-1 224 Stanford 3 93 Byrd, Dominique TE 6-2 256 Southern California

Tampa Bay Buccaneers1.23 Johnathan Joseph , DB - South Carolina2.59 Ryan O'Callaghan , OT - California3.90 Alan Zemaitis , DB - Penn State

1 23 Joseph, Davin G 6-3 312 Oklahoma 2 59 Trueblood, Jeremy OT 6-8 315 Boston College 3 90 Stovall, Maurice WR 6-4 218 Notre Dame 4 122 Zemaitis, Alan CB 6-1 193 Penn State

Tennessee Titans1.3 Vince Young , QB - Texas2.39 Ashton Youboty , DB - Ohio State

1 3 Young, Vince QB 6-5 228 Texas 2 45 White, LenDale RB 6-0 237 Southern California

Washington Redskins2.53 Terna Nande , OLB - Miami (OH)

2 35 McIntosh, Roger 'Rocky' OLB 6-2 236 Miami (Fla.)