2024 Cowboys Thread. “Dak doesn’t play for money”. Well then shut up and sign a league minimum deal (2 Viewers)

[The Man With No Name]

Prescott and McCarthy could both be gone after the 2924 season.

 

[Bankerguy]

Per Jerry:

We are “all in” and that he thinks we all around the rim.

 

[Terpman22]

So if Dak convincingly beats Lamar in almost all catagories during arguably an MVP season then craps the bed in the playoffs, only to be said he should be cut, traded, etc.
What is being said about Lamar who basically gave this game away with overthrows and INT’s ? In Dallas, it was the Defense that gave up 45 points and made Love look like Rodgers. In Baltimore, the Defense held Mahomes to 17 points.
Hmmmm

My Dad is a Die Hard Ravens Fan. He's not happy, but to put into context, this is why Lamar kinda gets excused more and Dak does not.

How many All Pro Players did the Cowboys have and how many All Pro players did the Ravens have, outside of each QB? Didn't the Cowboys have 3 All Pro offensive lineman?

Just to compare a little

Dak weapons: All Pro WR CD Lamb, Pro Bowl TE Jake Ferguson, 3 All Pro Offensive lineman. A few role players at WR/RB.
Lamar Weapons: A Rookie WR, a backup tight end (although Andrews did play in the AFCCG), a few role players at WR/RB.

This in part is why Lamar gets MVP front runner status, and Dak kinda gets the Purdy treatment - "Cool stats, but who couldn't put up great stats with these weapons"

Anyway, carry on!

 

[Rig24]

well i am on the edge...

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

So if Dak convincingly beats Lamar in almost all catagories during arguably an MVP season then craps the bed in the playoffs, only to be said he should be cut, traded, etc.
What is being said about Lamar who basically gave this game away with overthrows and INT’s ? In Dallas, it was the Defense that gave up 45 points and made Love look like Rodgers. In Baltimore, the Defense held Mahomes to 17 points.
Hmmmm

My Dad is a Die Hard Ravens Fan. He's not happy, but to put into context, this is why Lamar kinda gets excused more and Dak does not.

How many All Pro Players did the Cowboys have and how many All Pro players did the Ravens have, outside of each QB? Didn't the Cowboys have 3 All Pro offensive lineman?

Just to compare a little

Dak weapons: All Pro WR CD Lamb, Pro Bowl TE Jake Ferguson, 3 All Pro Offensive lineman. A few role players at WR/RB.
Lamar Weapons: A Rookie WR, a backup tight end (although Andrews did play in the AFCCG), a few role players at WR/RB.

This in part is why Lamar gets MVP front runner status, and Dak kinda gets the Purdy treatment - "Cool stats, but who couldn't put up great stats with these weapons"

Anyway, carry on!

Lamar would have better weapons if he could hit the broad side of a barn. He’s AWFUL at quarterback.

He might be the hardest guy to tackle in the league. Unfortunately that doesn’t help you read defenses and throw guys open with accuracy.

 

[Terpman22]

So if Dak convincingly beats Lamar in almost all catagories during arguably an MVP season then craps the bed in the playoffs, only to be said he should be cut, traded, etc.
What is being said about Lamar who basically gave this game away with overthrows and INT’s ? In Dallas, it was the Defense that gave up 45 points and made Love look like Rodgers. In Baltimore, the Defense held Mahomes to 17 points.
Hmmmm

My Dad is a Die Hard Ravens Fan. He's not happy, but to put into context, this is why Lamar kinda gets excused more and Dak does not.

How many All Pro Players did the Cowboys have and how many All Pro players did the Ravens have, outside of each QB? Didn't the Cowboys have 3 All Pro offensive lineman?

Just to compare a little

Dak weapons: All Pro WR CD Lamb, Pro Bowl TE Jake Ferguson, 3 All Pro Offensive lineman. A few role players at WR/RB.
Lamar Weapons: A Rookie WR, a backup tight end (although Andrews did play in the AFCCG), a few role players at WR/RB.

This in part is why Lamar gets MVP front runner status, and Dak kinda gets the Purdy treatment - "Cool stats, but who couldn't put up great stats with these weapons"

Anyway, carry on!

Lamar would have better weapons if he could hit the broad side of a barn. He’s AWFUL at quarterback.

He might be the hardest guy to tackle in the league. Unfortunately that doesn’t help you read defenses and throw guys open with accuracy.

I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying. Trade out Likely and Zay Flowers + offensive line for CD Lamb, Ferguson and 3 All Pro OL guys, I'm sure some statistics would change.

To me they are the same QB when the lights get bright in the playoffs though.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

So if Dak convincingly beats Lamar in almost all catagories during arguably an MVP season then craps the bed in the playoffs, only to be said he should be cut, traded, etc.
What is being said about Lamar who basically gave this game away with overthrows and INT’s ? In Dallas, it was the Defense that gave up 45 points and made Love look like Rodgers. In Baltimore, the Defense held Mahomes to 17 points.
Hmmmm

My Dad is a Die Hard Ravens Fan. He's not happy, but to put into context, this is why Lamar kinda gets excused more and Dak does not.

How many All Pro Players did the Cowboys have and how many All Pro players did the Ravens have, outside of each QB? Didn't the Cowboys have 3 All Pro offensive lineman?

Just to compare a little

Dak weapons: All Pro WR CD Lamb, Pro Bowl TE Jake Ferguson, 3 All Pro Offensive lineman. A few role players at WR/RB.
Lamar Weapons: A Rookie WR, a backup tight end (although Andrews did play in the AFCCG), a few role players at WR/RB.

This in part is why Lamar gets MVP front runner status, and Dak kinda gets the Purdy treatment - "Cool stats, but who couldn't put up great stats with these weapons"

Anyway, carry on!

Lamar would have better weapons if he could hit the broad side of a barn. He’s AWFUL at quarterback.

He might be the hardest guy to tackle in the league. Unfortunately that doesn’t help you read defenses and throw guys open with accuracy.

I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying. Trade out Likely and Zay Flowers + offensive line for CD Lamb, Ferguson and 3 All Pro OL guys, I'm sure some statistics would change.

To me they are the same QB when the lights get bright in the playoffs though.

Lamar and Hurts are the same guy. I’d say Hurts is a better passer but not the same runner (even before last year)

I’ll never stop saying it. When these running guys face playoff defenses they look like deer in the headlights. To be fair it happens to more skilled passers (Like Dak,) too.


FTR/ I’m not suggesting Dak is a precision passer. (Rarely hits guys in stride).

 

[Snotbubbles]

So if Dak convincingly beats Lamar in almost all catagories during arguably an MVP season then craps the bed in the playoffs, only to be said he should be cut, traded, etc.
What is being said about Lamar who basically gave this game away with overthrows and INT’s ? In Dallas, it was the Defense that gave up 45 points and made Love look like Rodgers. In Baltimore, the Defense held Mahomes to 17 points.
Hmmmm

My Dad is a Die Hard Ravens Fan. He's not happy, but to put into context, this is why Lamar kinda gets excused more and Dak does not.

How many All Pro Players did the Cowboys have and how many All Pro players did the Ravens have, outside of each QB? Didn't the Cowboys have 3 All Pro offensive lineman?

Just to compare a little

Dak weapons: All Pro WR CD Lamb, Pro Bowl TE Jake Ferguson, 3 All Pro Offensive lineman. A few role players at WR/RB.
Lamar Weapons: A Rookie WR, a backup tight end (although Andrews did play in the AFCCG), a few role players at WR/RB.

This in part is why Lamar gets MVP front runner status, and Dak kinda gets the Purdy treatment - "Cool stats, but who couldn't put up great stats with these weapons"

Anyway, carry on!

Lamar would have better weapons if he could hit the broad side of a barn. He’s AWFUL at quarterback.

He might be the hardest guy to tackle in the league. Unfortunately that doesn’t help you read defenses and throw guys open with accuracy.

I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying. Trade out Likely and Zay Flowers + offensive line for CD Lamb, Ferguson and 3 All Pro OL guys, I'm sure some statistics would change.

To me they are the same QB when the lights get bright in the playoffs though.

Lamar and Hurts are the same guy. I’d say Hurts is a better passer but not the same runner (even before last year)

I’ll never stop saying it. When these running guys face playoff defenses they look like deer in the headlights. To be fair it happens to more skilled passers (Like Dak,) too.


FTR/ I’m not suggesting Dak is a precision passer. (Rarely hits guys in stride).

Jalen Hurts in last years Superbowl: 27-38, 304 yds, 1 TD, 0 Ints; 15 rushes, 70 yards, 3 TDs

He didn't throw an INT in last years playoffs. If that's a deer in headlights, I'll take it.

ETA: Mahomes only threw for 182 yards in last years Superbowl. Hurts was the best player on the field that day.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Classic Jerry. His team can't make it to the Super Bowl anymore, so he throws out a comment that he knows will get everyone talking the week before the Super Bowl. This is so predictable.

 

[need2know]

So if Dak convincingly beats Lamar in almost all catagories during arguably an MVP season then craps the bed in the playoffs, only to be said he should be cut, traded, etc.
What is being said about Lamar who basically gave this game away with overthrows and INT’s ? In Dallas, it was the Defense that gave up 45 points and made Love look like Rodgers. In Baltimore, the Defense held Mahomes to 17 points.
Hmmmm

My Dad is a Die Hard Ravens Fan. He's not happy, but to put into context, this is why Lamar kinda gets excused more and Dak does not.

How many All Pro Players did the Cowboys have and how many All Pro players did the Ravens have, outside of each QB? Didn't the Cowboys have 3 All Pro offensive lineman?

Just to compare a little

Dak weapons: All Pro WR CD Lamb, Pro Bowl TE Jake Ferguson, 3 All Pro Offensive lineman. A few role players at WR/RB.
Lamar Weapons: A Rookie WR, a backup tight end (although Andrews did play in the AFCCG), a few role players at WR/RB.

This in part is why Lamar gets MVP front runner status, and Dak kinda gets the Purdy treatment - "Cool stats, but who couldn't put up great stats with these weapons"

Anyway, carry on!

Lamar would have better weapons if he could hit the broad side of a barn. He’s AWFUL at quarterback.

He might be the hardest guy to tackle in the league. Unfortunately that doesn’t help you read defenses and throw guys open with accuracy.

which is why their gameplan to not run the ball at all is so baffling

 

[need2know]

So if Dak convincingly beats Lamar in almost all catagories during arguably an MVP season then craps the bed in the playoffs, only to be said he should be cut, traded, etc.
What is being said about Lamar who basically gave this game away with overthrows and INT’s ? In Dallas, it was the Defense that gave up 45 points and made Love look like Rodgers. In Baltimore, the Defense held Mahomes to 17 points.
Hmmmm

My Dad is a Die Hard Ravens Fan. He's not happy, but to put into context, this is why Lamar kinda gets excused more and Dak does not.

How many All Pro Players did the Cowboys have and how many All Pro players did the Ravens have, outside of each QB? Didn't the Cowboys have 3 All Pro offensive lineman?

Just to compare a little

Dak weapons: All Pro WR CD Lamb, Pro Bowl TE Jake Ferguson, 3 All Pro Offensive lineman. A few role players at WR/RB.
Lamar Weapons: A Rookie WR, a backup tight end (although Andrews did play in the AFCCG), a few role players at WR/RB.

This in part is why Lamar gets MVP front runner status, and Dak kinda gets the Purdy treatment - "Cool stats, but who couldn't put up great stats with these weapons"

Anyway, carry on!

Lamar would have better weapons if he could hit the broad side of a barn. He’s AWFUL at quarterback.

He might be the hardest guy to tackle in the league. Unfortunately that doesn’t help you read defenses and throw guys open with accuracy.

I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying. Trade out Likely and Zay Flowers + offensive line for CD Lamb, Ferguson and 3 All Pro OL guys, I'm sure some statistics would change.

To me they are the same QB when the lights get bright in the playoffs though.

Lamar and Hurts are the same guy. I’d say Hurts is a better passer but not the same runner (even before last year)

I’ll never stop saying it. When these running guys face playoff defenses they look like deer in the headlights. To be fair it happens to more skilled passers (Like Dak,) too.


FTR/ I’m not suggesting Dak is a precision passer. (Rarely hits guys in stride).

hurts is already a better passer than lamar. he does have better weapons though and that helps

 

[Terpman22]

Classic Jerry. His team can't make it to the Super Bowl anymore, so he throws out a comment that he knows will get everyone talking the week before the Super Bowl. This is so predictable.

I mean Jerry literally said something "If they are talking about the Cowboys, we are doing things right, b/c thats what I want"

And everyone knows this. Selling tickets/merchandise and being talked about trumps winning it all/going on deep playoff runs.

What he fears the most is having a rebuild/down year. As long as they are OK, he is OK.

 

[Hastur]

Dan Quinn, you poor fool.

 

[Bankerguy]

Dan Quinn, you poor fool.

Jerruh Jones new DC. We got this.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Now trade Micah to Washington for BOATLOADS

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Riverboat Ron probly …

 

[Terpman22]

Dan Quinn, you poor fool.

Jerruh Jones new DC. We got this.

Here comes Riverboat Ron....

 

[General Malaise]

Did Quinn come under fire for the defensive effort (?) they had against Green Bay? I imagine the Hardline and the beat writers were less than kind, but I don't have my finger on the pulse of Dallas media anymore. That was.......something.

 

[Instinctive]

Ejiro Evero is out there right?

 

[Bankerguy]

Did Quinn come under fire for the defensive effort (?) they had against Green Bay? I imagine the Hardline and the beat writers were less than kind, but I don't have my finger on the pulse of Dallas media anymore. That was.......something.

He’s under fire for having no run defense and being completely predictable as we were in the Lion’s game. Cover Zero blitzes were obvious and over used.

4-2-5 just not cutting it.

Why was Parsons not moved around or played at LB.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Ejiro Evero is out there right?

Ejiro Evero Aiming To Leave Panthers?

Authoring one of the more interesting stretches by an assistant coach in recent NFL history, Ejiro Evero again has generated …

www.profootballrumors.com

 

[IHEARTFF]

Prescott and McCarthy could both be gone after the 2924 season.

I think we’ll all be gone then

 

[rockaction]

I think we’ll all be gone then

Fool! You have not heard of the elixir?

Fool!

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Prescott and McCarthy could both be gone after the 2924 season.

I think we’ll all be gone then

Except for Jerry Jones, I think he has his replacement robot body already planned.

 

[IHEARTFF]

I think we’ll all be gone then

Fool! You have not heard of the elixir?

Fool!

That’s kind of why I said think. It’s not 100% lock I guess.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Why do I get the impression that Bilichick is biding his time until McCarthy is fired?

 

[The Man With No Name]

Prescott and McCarthy could both be gone after the 2924 season.

I think we’ll all be gone then

Hahaha. Think I was on my phone for that one.

 

[Bankerguy]

Whitt also gone.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Aden Durde is the latest rumor

 

[Bankerguy]

Al Harris probably too.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Would Belichick even consider being a DC for a year and team up with Dallas, help them get over the hump and then line up his next HC gig?
I just don't see BB going to the studio and he's not getting hired as a Head Coach this year.

-The Pats were not that bad on defense, they just had no offense.
I doubt it could ever happen but JJ is capable of soothing people and I do appreciate that he is talking nice about BB and expressing an interest in making him part of the Cowboys.

I have a lot of issues with JJ and still think until he is no longer that Dallas has a ceiling to what they will achieve.
But if you could bring in BB in some capacity DC/Asst HC, I think it would make Dallas stronger.

I don't blame Jerry for dreaming

 

[Football Jones]

Why do I get the impression that Bilichick is biding his time until McCarthy is fired?

The Bill in '25 if we fall flat again.

 

[Football Jones]

Would Belichick even consider being a DC for a year and team up with Dallas, help them get over the hump and then line up his next HC gig?
I just don't see BB going to the studio and he's not getting hired as a Head Coach this year.

-The Pats were not that bad on defense, they just had no offense.
I doubt it could ever happen but JJ is capable of soothing people and I do appreciate that he is talking nice about BB and expressing an interest in making him part of the Cowboys.

I have a lot of issues with JJ and still think until he is no longer that Dallas has a ceiling to what they will achieve.
But if you could bring in BB in some capacity DC/Asst HC, I think it would make Dallas stronger.

I don't blame Jerry for dreaming

Jerry talked about Bill?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Would Belichick even consider being a DC for a year and team up with Dallas, help them get over the hump and then line up his next HC gig?
I just don't see BB going to the studio and he's not getting hired as a Head Coach this year.

-The Pats were not that bad on defense, they just had no offense.
I doubt it could ever happen but JJ is capable of soothing people and I do appreciate that he is talking nice about BB and expressing an interest in making him part of the Cowboys.

I have a lot of issues with JJ and still think until he is no longer that Dallas has a ceiling to what they will achieve.
But if you could bring in BB in some capacity DC/Asst HC, I think it would make Dallas stronger.

I don't blame Jerry for dreaming

Jerry talked about Bill?

"There's no doubt we could work together"
"None. None"

I thought that was what folks were eluding to about Jerry Jones wanting to steal the spotlight leading up the Super Bowl

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Would Belichick even consider being a DC for a year and team up with Dallas, help them get over the hump and then line up his next HC gig?

I could absolutely see that. BB wants to coach winning football. I could also see Jerruh bringing him in as a next-in-line if MM's act wears thin.

Or maybe BB takes a year off. Enjoys the fruits of his labor, then makes his valiant return. Not like there's ever a shortage of coaching vacancies.

 

[Football Jones]

Would Belichick even consider being a DC for a year and team up with Dallas, help them get over the hump and then line up his next HC gig?
I just don't see BB going to the studio and he's not getting hired as a Head Coach this year.

-The Pats were not that bad on defense, they just had no offense.
I doubt it could ever happen but JJ is capable of soothing people and I do appreciate that he is talking nice about BB and expressing an interest in making him part of the Cowboys.

I have a lot of issues with JJ and still think until he is no longer that Dallas has a ceiling to what they will achieve.
But if you could bring in BB in some capacity DC/Asst HC, I think it would make Dallas stronger.

I don't blame Jerry for dreaming

Jerry talked about Bill?

"There's no doubt we could work together"
"None. None"

I thought that was what folks were eluding to about Jerry Jones wanting to steal the spotlight leading up the Super Bowl

Gotcha. I didn't know he said that.

Interesting.

 

[dickey moe]

Prescott and McCarthy could both be gone after the 2924 season.

I think we’ll all be gone then

Yet Jerruh will remain alive.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Idk much about Ron as a DC, except he hasn’t been one for like 12 years

I’m hoping for some younger blood

 

[Football Jones]

Prescott and McCarthy could both be gone after the 2924 season.

I think we’ll all be gone then

Yet Jerruh will remain alive.

I wonder what the difference will be between Jerry and Stephen when that happens.

I think Stephen has more input than people realize. We owe him a debt of gratitude when he talked pops out of taking Johnny Football with the 16th overall pick in the 2014 draft (where we took Zach Martin).

Thanks, Stephen...

 

[Cowboysfan8]

think Stephen has more input than people realize

Will McClay too

 

[Football Jones]

think Stephen has more input than people realize

Will McClay too

For sure, especially the last 5 years or so.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Why was Parsons not moved around or played at LB

We were just outperformed, outschemed, however you want to put it,” Parsons said, via Pro Football Talk. “Like, they had an answer for everything. And people saying, ‘Well, why didn’t you go to linebacker? Because, you know, ‘They said you could stop the run.’ Well, guess what? The packages are in for me to go to linebacker. There’s multiple packages, multiple variations, but I can only play what is called. Whatever the call is, whatever personnel they’re putting on. I’m not putting out personnel. I’m not putting out the calls. Nothing’s coming from me, so you could put that wherever you want to be or wherever you want to put it, but they’re not coming from me.”

 

[Cowboysfan8]

https://twitter.com/MicahhParsons11/status/1752854715417731182?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752854715417731182%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

 

[Cowboysfan8]

https://twitter.com/MicahhParsons11/status/1737928507752157305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1737928507752157305%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

 

[Bankerguy]

I think at this point with Parson’s there are three options:

-Move him to more of a traditional LB spot
-Move our D to have more of a 3-4 look. (Yes, I know teams are in Nickel/Dime like 60% of the time).
-Trade him

 

[Terpman22]

I think at this point with Parson’s there are three options:

-Move him to more of a traditional LB spot
-Move our D to have more of a 3-4 look. (Yes, I know teams are in Nickel/Dime like 60% of the time).
-Trade him

Curious about this, considering the historic pass rushing numbers he has put up for his first 3 years, why would you ever want him as an off-ball LB?
Also, why would you trade him?

The 3-4 conversion seems more plausible. Plug Mazi in at NT, Lawrence could play a 3-4 end pretty easily. I do not think having the 210 lb guy as a MLB is a good idea though, so you would definitely need more LBs.

 

[babydemon90]

Idk much about Ron as a DC, except he hasn’t been one for like 12 years

I’m hoping for some younger blood

Sean desai is available...

 

[ffmail4me]

I think Washington should trade Ron to the cowboys for Parsons. Seems like a fair exchange.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Idk much about Ron as a DC, except he hasn’t been one for like 12 years

I’m hoping for some younger blood

Sean desai is available...

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Not understanding the desire to move on from Parsons but OK.