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Even if your nonsensical take were accurate, the incompetence would far outweigh the corruption in terms of results. So that's where we should focus first. Thanks for the drop in, enjoy revelling in the non-corrupt tax plan your team just passed.
So what reforms would you like to see?
Your post drives my point even further - you can continue to revel in your ignorance and/or obliviousness I guess. Let's not look inward for the corruption - it obviously has to be somebody else. It could never be my team!
You have no point, just inane chatter fed to you by corrupt politicians and media outlets that you mindlessly regurgitate. Voting yourself money on the backs of those who can least afford it is about as corrupt as it gets. Choosing one of the most corrupt people in modern public life to be the face and champion of your party is about as corrupt as it gets. You admit that and then we can talk about other peoples' ignorance and obliviousness - and how corrupt the party who opposed such things is. Until then, well, good luck trying to fix your party by ignoring the obvious.
You think the tax bill is only about giving back to people who earned it?
You can play the blame game if you want. I don't get much out of it and only dabble in the topic when shade is thrown at those of us way down the list in lieu of doing self reflection further up the list. That video is the exact sort of self reflection I think is necessary. She used "we" and "us" through most of her comments. She wasn't attempting to distance herself from the party in an effort to "scapegoat". She was bringing up what she saw as issues and instead of choosing to listen to her and do some genuine analysis of her words, you chose to attack the messenger and dismiss her outright. There were MONUMENTAL red flags that were ignored during the last election. I don't know if that was the DNC or Hillary herself, but it was sheer incompetence IMO. Is the party corrupt? Na....it's incredibly dysfunctional and incompetent for many reasons, some of which she points to in that video.The DNC is a convienant scapegoat. I blame people who voted for Trump for Trump's election first and foremost, not those of us who have been railing against Republicans for decades.Did you even watch the video linked? Between this comment and the one interpreting things at the 1:35 mark, I am having serious doubts. Instead of throwing yourself into attack the messenger mode, maybe you should think about listening to the actual words coming out of her mouth.
The message I hear from HF's clip is much closer to "DNC needs to get their #### together, get the budget under control and have stronger oversight of the money because they way it's been done in recent years hasn't worked and has lead us to Trump". But I don't have a "this is the way it's always been" narrative to defend either, so that might be part of it
At this point I'm in favor of getting rid of superdelegates and caucuses.
Superdelegates and caucuses? Those are the reforms that would help downticket races?At this point I'm in favor of getting rid of superdelegates and caucuses.
W/re to Donna Brazile, not sure which comments you're talking about. One day she suggests massive corruption, the next she says there was no such thing.
The DNC emails being hacked and made public are at odds with this "everyone is absolutely corrupt" theory.
That's not an exhaustive list, but yes, I believe those reforms would help downticket races.
If corruption was as rampent and absolute as you suggest, we would expect to see mountains of emails containing quid pro quos.
Wait. You think high level corruption is conducted over a set of emails? This current Presidency and administration aside, the pros actually know how this is done.
There are hundreds of people working for the DNC at any particular time. Not all of them are the 8 dimensional corruption experts that you're suggesting. If there were all of these supposed quid pro quo's happening, the DNC emails being hacked should have been a gold mine of evidence.
It’s my understanding that significant numbers of liberal voters are under the impression that superdelegates are part of a rigged process. While I disagree, if that perception keeps liberals from participating that’s a problem and hurts us at the ballot box.
So nothing about actually improving the candidates or exposure for downballot candidates or especially off year candidates, where Democrats get shellacked. Your big culprits are Presidential caucuses and superdelegates.
It is on triode local races that The Democratic Party may have, quite literally, lost control of this country's future.
This is a different focus than the "Democratic party is uniquely unbelievably corrupt" notion that was initially forwarded. I agree with you here - money in politics is one of the top 5 problems facing the U.S. From it stem so many other issues. If this is what @tosberg34 was getting at, I apologize for misunderstanding - I'm with you here.Sinn Fein said:
Okay. What’s the plan to help down ballot races, as we’ve been discussing for two days?
I am torn here.
We need to figure out how to apply the outreach/fund raising techniques the Obama and Sanders campaigns employed to the down ticket contests/candidates - without it becoming a nuisance to the constituents.
That's one way. As long as we're talking somewhat crazy, another way might be to eliminate the middle men. We have the technology (assuming we can solve the security/nonrepudiation issues, which I think can be done) to have direct democracy now. I think it might be time to try it. We're already suffering the bad effects of populism combined with the worst effects of kleptocracy via "representation". The main questions would be, do we still retain an executive, and if so, what's the check/balance on it if we eliminate the other federal level representatives?
Along these lines. You don't need consultants to manipulate social media. Those channels give you all the info on how their sites work.
Why would she care about what the DNC is doing?Gopher State said:
Don’t tell Tim.roadkill1292 said:
Perhaps Bernie could be of help here.Hilts said:
Opensecrets shows a different story. 2:1 ratio or better for both dem Senate and Congressional races.Hilts said:
Sure seems like the religious could rally behind “heal the sick”, “feed the hungry”, “clothe the naked”, and “shelter the homeless.”
Democrats are already labeled as commies which is more important to "religious" people than the actual teachings of the religions they claim to be so devoted to.
